Zone1 Asking Jesus a question

[ding]

Not enough the mind of shame and self loathing. You were raised wrong

Or tons of humility and honesty and I was raised right. You should be that humble and honest with yourself.

 

[Hafar1014]

Obviously you didn't understand what Jesus taught.

Jesus did not teach that human beings are not accountable. While Jesus emphasized grace and forgiveness, his teachings, along with the broader New Testament, strongly uphold personal accountability for actions, words, and stewardship of life to God. He taught that actions have consequences and that followers are accountable to God.

Jesus specifically warned that people will be held accountable on the day of judgment for every careless word they speak (Matthew 12:36-37). Parables, such as the talents (Matthew 25:14-30), indicate that followers are accountable for how they use their time, gifts, and resources. Scripture, including Jesus’ teaching on addressing sin within the church (Matthew 18:15-17), encourages mutual accountability to help believers grow in faith. While Christians are not under condemnation because of Christ, they still stand before the judgment seat of Christ to be accountable for their lives (2 Corinthians 5:10, 1 Corinthians 3:12-15).

How are they held accountable . They beleive in Jesus and they are free from sin. Thats not how life works. You harm someone and you make restitution and apologize to your victim. No brainer. Instead Jesus said Im forgiven so FU

 

[ding]

How are they held accountable .

By Jesus. He is fair and merciful judge.

They beleive in Jesus and they are free from sin. Thats not how life works.

I agree that's not how it works and that's not how Jesus said it works. What Jesus said is that we will be held accountable. I already explained that here.

You harm someone and you make restitution and apologize to your victim. No brainer. Instead Jesus said Im forgiven so FU

You will be held accountable by God. If you have made restitution and sought forgiveness for all of your transgressions, you have nothing to worry about.

 

[The Irish Ram]

Why do I have to go to hell when I choose not to believe in you

Because he paid for your sins and gave you His perfect record to enter Heaven with.
You choose Heaven or Hell. He already told you the results of your choice.

 

[1srelluc]

As one who lives somewhat near one of the coasts, it seems to me it is not the coast line that is the problem, it is metropolitan areas. When a party takes over a metropolitan area (or an entire state), those of other parties feel they have no voice at all. It seems there should be some way all can still be heard instead of majority rules and everyone else may as well shut up/give up.

I don't know, a sudden rise in ocean height would take care of a lot of dems.

NYC is only 33' above sea level.

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[The Irish Ram]

How are they held accountable . They beleive in Jesus and they are free from sin. Thats not how life works. You harm someone and you make restitution and apologize to your victim. No brainer. Instead Jesus said Im forgiven so FU

This is exactly how life works. You don't get off scot free. Here is what Jesus taught:

Matthew 5:23-24 “So if you are offering your gift at the altar and there remember that your brother has something against you, leave your gift there before the altar and go. First be reconciled to your brother, and then come and offer your gift. ​

Jesus said to make amends. That doesn't mean you get to escape earthly justice just because Christ's forgives our acts.
A death row inmate may accept Christ as his Savior. He is still going to fry. Then God will lift him up and make him whole for Christ's sake.

 

[Meriweather]

ding: why are you not enough for me?
Jesus: Because you only think you love me.
ding: ouch.

Yes. Wistfulness is wanting to love to the extent God loves. If I could have only one impossible thing, it would be to love as God loves.

 

[Meriweather]

Your not accountable you can sin all you want believe in Jesus and bang zoom your forgiven. Thats not accountable. A mythical god cant judge me so IM not afraid of what doesnt exist

Jesus taught repentance (complete change of heart) for the forgiveness of sins. When one believes in Jesus and his Way, one has a complete change of heart--and it is only Jesus who can rightly judge the human heart.

To "sin all you want" is not a complete change of heart. Again, I beg you. Forget all you think you know about Christianity and accept that your "knowledge" has not yet even met the amount that is an iota. When it comes to Christianity, trust me, it's best you remain silent.

 

[luiza]

If Jesus were here on earth, and you had a chance to ask him a question, what would you ask him that might clarify (or verify) one of his teachings or another biblical verse?

ETA: If you are not a believer: Could you explain to him why.

Jesus the Essene died from natural causes around AD 60 .
So I would say to this fraud
Meriweather , why are you pretending to be the Essene , Jesus ?

 

[BreezeWood]

If Jesus were here on earth, and you had a chance to ask him a question, what would you ask him that might clarify (or verify) one of his teachings or another biblical verse?

ETA: If you are not a believer: Could you explain to him why.

they are not here and knew their fate from the beginning, simply hopeful the repeated crucifixions over the centuries will someday be put to an end and the crucifiers brought to justice as sadly their true companions are few in number.

 

[frigidweirdo]

If Jesus were here on earth, and you had a chance to ask him a question, what would you ask him that might clarify (or verify) one of his teachings or another biblical verse?

ETA: If you are not a believer: Could you explain to him why.

Did you prefer playing for Man City or Arsenal.

 

[BreezeWood]

Because he paid for your sins and gave you His perfect record to enter Heaven with.

you have your claim in the writings by jesus himself ... or just the unverified 4th century christian bible of popular convenience.

- not true whatsoever, they would have brought true justice given enough time and not have been murdered during their time trying to do so.

 

[ding]

they are not here and knew their fate from the beginning, simply hopeful the repeated crucifixions over the centuries will someday be put to an end and the crucifiers brought to justice as sadly their true companions are few in number.

Are you suggesting there are rules to follow? Because in another thread you claimed the heavens gave us no rules.

Or are you suggesting that humans are left to decide the rules to follow? Because it has to be one or the other for you to express your opinion that "crucifiers [be] brought to justice." You can't have it both ways. Unless of course you are arguing that you are the sole arbiter of what is good, just and fair.

 

[ding]

they would have brought true justice given enough time and not have been murdered during their time trying to do so.

How do you know that?

 

[Meriweather]

How are they held accountable . They beleive in Jesus and they are free from sin. Thats not how life works. You harm someone and you make restitution and apologize to your victim. No brainer. Instead Jesus said Im forgiven so FU

I wish you understood this better. If you would read and understand the Gospels, you would note that people were used to have others asking them for forgiveness, therefore, they, too, would be part of a society that asks for forgiveness. The question arose of, Well, how many times do I forgive someone? The answer? Every time. At his death, Jesus gave an example of forgiving people without anyone asking for forgiveness.

God is love, and any sin against love is a sin against God as well. It is well done that you ask someone you sinned against for forgiveness as well as make restitution. One and done. Christians go the extra step of seeking God's forgiveness for the sin against him. Since the sin was against him, only God can forgive that sin--and he assures us he does. We have a change of heart regarding what we have done and we ask his forgiveness as well as his help for the strength to do better. Restitution, too. Jesus told a parable of someone who cleared out all the demons (sinful acts) and all was empty. However, the demons/sin saw an empty place and came back even stronger. Jesus taught we have to replace what we got rid of with better acts, thoughts, and goodness.

In Christianity sin can be described as, God, I know what you want. I don't care. I'll do what I want.

Hafar1014: You don't know Christianity well enough to reject it. Nor do you know it well enough to accept it.

 

[Meriweather]

Jesus the Essene died from natural causes around AD 60 .
So I would say to this fraud
Meriweather , why are you pretending to be the Essene , Jesus ?

How am I pretending to be someone I have no knowledge of?

 

[Hafar1014]

I wish you understood this better. If you would read and understand the Gospels, you would note that people were used to have others asking them for forgiveness, therefore, they, too, would be part of a society that asks for forgiveness. The question arose of, Well, how many times do I forgive someone? The answer? Every time. At his death, Jesus gave an example of forgiving people without anyone asking for forgiveness.

God is love, and any sin against love is a sin against God as well. It is well done that you ask someone you sinned against for forgiveness as well as make restitution. One and done. Christians go the extra step of seeking God's forgiveness for the sin against him. Since the sin was against him, only God can forgive that sin--and he assures us he does. We have a change of heart regarding what we have done and we ask his forgiveness as well as his help for the strength to do better. Restitution, too. Jesus told a parable of someone who cleared out all the demons (sinful acts) and all was empty. However, the demons/sin saw an empty place and came back even stronger. Jesus taught we have to replace what we got rid of with better acts, thoughts, and goodness.

In Christianity sin can be described as, God, I know what you want. I don't care. I'll do what I want.

Hafar1014: You don't know Christianity well enough to reject it. Nor do you know it well enough to accept it.

You can love evil and not know it or be misguided. Sin is when you harm another with intent. No God can forgive that or should forgive that. That would be supporting the sinner. Christianity is really screwed up.
How is God ove? If you dont believe in Jesus you burn in hell...but he loves you

 

[Meriweather]

You can love evil and not know it or be misguided. Sin is when you harm another with intent. No God can forgive that or should forgive that. That would be supporting the sinner. Christianity is really screwed up.
How is God ove? If you dont believe in Jesus you burn in hell...but he loves you

All who have had an experience of God know that without any doubt at all that God is love--meaning his love surrounds all. When it comes to us, his creation with free will, we have a choice: I want to learn to love like that....or, I am not at all interested in loving like that.

Jesus is The Word of God. Those who believe the Word of God are not rejecting Jesus. That would be like my daughters saying, I reject Meriweather, but I accept Mom, when I'm one and the same.

It's not Christianity that is screwed up, but your understanding of it. As I told you in the earlier post: You don't know Christianity well enough to either reject or accept it. You are right to reject your own conclusions about Christianity.

 

[Hafar1014]

All who have had an experience of God know that without any doubt at all that God is love--meaning his love surrounds all. When it comes to us, his creation with free will, we have a choice: I want to learn to love like that....or, I am not at all interested in loving like that.

Jesus is The Word of God. Those who believe the Word of God are not rejecting Jesus. That would be like my daughters saying, I reject Meriweather, but I accept Mom, when it's one and the same.

It's not Christianity that is screwed up, but your understanding of it. As I told you in the earlier post: You don't know Christianity well enough to either reject or accept it. You are right to reject your own conclusions about Christianity.

Historical Christian atrocities often stemmed from religious fervor intertwined with political power, leading to centuries of warfare, persecution, and systemic violence.
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Examples of Christian love in history
Major Religious Conflicts

• The Crusades (1096–1272): Campaigns to retake the Holy Land resulted in millions of deaths. During the First Crusade, Christian forces slaughtered nearly all inhabitants of Jerusalem. The Fourth Crusade saw the brutal Sack of Constantinople in 1204, where Catholic crusaders murdered and plundered fellow Christians.
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• Albigensian Crusade (1209–1229): A campaign ordered by Pope Innocent III to eliminate the Cathar sect in France, leading to between 200,000 and 1 million deaths.
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• French Wars of Religion (1562–1598): Conflicts between Catholics and Huguenots (Protestants) caused an estimated 3 million deaths. This included the St. Bartholomew’s Day Massacre in 1572, where 5,000 to 30,000 Huguenots were murdered.
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• Thirty Years' War (1618–1648): One of the deadliest religious wars in European history, resulting in roughly 7.5 million deaths.
  Andrew Holt, Ph.D.

Institutional Persecution

• The Inquisition (12th–19th centuries): Tribunals used to enforce orthodoxy through torture and execution. The Spanish Inquisition alone saw approximately 150,000 prosecutions and 3,000–5,000 executions, often by burning at the stake.
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• Witch Hunts (15th–18th centuries): Church-endorsed doctrines led to the trial of 100,000 people and the execution of 40,000–60,000, primarily women.
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• Anti-Semitic Persecution: Centuries of Church-sanctioned restrictions, forced conversions, and pogroms created a foundation of demonization that contributed to later atrocities, including the Holocaust.
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Colonialism and Systemic Abuse

• Colonization of the Americas: Conquistadors used Christian "discovery" as justification for the slaughter and enslavement of indigenous peoples, contributing to millions of deaths.
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• The Atlantic Slave Trade: Many Christian clerics and denominations used biblical interpretations to justify the enslavement of roughly 12 million Africans.
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• Residential Schools: In Canada and elsewhere, church-run institutions forced indigenous children into assimilation, leading to widespread physical and sexual abuse, and many thousands of deaths.
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Historical Context: While many of these acts were carried out in the name of God, they frequently aligned with imperial expansion and the hoarding of wealth and political power.
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[BreezeWood]

If you dont believe in Jesus you burn in hell...but he loves you

superimposed - believe in christianity ...

it's only because of their bible there is the knowledge of their individual, jesus they superimpose over the true events of the 1st century to choreograph christianities madeup religion bearing nothing of those events that culminated in the 70ce vindication, physical repudiation of judaism being those events true conclusion after the crucifixion of the true heavenly jesus.

buried by the christian bible - the liberation theology, self determination those events represented and those who gave their lives for the true heavenly cause and the repudiation of judaism, their false commandments.