As the collapse continues....

[j-mac]

One person, empowered by his enablers and sycophants, has managed to (a) throw the world economy into chaos with his bizarre, wildly erratic tariff gambit, (b) throw global geopolitics into a tailspin with his soft-handed approach to an aggressive Russian tyrant and pugilistic behaviors towards America's former friends, and (c) put America itself on the edge of social collapse by openly taking sides in its most sensitive sociological/cultural moment in decades, and (d) inspire one of the great religions of the world to sell its soul to a person who is essentially the opposite of the deity it claims to follow.

One person has created a chaos most of us have never seen, because he has been allowed to.

That's because this has never been about that one person. This is about a country that is so sick and manipulable that it has allowed its priorities to become entirely perverted. Bad enough that this would happen to ANY country. But the most important, dynamic country in the world? It's still a little difficult to digest.

As this collapse continues, does anyone have any guesses as to what this country looks like in 20 years?

Chaos Theory Meets Trump: Why America’s Institutions and Psyche Are Under Siege

If left to people like you one would think Idiocracy, or Animal Farm comes to mind.

 

[Mac1958]

What they don't understand, what they'll never understand, is that this is not about Trump, and never has been.

I've said it a hundred times over these years, and I specifically discussed it in the OP.

I think that, at some level, they may know. But they have not been provided a response.

 

[Hafar1014]

Well, there you go again, repeating that falsehood.

This I time you are clearly lying, since you were already shown that overall taxes went up due to Trump's inflationary import taxes.

Small tax-cuts on tips and child credit do not get anywhere near the tariffs volume.


Will you continue to lie about this?

Inflation is stable wages are up more than inflation taxes have been cut middle class spending power is up after Biden crushed it with 9% inflation and 5.00 a gallon gas.

Most of the tax cuts passed under the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA) were made permanent by the "One Big Beautiful Bill Act," signed by President Donald Trump on July 4, 2025. The 2025 law also introduced new, temporary tax deductions for individuals.
New tax provisions under the 2025 "One Big Beautiful Bill Act"
These new tax breaks took effect for the 2025 tax year and are set to expire at the end of 2028.

• "No Tax on Tips" deduction: Employees who receive tips can deduct up to $25,000 per year from their federal taxable income. Income limits apply, and the maximum deduction is lower for self-employed individuals.
• "No Tax on Overtime" deduction: A deduction of up to $12,500 ($25,000 for joint filers) is available for qualified overtime pay. It phases out for higher earners.
• Auto loan interest deduction: Taxpayers can deduct up to $10,000 in annual interest on a loan for a new U.S.-assembled vehicle. The deduction has income limits and does not apply to leased vehicles.
• Bonus deduction for seniors: Taxpayers aged 65 and older can claim an additional deduction of up to $6,000 ($12,000 for qualifying joint filers). The deduction phases out for higher earners.
• Child savings accounts: A $1,000 deposit into a new tax-deferred "Trump Savings Account" is available for children born between 2025 and 2028. Total annual contributions to the account are capped at $5,000 per year.

Provisions made permanent by the 2025 law
The 2025 legislation permanently extended most of the changes from the 2017 TCJA that were scheduled to expire at the end of 2025.

• Individual income tax rates: The current seven tax brackets (10%, 12%, 22%, 24%, 32%, 35%, and 37%) were made permanent, preventing a reversion to higher pre-2018 rates.
• Standard deduction: The higher standard deduction, nearly doubled by the 2017 law, was made permanent. For the 2025 tax year, it increased to $15,750 for single filers and $31,500 for married couples filing jointly.
• Child Tax Credit (CTC): The bill made the $2,200 per-child credit permanent and requires a Social Security number to claim. The refundable portion was not significantly increased.
• Alternative Minimum Tax (AMT): The higher exemption levels and phase-out thresholds from the 2017 law were made permanent.
• Estate and gift tax exemption: The federal exemption for estate and gift taxes was permanently raised to $15 million per person, adjusted for inflation, for 2026 and beyond.
• Corporate tax rate: The 21% corporate tax rate, which was made permanent by the 2017 law, remains unchanged.

 

[AntonToo]

As this collapse continues, does anyone have any guesses as to what this country looks like in 20 years?

It looks great because Trump went down in history as just about the worst president we've had and America learned to not elect degenerate snake oil salesmen.

I know it's hard to see from here, but such is faith in this great country's ability to get though, learn and move on.

 

[Hafar1014]

It looks great because Trump went down in history as just about the worst president we've had and America learned to not elect degenerate snake oil salesmen.

I know it's hard to see from here, but such is faith in this great country's ability to get though, learn and move on.

Thats what we did when he got rid of Biden and Harris. Now everything is better in just 8 months.

 

[wamose]

All this statement does is stamp you as a bonifide hardcore rightwing Republican MAGA partisan, that's all.

Every American who cares about the future of our country is stamped the same way. I'm surprised you can't see the massive improvements brought about by Trump and his MAGA Republicans. At this point, the return of Democrat rule would probably be the end of our free country.

 

[AntonToo]

Inflation is stable wages are up more than inflation taxes ...

I don't need your deflections and copying and pasting that doesn't refute a single word of what I've said.

Again, what I said was that the import taxes volume (1 trillion over 10 years) was way more than new tax-cuts in BBB.

Nothing you've said refuted that. The only thing that WOULD refute you is you somehow showing that new tax-cuts are larger than tariffs.

 

[SweetTea]

I point out four specifics, they deflect and scream TDS.

That's the conditioning.

You didn’t point out any valid specifics, just liberal, unfounded, TDS talking points.

 

[Hafar1014]

I don't need your deflections and copying and pasting that doesn't refute a single word of what I've said.

Again, what I said was that the import taxes volume (1 trillion over 10 years) was way more than new tax-cuts in BBB. Nothing you've said refuted that.

The facts dont support your biased opinion. In every aspect of life we are better off now that a senile incompetents Biden was removed and Harris got destroyed in the worst defeat in history.
Tariffs are bringing in 1 trillion a month enough to eliminate the deficit in 2 years. Prices have not gone up wages have and taxes cut which means the middle class has more money. Biden crushed their spending power. Trump increased middle class wealth. Democrats destroyed it

 

[BothWings]

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What makes you think the this country, and the world, were not in a freefall collapse on a apocalyptic scale for the last couple of decades prior to now?

CHUCKLE

That's a pretty good one since Tom played a voice of reason in an apocalyptic movie himself. (The Postman)

 

[Manonthestreet]

G...daamn i shoulda voted for Kammie.....

 

[Harry Dresden]

No you didn't, Democrats pushed Biden to step down and replaced him with Harris.

why didnt they let us know what was happening?..why didnt biden,our "leader" come forward and tell us whats happening?..why didnt no 2 harris come forward and tell us?...she knew and yet said nothing....thats not leadership....there is a reason the dems have such great approval ratings.....

 

[1srelluc]

Meh, I'm doing just fine.

The dem shill's world is coming apart at the seams so he has to gaslight to cope.

 

[kyzr]

It looks great because Trump went down in history as just about the worst president we've had and America learned to not elect degenerate snake oil salesmen.
I know it's hard to see from here, but such is faith in this great country's ability to get though, learn and move on.

We just did that after Joe Biden's disastrous 4-years. We're now enjoying a real president...

 

[Anathema]

As this collapse continues, does anyone have any guesses as to what this country looks like in 20 years?

Guesses, no. Hopes, yes… A far Right-Wing Authoritarian regime where Nationalism, Isolationism and an English-ONLY policy have driven the leftist nuts back to Europe where they belong as our reinvigorated Bacy and Air Firce enforce a total ban on outside influence.

 

[Hafar1014]

Guesses, no. Hopes, yes… A far Right-Wing Authoritarian regime where Nationalism, Isolationism and an English-ONLY policy have driven the leftist nuts back to Europe where they belong as our reinvigorated Bacy and Air Firce enforce a total ban on outside influence.

Trump cuts taxes spending regulations and the power of government. Thats the reverse of an authoritarian.
Democrats increase taxes regulations and expand the power of government inserting it it into our private lives. Thats authoritarian. They are also violent. So which party is authoritarian again.
4 years of Biden caused a massive expansion of government power which created the worst inflation in 40 years. The open border brought in thousands of criminals. Insane policies that advocated gender absurdity by a severely senile Biden and his incompetent VP Harris who cant articulate thought created the worst administration in our lifetime.

2.1 million voters switched parties millions have left democrat states and moved to GOP states. The 2030 census will take over 10 seats in the house away form democrats and will give them to the GOP

 

[Hafar1014]

It looks great because Trump went down in history as just about the worst president we've had and America learned to not elect degenerate snake oil salesmen.

I know it's hard to see from here, but such is faith in this great country's ability to get though, learn and move on.

Trump cuts taxes spending regulations and the power of government. Thats the reverse of an authoritarian.
Democrats increase taxes regulations and expand the power of government inserting it it into our private lives. Thats authoritarian. They are also violent. So which party is authoritarian again.
4 years of Biden caused a massive expansion of government power which created the worst inflation in 40 years. The open border brought in thousands of criminals. Insane policies that advocated gender absurdity by a severely senile Biden and his incompetent VP Harris who cant articulate thought created the worst administration in our lifetime.

2.1 million voters switched parties millions have left democrat states and moved to GOP states. The 2030 census will take over 10 seats in the house away form democrats and will give them to the GOP
We have moved on and left you behind

 

[sparky]

The world collapsed a long time ago when the democrap party stopped caring about the working class and sold their souls to the uber wealthy globalists.

I point out four specifics

specific (a) then Mac, which your OP link went off on.......

it was the D's who legislated nafta

nafta was essentially a trade agreement

said agreement took time to have an effect......

said effects were a stark disparity ,mostly in the globalists coffers , which the D's now lament as oligarchs ......

manufacturing rusted, we slowly became a consumer nation vs a producer , along with the ensuing inflation

the crash happened a decade later , with quantitative easing being the RX for the disease the D's created

It's the D's who created the tariff war, 20 years ago Ross Perot (along with anyone with the brains God gave geese) easily saw through.......Now that we've a potus focused on the root problem , 20 years from now can only be better

~S~

 

[Harry Dresden]

Guesses, no. Hopes, yes… A far Right-Wing Authoritarian regime where Nationalism, Isolationism and an English-ONLY policy have driven the leftist nuts back to Europe where they belong as our reinvigorated Bacy and Air Firce enforce a total ban on outside influence.

ol....geezus...

 

[Nostra]

One person, empowered by his enablers and sycophants, has managed to (a) throw the world economy into chaos with his bizarre, wildly erratic tariff gambit, (b) throw global geopolitics into a tailspin with his soft-handed approach to an aggressive Russian tyrant and pugilistic behaviors towards America's former friends, and (c) put America itself on the edge of social collapse by openly taking sides in its most sensitive sociological/cultural moment in decades, and (d) inspire one of the great religions of the world to sell its soul to a person who is essentially the opposite of the deity it claims to follow.

One person has created a chaos most of us have never seen, because he has been allowed to.

That's because this has never been about that one person. This is about a country that is so sick and manipulable that it has allowed its priorities to become entirely perverted. Bad enough that this would happen to ANY country. But the most important, dynamic country in the world? It's still a little difficult to digest.

As this collapse continues, does anyone have any guesses as to what this country looks like in 20 years?

Chaos Theory Meets Trump: Why America’s Institutions and Psyche Are Under Siege

Link to this collapse?