Are You REAL ID Ready?

[Superbadbrutha]

Acceptable Identification at the TSA Checkpoint | Transportation Security Administration

The TSA Identification Requirements page outlines acceptable forms of ID for travelers at airport security checkpoints.

www.tsa.gov

What have folks been using in the past that wasn't REAL ID?

 

[debbiedowner]

We're not talking about "real" IDs that are necessary for getting a driver's license, like a birth certificate, passport, etc. We're talking about a specific ID called the "REAL ID" that requires you to submit additional information to the government, and they're saying is going to be required for flying domestically, starting May 7.

So this is a specific ID called the "REAL ID"... And last time I got my driver's license, I didn't have to provide that, and obviously I couldn't have provided it since I don't have one, yet I was still able to get a driver's license.

It has a gold star on the front and back of my FL driver's license and down here they implemented it a few years back.

 

[Leo123]

So you're OK with jumping through an increasing amount of hoops, in order to fly or enter a Federal building, just because you bought the pretext that has been sold to you?

I think the problem is you don't see the trajectory we're on. You don't see where this is all heading.

As I mentioned to someone else earlier on the thread, these problems or "crises" are manufactured, to be used as a pretext for more control, more surveillance, and more authoritarian agendas.

You don't believe that now, because you trust the current government. Maybe once the wrong people get back in power, you'll be a little bit more vigilant and not so willing to trade liberty for "security." That has been the trick used against us for decades. It's precisely what the founders warned us against.

Yeah too bad we have to jump through those hoops when people like you who believed fence hoppers should get a DL and that they should come here by the millions over our unguarded border during Democrat 'rule.'

We are on the trajectory for America being more independent with manufacturing and bringing back that industry to America instead of the 'trick' of farming it out to places like China who use slave and child labor to make cheap shit that floods our markets.

 

[buttercup]

Yeah too bad we have to jump through those hoops when people like you who believed fence hoppers should get a DL and that they should come here by the millions over our unguarded border during Democrat 'rule.'

We are on the trajectory for America being more independent with manufacturing and bringing back that industry to America instead of the 'trick' of farming it out to places like China who use slave and child labor to make cheap shit that floods our markets.

That's a big fat blatant LIE. I'm not a Democrat, Einstein. I'm against more big government and more restrictions and all of their Orwellian agendas. I'm 1000% AGAINST illegals being allowed to get a DL.

So don't EVER put words in my mouth, or ASSume things that are so blatantly false, they're laughable.

 

[Leo123]

That's a big fat blatant LIE. I'm not a Democrat, Einstein. I'm against more big government and more restrictions and all of their Orwellian agendas. I'm 1000% AGAINST illegals being allowed to get a DL.

So don't EVER put words in my mouth, or ASSume things that are so blatantly false, they're laughable.

OK, good you're against illegals getting DLs but, they are getting them and the reason why is the LIFTING of certain restrictions.

 

[buttercup]

I have no interest in Real ID. I think it is a joke. It implies that there is something wrong with or inadequate about the government's regular ID, and if so, that is their fault and their problem.

Yep. The problem is, if people never object to any of these types of acts, it becomes the frog in boiling water scenario. The changes happen so slowly that most people don't notice, or it becomes normalized. Until it gets to the point where it's too late to say "wait a minute.... this is too much."

 

[buttercup]

OK, good you're against illegals getting DLs but, they are getting them and the reason why is the LIFTING of certain restrictions.

I may not be able to prove this, but as I said earlier on the thread, I think the immigration problem has been used specifically as a Trojan horse for bringing in agendas that people would otherwise object to.

I don't believe that security should come at the expense of liberty.

 

[Leo123]

I may not be able to prove this, but as I said earlier on the thread, I think the immigration problem has been used specifically as a Trojan horse for bringing in agendas that people would otherwise object to.

I don't believe that security should come at the expense of liberty.

How is Real ID a threat to your liberty? We now have millions of illegal aliens residing in our country thanks to Biden. Do you really want illegal aliens using a DL to claim they are legal? Sometimes security requires action on your part you know.

 

[sparky]

This'll all be easier when the gub'mit puts microchips in our heads......

~S~

 

[Leo123]

I have no interest in Real ID. I think it is a joke. It implies that there is something wrong with or inadequate about the government's regular ID, and if so, that is their fault and their problem.

When States issue DLs to illegals they are undermining our ID system.

 

[Foxfyre]

So you're OK with jumping through an increasing amount of hoops, in order to fly or enter a Federal building, just because you bought the pretext that has been sold to you?

I think the problem is you don't see the trajectory we're on. You don't see where this is all heading.

As I mentioned to someone else earlier on the thread, these problems or "crises" are manufactured, to be used as a pretext for more control, more surveillance, and more authoritarian agendas.

You don't believe that now, because you trust the current government. Maybe once the wrong people get back in power, you'll be a little bit more vigilant and not so willing to trade liberty for "security." That has been the trick used against us for decades. It's precisely what the founders warned us against.

I have been jumping through hoops to enter federal buildings and our county courthouse for decades now. It is essential for protection of those who work there and also for some doing business there. I am 100% A-okay, approving of, strongly supportive of having to prove that I am me, I am a citizen, I am at least 18, and I live at a reasonably permanent verifiable address in order to register to vote.

I am 100% A-okay, approving of, strongly supportive of having to provide a valid, verifiable photo ID to vote.

I have no problem with reassuring the flight crews and other passengers on the airplane we share that in all likelihood I am not a terrorist and present no undue hazard to anybody.

I am more than willing to do that for fellow Americans for their peace of mind and confidence that the system is honest, working, and credible. I appreciate those Americans willing to do that for me.

This is not an imposition or hardship in any way.

 

[Foxfyre]

When States issue DLs to illegals they are undermining our ID system.

And the Biden administration required the airlines to accept the migrant invaders' arrest documents as sufficient identification to fly or travel on other public transportation. Talk about irresponsible, dangerous, and double standard!

 

[Leo123]

I have been jumping through hoops to enter federal buildings and our county courthouse for decades now. It is essential for protection of those who work there and also for some doing business there. I am 100% A-okay, approving of, strongly supportive of having to prove that I am me, I am a citizen, I am at least 18, and I live at a reasonably permanent verifiable address in order to register to vote.

I am 100% A-okay, approving of, strongly supportive of having to provide a valid, verifiable photo ID to vote.

I have no problem with reassuring the flight crews and other passengers on the airplane we share that in all likelihood I am not a terrorist and present no undue hazard to anybody.

I am more than willing to do that for fellow Americans for their peace of mind and confidence that the system is honest, working, and credible. I appreciate those Americans willing to do that for me.

This is not an imposition or hardship in any way.

I just went to the local Courthouse building to pay a traffic ticket and had to pass through a metal detector then, take a number and sit a wait to be called. Not much of a hoop really.

 

[Concerned American]

It has a gold star on the front and back of my FL driver's license and down here they implemented it a few years back.

I saw that reported on the news last night. I guess CA uses a golden bear in the upper right corner in place of a star and it appears that WA uses a golden evergreen tree near the center bottom.

 

[buttercup]

How is Real ID a threat to your liberty? We now have millions of illegal aliens residing in our country thanks to Biden. Do you really want illegal aliens using a DL to claim they are legal? Sometimes security requires action on your part you know.

I don't think you're getting what I've said, at least 3 or 4 times, about the border issue. But instead of repeating myself, I'm going to copy / paste a post from someone else, which answers your question about why I believe this is a slippery slope. This was posted on x, but instead of linking to it, I'll just paste the whole thing here....

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Why NOT to get the real ID! Notice the verbiage “real” !! You know right there its inverted!

The REAL ID Act is being pushed as a security measure, but the reality is, it’s about control, not protection.

1. It’s a National ID in Disguise

The government claims REAL ID isn’t a national ID, but it functions exactly like one.
✔ It centralizes personal data across states.
✔ It makes it easier for federal agencies to track individuals.
✔ It forces Americans to comply or lose access to basic freedoms like air travel.


2. It’s a Step Toward Government Surveillance

REAL ID creates a huge, shared database of personal information that can be accessed by multiple government agencies.
✔ In the future, it could be linked to facial recognition, financial data, or even a social credit system.
✔ What happens when the government decides who can and cannot travel based on compliance with other policies?

This ID system sets up a dangerous precedent for tracking and restricting movement.

3. Your Data is at Risk

The government isn’t exactly great at protecting sensitive information.
✔ A centralized system makes hacking easier, putting millions at risk of identity theft.
✔ REAL ID doesn’t make anyone safer—it just creates a massive cybersecurity risk.

If the government can’t even secure its own databases, why should we trust them with MORE of our personal data?

4. It Violates Your Right to Travel Freely

The REAL ID Act restricts movement within the U.S. by making it impossible to:
Board a domestic flight without a compliant ID.
Enter federal buildings or certain areas without government approval.

If the government can restrict travel based on an ID today, what stops them from adding other requirements in the future?

Freedom of movement should not be controlled by bureaucrats.

5. It’s Expensive & Unnecessary

✔ REAL ID costs states millions to implement.
✔ It forces citizens to provide more personal documents, creating a hassle for everyday Americans.
✔ Meanwhile, it doesn’t stop identity fraud—bad actors will still find ways to get fake IDs.

This isn’t about security. It’s about forcing compliance with a flawed system.

The Bigger Picture

Today, it’s just an ID. Tomorrow, it could be linked to:
Digital passports
Vaccine or health records
Social credit systems
Restrictions based on “approved” behavior

If that sounds far-fetched, look at other countries where national ID systems have led to government overreach and restricted freedoms.

REAL ID isn’t just an inconvenience—it’s a warning sign of what could come next.

What Can You Do?

Opt out by using a passport for travel instead.
Educate others about the real risks of this program.
Push back against digital ID expansions and government overreach.

If we don’t resist this now, what comes next will be even worse. Freedom requires vigilance. Stay informed. Stay free.

Would you comply with a system that tracks you just to travel? Or will you stand for freedom while you still can?

How “Voluntary” Becomes Mandatory – The 50% Rule Explained

Governments and corporations never force major control changes all at once—they introduce them gradually until most people accept them voluntarily. Once a majority (over 50%) comply, it becomes easier to enforce it as a law or requirement. Here’s how it works:

Step 1: Introduce It as “Optional” (Soft Launch)

At first, they tell you:
“This is just a convenient option! You don’t have to use it if you don’t want to.”
• Example: When REAL ID was first introduced, they said “You can still use your regular license.”
• Reality: They just need some people to start using it, so they normalize the idea without resistance.

Step 2: Make It Seem Like the “Better” Choice

Next, they push it with incentives:
“You’ll get through airport security faster.”
“You’ll have access to exclusive services.”
“It will make your life easier!”

 

[Leo123]

I saw that reported on the news last night. I guess CA uses a golden bear in the upper right corner in place of a star and it appears that WA uses a golden evergreen tree near the center bottom.

In CA it's a golden bear with a white star on it's butt. LOL

 

[Foxfyre]

I just went to the local Courthouse building to pay a traffic ticket and had to pass through a metal detector then, take a number and sit a wait to be called. Not much of a hoop really.

Haven't needed to go for some time now, but I used to go at least once or twice a week for court hearings for insurance cases I was managing, mostly work comp. They always had me go through the metal detector and open the briefcase or whatever else I was carrying even when they knew me by name. And I had to show ID of course. Didn't take more than a minute or so and I didn't mind it. Lots of crazies out there and without those precautions, courthouses would be a favorite target of them.

 

[Zincwarrior]

The problem will come when someone pushes for it to enable voting or to receive even more government cheese. And it will come, to eliminate any 'red tape' and to automate.

Thats the SAVE ACT.

 

[Concerned American]

I just went to the local Courthouse building to pay a traffic ticket and had to pass through a metal detector then, take a number and sit a wait to be called. Not much of a hoop really.

Thankfully, I live in an area where people---so far---have not resorted to political violence and we can enter our county courthouse without the need for any of that.

 

[buttercup]

This'll all be easier when the gub'mit puts microchips in our heads......
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~S~

That's where all this is going IF people continue to comply like sheep.

And just in case anyone thinks that's not what they want to do..... they pretty much openly admit it:

You will get chipped — eventually

Despite outcry by critics and religious activists, it will happen, but not overnight.

www.usatoday.com