Are you a conservative?

[Avatar4321]

If he wanted to relive the Dark ages, he would vote for progressives.

Christ was a progressive....

And look what happened to him, when the Conservatives were in charge.

Amazing how people who don't know Christ want to paint Him.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

If he wanted to relive the Dark ages, he would vote for progressives.

You might want to read up on who ruled the Dark Ages? They weren't progressives, but they would have burned you at the stake for saying so.

Robbers with any other name are still robbers.

And that has absolutely nothing to do with who ruled the Dark Ages and the fact that they avoided progress at all cost. To be a progressive then was to slit your own throat. Learn some history.

 

[Avatar4321]

Are you a conservative?


Change is
* Good
* inevtable
* Scary
* Dangerous

What does any of that have to do with conservatives?


Oh, I get it. You looked up some dictionary definition of "conservative", ignored that fact that the name was applied as a perjorative and a fib by the socialists of a hundred-plus years ago to honest people who wanted the limited government called for in the Constitution.

And then you decided to make a poll asking if the hundred-plus-year-old-lie was "still true".

Now your "poll" is understandable. Or at least the lies it embodies, are.

99 out of 100 times Wry is our Freddo Corleone. Every once in a while he breaks pattern and says something sane and decent...well maybe it's more like 999 out of 1,000 times

At least it means there is hope

 

[Avatar4321]

You might want to read up on who ruled the Dark Ages? They weren't progressives, but they would have burned you at the stake for saying so.

Robbers with any other name are still robbers.

And that has absolutely nothing to do with who ruled the Dark Ages and the fact that they avoided progress at all cost. To be a progressive then was to slit your own throat. Learn some history.

I do know history. Which is why I know totalitarians are the same in whatever age you choose no matter what you called them to make them sound nice.

The Founders abandoned that mindset when established a Republic to protect the liberty of the people to make their own way. The fact that you want to "progress" past the Constitution and the liberties of men and empower government to steal others property for you and your friends doesn't make you any better than those who did the same thing during the dark ages with another name.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Christ was a progressive....

And look what happened to him, when the Conservatives were in charge.

Amazing how people who don't know Christ want to paint Him.

In this case, as he actually was. Do you think the powers that be killed him for no reason? He got the worst punishment they had at the time, and according to the Bible, the Jews were perfectly fine with that because he was one radical SOB.

He was truly nuts BTW. An honest reading of the Synoptic Gospels shows that clearly. And the one who doesn't know your Lord is you.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Robbers with any other name are still robbers.

And that has absolutely nothing to do with who ruled the Dark Ages and the fact that they avoided progress at all cost. To be a progressive then was to slit your own throat. Learn some history.

I do know history. Which is why I know totalitarians are the same in whatever age you choose no matter what you called them to make them sound nice.

The Founders abandoned that mindset when established a Republic to protect the liberty of the people to make their own way. The fact that you want to "progress" past the Constitution and the liberties of men and empower government to steal others property for you and your friends doesn't make you any better than those who did the same thing during the dark ages with another name.

During the Dark Ages people like me got their heads chopped off, while people like you stopped all human progress in the name of your god.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Leave it to the left to promote an inane poll. Lately all you see from the left is a variation of the old Seinfeld joke, posts based on nothing.

Abstractions can be very challenging for some.

 

[Erand7899]

I voted change is good. I have no idea what the poll has to do with the thread title.

Change can be good or bad, depending on the factors involved in the change, and the circumstances around the change.

Getting fired or layed off is change, but rarely good.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Are you a conservative?


Change is
* Good
* inevtable
* Scary
* Dangerous

What does any of that have to do with conservatives?


Oh, I get it. You looked up some dictionary definition of "conservative", ignored that fact that the name was applied as a perjorative and a fib by the socialists of a hundred-plus years ago to honest people who wanted the limited government called for in the Constitution.

And then you decided to make a poll asking if the hundred-plus-year-old-lie was "still true".

Now your "poll" is understandable. Or at least the lies it embodies, are.

99 out of 100 times Wry is our Freddo Corleone. Every once in a while he breaks pattern and says something sane and decent...well maybe it's more like 999 out of 1,000 times

Sane and decent? I'll put my MMPI against yours any time CF. As for decent I always post fully dressed in my retirement outfit - jeans and a T-Shirt. Rumor has it you post as Stephanie in a granny dress and wig. Is that true?

 

[nodoginnafight]

What is a conservative?

Is there a prototype which includes: social conservatives, fiscal conservatives, neo conservatives, one-issue conservatives and callous conservatives?

Where do these separate sets intersect (on what issues do they all agree?)

How do you feel about change?

I hold some positions that are considered "conservative" and some that are considered "liberal"

Change is inevitable. Some change is good, some change is bad. I don't favor radical changes. I prefer gradual, incremental change most of the time.

 

[Mr Natural]

The more things change, the more things stay the same.

 

[Erand7899]

And that has absolutely nothing to do with who ruled the Dark Ages and the fact that they avoided progress at all cost. To be a progressive then was to slit your own throat. Learn some history.

I do know history. Which is why I know totalitarians are the same in whatever age you choose no matter what you called them to make them sound nice.

The Founders abandoned that mindset when established a Republic to protect the liberty of the people to make their own way. The fact that you want to "progress" past the Constitution and the liberties of men and empower government to steal others property for you and your friends doesn't make you any better than those who did the same thing during the dark ages with another name.

During the Dark Ages people like me got their heads chopped off, while people like you stopped all human progress in the name of your god.

I doubt that people like you were in any danger of getting their heads chopped off. They would be too busy sucking up to the power structure, and keeping their heads well tucked in. Some would be pointing out the radicals to the head choppers.

History has shown that people are pretty much the same, regardless of where they fall on the timeline. There are those who desire personal freedom, and those who go along to get along.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Change is inevitable but it is not always good.

 

[Wry Catcher]

What is a conservative?

Is there a prototype which includes: social conservatives, fiscal conservatives, neo conservatives, one-issue conservatives and callous conservatives?

Where do these separate sets intersect (on what issues do they all agree?)

How do you feel about change?

I hold some positions that are considered "conservative" and some that are considered "liberal"

Change is inevitable. Some change is good, some change is bad. I don't favor radical changes. I prefer gradual, incremental change most of the time.

That puts you in the mainstream with the vast majority of Americans. I infer you are pragmatic too something missing from the ideologues on the far left and the far right.

 

[Pennywise]

Change happens, like shit. Sometimes it's a relief, other times it's just a stinking mess.

Anyone wishing to re-quote that, be sure to give Ole Penny the proper due.

 

[Pennywise]

The more things change, the more things stay the same.

One of the more stupid re-quoted statements in history.

 

[Erand7899]

I voted change is good. I have no idea what the poll has to do with the thread title.

I thought the nexus was congruent, change can be for good or bad, we know it is scary and can be dangerous. Thus, which word on first blush describes how the reader sees change? It goes with are you a conservative, since support for tradition and slow cautious change are generally included in most definitions of the word conservative.

I find it strange that many of you attempt to equate liberal and conservative with the classical definitions, when it is obvious that the terms, as used in politics today, have little relationship to those definitions.

Conservatives generally support what history shows to have been good for mankind, and generally oppose change to the dark side. We have thousands of years worth of examples, good and bad, to choose from, and we have a pretty good idea of the results of those experiments. It is true, that if one is ignorant of history, one is doomed to repeat it. Conservatives do not wish to revisit failed policies in the hope that, this time, the believers can get it right. We have a system that works, and we should be damned careful about tossing it for some pie in the sky liberal/socialist utopia.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

I do know history. Which is why I know totalitarians are the same in whatever age you choose no matter what you called them to make them sound nice.

The Founders abandoned that mindset when established a Republic to protect the liberty of the people to make their own way. The fact that you want to "progress" past the Constitution and the liberties of men and empower government to steal others property for you and your friends doesn't make you any better than those who did the same thing during the dark ages with another name.

During the Dark Ages people like me got their heads chopped off, while people like you stopped all human progress in the name of your god.

I doubt that people like you were in any danger of getting their heads chopped off. They would be too busy sucking up to the power structure, and keeping their heads well tucked in. Some would be pointing out the radicals to the head choppers.

History has shown that people are pretty much the same, regardless of where they fall on the timeline. There are those who desire personal freedom, and those who go along to get along.

Your doubts do not change history. You would have loved the guys ruling the Dark Ages, they thought just like you do.

 

[buckeye45_73]

If he wanted to relive the Dark ages, he would vote for progressives.

Christ was a progressive....

And look what happened to him, when the Conservatives were in charge.

See you really dont understand american politics.

First conservatives dont oppose all change. Liberals hate electricity and automobiles, conservatives dont.

Liberals oppose changing anything but the military in the federal budget, again conservatives WANT change there

conservatives want to keep things that work and remove those that dont.... funny thing , liberals love to keep programs that dont work and resist all change, like in school policies.

And again for liberals, i find it hilarious when they tqlk about christ, especially since they dont believe in him and mock him relentlessly

 

[Wry Catcher]

I voted change is good. I have no idea what the poll has to do with the thread title.

I thought the nexus was congruent, change can be for good or bad, we know it is scary and can be dangerous. Thus, which word on first blush describes how the reader sees change? It goes with are you a conservative, since support for tradition and slow cautious change are generally included in most definitions of the word conservative.

I find it strange that many of you attempt to equate liberal and conservative with the classical definitions, when it is obvious that the terms, as used in politics today, have little relationship to those definitions.

Conservatives generally support what history shows to have been good for mankind, and generally oppose change to the dark side. We have thousands of years worth of examples, good and bad, to choose from, and we have a pretty good idea of the results of those experiments. It is true, that if one is ignorant of history, one is doomed to repeat it. Conservatives do not wish to revisit failed policies in the hope that, this time, the believers can get it right. We have a system that works, and we should be damned careful about tossing it for some pie in the sky liberal/socialist utopia.

Good grief. Conservatives (today) hold a callous disregard for others; they have made avarice ("it's your money!") into a virtue, once considered a deadly sin.

Suggesting "we have a system that works" is patently absurd; the system works for the few, the many - at best - are running in place.