US vs Iran Dilemma: Who to believe. Who has more credibility?

[Dante]

We first looked at posting this on the Politics Board, then on the Military Board, then The Iran Board, and then On further thought - after writing out much of this post, We decided to settle on the Politics Board (Discuss politics, government policies and candidates). This is about so much more than just what it may present itself as on first look.

We in the American public, as well as those all over the world are stuck with a US vs Iran Dilemma: Who to believe. Who has more credibility? It's pathetic that we come to this, but back in 2016 Jeb Bush warned us all: "Chaos Candidate...Chaos President" - truer words were never spoken.

Las Vegas —
Jeb Bush just gave the political equivalent of an “I told you so” to President Donald Trump.

“When I ran for office, I said he is a chaos candidate and would be a chaos president,” Bush said on Friday.

“Unfortunately, so far chaos organizes the presidency right now,” he said, speaking at the annual SALT hedge fund conference, which is headlined by bigwigs from the world of politics, finance, sports and entertainment.

Bush said it appears the Trump administration is “living in the tyranny of the moment” instead of “executing on a clear agenda.”

The latest issue (one in a long list) is this

Iran’s Fars Media reported that a Navy vessel in the southeast sector of the strait was struck for “violating maritime security and navigation norms” and that the ship turned around after being hit. One Iranian official told the BBC that there was one warning shot but could not confirm if there was damage.

U.S. Central Command is denying any reports of serious damage.

U.S. military denies Iran's claim it struck American warship in Strait of Hormuz

Iran has blocked tanker traffic through the Strait of Hormuz since the U.S. and Israel started the war in late February, resulting in supply and price shocks.

www.cnbc.com

Which is it? The Trump administration has lost all credibility with the US public and with the public and Leaders around the world -- mostly allies. This Bull-in-a-China-Shop routine has damaged relations that will take a few presidencies to repair -- if possible. Things will never be the same. No going back.

We've reached a point where the US looks like the Baghdad Bob of International Relations. Thank you Donald J. Trump.

We can't even imitate former President Ronald Reagan, when he said "Trust, but verify" (doveryai, no proveryai - Russian proverb). There is little to no trust when dealing with the Trump administration.

 

[cnm]

I'd like to see the actual language.

U.S. Central Command is denying any reports of serious damage.

 

[Gabe Lackmann]

Trump's huge FU will eventually lead to a global economic crisis and worldwide famine.

The longer oil remains above $100...

 

[IM2]

Both sides are equally bad. It's a sad day when we tut ur preient just as much as we trust Ianian leaders.

 

[Independent thinker]

We first looked at posting this on the Politics Board, then on the Military Board, then The Iran Board, and then On further thought - after writing out much of this post, We decided to settle on the Politics Board (Discuss politics, government policies and candidates). This is about so much more than just what it may present itself as on first look.

We in the American public, as well as those all over the world are stuck with a US vs Iran Dilemma: Who to believe. Who has more credibility? It's pathetic that we come to this, but back in 2016 Jeb Bush warned us all: "Chaos Candidate...Chaos President" - truer words were never spoken.



The latest issue (one in a long list) is this

Which is it? The Trump administration has lost all credibility with the US public and with the public and Leaders around the world -- mostly allies. This Bull-in-a-China-Shop routine has damaged relations that will take a few presidencies to repair -- if possible. Things will never be the same. No going back.

We've reached a point where the US looks like the Baghdad Bob of International Relations. Thank you Donald J. Trump.

We can't even imitate former President Ronald Reagan, when he said "Trust, but verify" (doveryai, no proveryai - Russian proverb). There is little to no trust when dealing with the Trump administration.

Iran has repeatedly lied about just about everything. That's common knowledge.

 

[Dante]

I'd like to see the actual language.

Actual language in the news report? U.S. Central Command is denying any reports of serious damage.

 

[Dante]

Iran has repeatedly lied about just about everything. That's common knowledge.

For most of his sorry-arsed life, Donald J. Trump has repeatedly lied about just about everything. That's common knowledge.

That's the point.

 

[rightwinger]

The overwhelming majority of Americans support no more senseless wars

 

[The Duke]

The overwhelming majority of Americans support no more senseless wars

It's time to take it to the mullahs and their henchman that rape and murder.

 

[HikerGuy83]

We first looked at posting this on the Politics Board, then on the Military Board, then The Iran Board, and then On further thought - after writing out much of this post, We decided to settle on the Politics Board (Discuss politics, government policies and candidates). This is about so much more than just what it may present itself as on first look.

We in the American public, as well as those all over the world are stuck with a US vs Iran Dilemma: Who to believe. Who has more credibility? It's pathetic that we come to this, but back in 2016 Jeb Bush warned us all: "Chaos Candidate...Chaos President" - truer words were never spoken.



The latest issue (one in a long list) is this

Which is it? The Trump administration has lost all credibility with the US public and with the public and Leaders around the world -- mostly allies. This Bull-in-a-China-Shop routine has damaged relations that will take a few presidencies to repair -- if possible. Things will never be the same. No going back.

We've reached a point where the US looks like the Baghdad Bob of International Relations. Thank you Donald J. Trump.

We can't even imitate former President Ronald Reagan, when he said "Trust, but verify" (doveryai, no proveryai - Russian proverb). There is little to no trust when dealing with the Trump administration.

Why post when you really don't care about an answer.

Another failed thread by the king of failed threads, Dante.

 

[HikerGuy83]

For most of his sorry-arsed life, Donald J. Trump has repeatedly lied about just about everything. That's common knowledge.

That's the point.

And you apparently were taught from the same text book he was.

 

[Mac1958]

We first looked at posting this on the Politics Board, then on the Military Board, then The Iran Board, and then

Neither has any credibility now. Looking at overseas commentary, our former friends don't know what to believe, either.

We just need to wait for verified proof on anything now. What we do know is that we're looking right in the face of a global oil shock, and that America has completely lost its standing in the world. If this doesn't resolve itself somehow, don't be surprised to see our former friends cutting deals with Iran like they are with China.

 

[rightwinger]

It's time to take it to the mullahs and their henchman that rape and murder.

Not my problem
There are bad people all over the world

 

[The Duke]

Neither has any credibility now. Looking at overseas commentary, our former friends don't know what to believe, either.

We just need to wait for verified proof on anything now. What we do know is that we're looking right in the face of a global oil shock, and that America has completely lost its standing in the world. If this doesn't resolve itself somehow, don't be surprised to see our former friends cutting deals with Iran like they are with China.

Nobody's going to be cutting deals with Iran right now, retard.
That's the point. They are blockaded by the best Navy on this earth.
If your head didn't come to a point, you might would realize that.
To further iterate my point: The Navy is just one of the branches of American Armed Forces.
No nation on this planet knows how to war like America. 2nd place isn't even 50% of ours.
You have no credibility.

 

[Lockback]

The overwhelming majority of Americans support no more senseless wars

Who says that preventing a psycho regime from acquiring nuclear weapons is "senseless"?

 

[Correll]

We first looked at posting this on the Politics Board, then on the Military Board, then The Iran Board, and then On further thought - after writing out much of this post, We decided to settle on the Politics Board (Discuss politics, government policies and candidates). This is about so much more than just what it may present itself as on first look.

We in the American public, as well as those all over the world are stuck with a US vs Iran Dilemma: Who to believe. Who has more credibility? It's pathetic that we come to this, but back in 2016 Jeb Bush warned us all: "Chaos Candidate...Chaos President" - truer words were never spoken.



The latest issue (one in a long list) is this

Which is it? The Trump administration has lost all credibility with the US public and with the public and Leaders around the world -- mostly allies. This Bull-in-a-China-Shop routine has damaged relations that will take a few presidencies to repair -- if possible. Things will never be the same. No going back.

We've reached a point where the US looks like the Baghdad Bob of International Relations. Thank you Donald J. Trump.

We can't even imitate former President Ronald Reagan, when he said "Trust, but verify" (doveryai, no proveryai - Russian proverb). There is little to no trust when dealing with the Trump administration.

I don't understand the concern.


Iran wants a nuke. They have closed the straits, causing world wide economic harm to billions of people.


Do you support that?

That seems to be the question that matters.


How cares about teh details?

 

[rightwinger]

Who says that preventing a psycho regime from acquiring nuclear weapons is "senseless"?

People who have heard justifications due to “psycho regimes” for 70 years

 

[The Duke]

Not my problem
There are bad people all over the world

Nah, them assholes have been poking us for close to 50 years.
How many of our good boys got blown up by roadside IEDS in Iraq? Iran did that.

 

[rightwinger]

Nah, them assholes have been poking us for close to 50 years.
How many of our good boys got blown up by roadside IEDS in Iraq? Iran did that.

They called us names?
Need a better justification than that

 

[The Duke]

I don't understand the concern.


Iran wants a nuke. They have closed the straits, causing world wide economic harm to billions of people.


Do you support that?

That seems to be the question that matters.


How cares about teh details?

America's about to open it up, to everyone except Iran. Today or tomorrow.