Are religions with 'equal-opposite' concepts false?

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Judaism was the first Abrahamic religion. It has no concept of Hell or eternal punishment.

Christianity came next and invented, seemingly out of thin air, Hell despite basing itself on the Jewish religion.

Islam too has a "Hell." Basing itself off of Christianity and Judaism both.

But if the first religion had no Hell, and was true enough to base the latter two upon, but the latter two added Hell, are they right or wrong?
 

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Sheol means hell in hebrew. It is mentioned 65 times in the Old Testament.
Judaism was the first Abrahamic religion. It has no concept of Hell or eternal punishment.

Christianity came next and invented, seemingly out of thin air, Hell despite basing itself on the Jewish religion.

Islam too has a "Hell." Basing itself off of Christianity and Judaism both.

But if the first religion had no Hell, and was true enough to base the latter two upon, but the latter two added Hell, are they right or wrong?
 
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Sheol means hell in hebrew. It is mentioned 65 times in the Old Testament.
Judaism was the first Abrahamic religion. It has no concept of Hell or eternal punishment.

Christianity came next and invented, seemingly out of thin air, Hell despite basing itself on the Jewish religion.

Islam too has a "Hell." Basing itself off of Christianity and Judaism both.

But if the first religion had no Hell, and was true enough to base the latter two upon, but the latter two added Hell, are they right or wrong?
Sheol does not mean hell in Hebrew. It's more analgous to Hades (a place where all the dead go.)

SHEOL - JewishEncyclopedia.com

Catholic Encyclopedia's entry for Hell is informative.
CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA Hell

"Hell (infernus) in theological usage is a place of punishment after death. Theologians distinguish four meanings of the term hell:

* hell in the strict sense, or the place of punishment for the damned, be they demons or men;
* the limbo of infants (limbus parvulorum), where those who die in original sin alone, and without personal mortal sin, are confined and undergo some kind of punishment;
* the limbo of the Fathers (limbus patrum), in which the souls of the just who died before Christ awaited their admission to heaven; for in the meantime heaven was closed against them in punishment for the sin of Adam;
* purgatory, where the just, who die in venial sin or who still owe a debt of temporal punishment for sin, are cleansed by suffering before their admission to heaven."

A 'place of punishment' then is not the same idea as Hades or Sheol where all dead go whether good or evil, to be rewarded or punished. They're completely different ideas.
 

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Is There A Real Hell What do these names Sheol Hades Gehenna Queber Tartarus Abyss Hell and the Lake of Fire mean

Here is a better explanation for you-

Sheol means hell in hebrew. It is mentioned 65 times in the Old Testament.
Judaism was the first Abrahamic religion. It has no concept of Hell or eternal punishment.

Christianity came next and invented, seemingly out of thin air, Hell despite basing itself on the Jewish religion.

Islam too has a "Hell." Basing itself off of Christianity and Judaism both.

But if the first religion had no Hell, and was true enough to base the latter two upon, but the latter two added Hell, are they right or wrong?
Sheol does not mean hell in Hebrew. It's more analgous to Hades (a place where all the dead go.)

SHEOL - JewishEncyclopedia.com

Catholic Encyclopedia's entry for Hell is informative.
CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA Hell

"Hell (infernus) in theological usage is a place of punishment after death. Theologians distinguish four meanings of the term hell:

* hell in the strict sense, or the place of punishment for the damned, be they demons or men;
* the limbo of infants (limbus parvulorum), where those who die in original sin alone, and without personal mortal sin, are confined and undergo some kind of punishment;
* the limbo of the Fathers (limbus patrum), in which the souls of the just who died before Christ awaited their admission to heaven; for in the meantime heaven was closed against them in punishment for the sin of Adam;
* purgatory, where the just, who die in venial sin or who still owe a debt of temporal punishment for sin, are cleansed by suffering before their admission to heaven."

A 'place of punishment' then is not the same idea as Hades or Sheol where all dead go whether good or evil, to be rewarded or punished. They're completely different ideas.
 

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Hell can be considered dying without any redemption when it has been offered, whether you believe in a physical hell or not. In other words no everafter.
(even in the actual process of your dying you can be redeemed)
Jmo.
 
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Is There A Real Hell What do these names Sheol Hades Gehenna Queber Tartarus Abyss Hell and the Lake of Fire mean

Here is a better explanation for you-

Sheol means hell in hebrew. It is mentioned 65 times in the Old Testament.
Judaism was the first Abrahamic religion. It has no concept of Hell or eternal punishment.

Christianity came next and invented, seemingly out of thin air, Hell despite basing itself on the Jewish religion.

Islam too has a "Hell." Basing itself off of Christianity and Judaism both.

But if the first religion had no Hell, and was true enough to base the latter two upon, but the latter two added Hell, are they right or wrong?
Sheol does not mean hell in Hebrew. It's more analgous to Hades (a place where all the dead go.)

SHEOL - JewishEncyclopedia.com

Catholic Encyclopedia's entry for Hell is informative.
CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA Hell

"Hell (infernus) in theological usage is a place of punishment after death. Theologians distinguish four meanings of the term hell:

* hell in the strict sense, or the place of punishment for the damned, be they demons or men;
* the limbo of infants (limbus parvulorum), where those who die in original sin alone, and without personal mortal sin, are confined and undergo some kind of punishment;
* the limbo of the Fathers (limbus patrum), in which the souls of the just who died before Christ awaited their admission to heaven; for in the meantime heaven was closed against them in punishment for the sin of Adam;
* purgatory, where the just, who die in venial sin or who still owe a debt of temporal punishment for sin, are cleansed by suffering before their admission to heaven."

A 'place of punishment' then is not the same idea as Hades or Sheol where all dead go whether good or evil, to be rewarded or punished. They're completely different ideas.

Consider the source first. Of course a Christian website is gonna say they're all the same thing. What dya want them to say? The truth? :)
 

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So your purpose was an attempt to discredit, rather than wanting an actual answer. You have every right not to believe, but I also have every right to believe. It takes more to have faith in anything unseen than it does to not.

Next time I will understand you have no desire for actual discussion, only an attempt to ridicule those that think differently than you. (which makes me only have pity for you, rather than feel any ridicule) Glad you believe (a word of faith) you have a right to your lack of belief, but I don't in mine.
My hope is one day you might see things differently. You will feel alive and at peace, if you ever do
Is There A Real Hell What do these names Sheol Hades Gehenna Queber Tartarus Abyss Hell and the Lake of Fire mean

Here is a better explanation for you-

Sheol means hell in hebrew. It is mentioned 65 times in the Old Testament.
Judaism was the first Abrahamic religion. It has no concept of Hell or eternal punishment.

Christianity came next and invented, seemingly out of thin air, Hell despite basing itself on the Jewish religion.

Islam too has a "Hell." Basing itself off of Christianity and Judaism both.

But if the first religion had no Hell, and was true enough to base the latter two upon, but the latter two added Hell, are they right or wrong?
Sheol does not mean hell in Hebrew. It's more analgous to Hades (a place where all the dead go.)

SHEOL - JewishEncyclopedia.com

Catholic Encyclopedia's entry for Hell is informative.
CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA Hell

"Hell (infernus) in theological usage is a place of punishment after death. Theologians distinguish four meanings of the term hell:

* hell in the strict sense, or the place of punishment for the damned, be they demons or men;
* the limbo of infants (limbus parvulorum), where those who die in original sin alone, and without personal mortal sin, are confined and undergo some kind of punishment;
* the limbo of the Fathers (limbus patrum), in which the souls of the just who died before Christ awaited their admission to heaven; for in the meantime heaven was closed against them in punishment for the sin of Adam;
* purgatory, where the just, who die in venial sin or who still owe a debt of temporal punishment for sin, are cleansed by suffering before their admission to heaven."

A 'place of punishment' then is not the same idea as Hades or Sheol where all dead go whether good or evil, to be rewarded or punished. They're completely different ideas.

Consider the source first. Of course a Christian website is gonna say they're all the same thing. What dya want them to say? The truth? :)
 
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Can believe whatever we like. But if in supporting your belief your source material is anything but unbiased, then if your belief is based on that biased material it stands exposed as unreliable. In essence, why should anyone else believe it if you only believe it due to bias?
 

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Is There A Real Hell What do these names Sheol Hades Gehenna Queber Tartarus Abyss Hell and the Lake of Fire mean

Here is a better explanation for you-

Sheol means hell in hebrew. It is mentioned 65 times in the Old Testament.
Judaism was the first Abrahamic religion. It has no concept of Hell or eternal punishment.

Christianity came next and invented, seemingly out of thin air, Hell despite basing itself on the Jewish religion.

Islam too has a "Hell." Basing itself off of Christianity and Judaism both.

But if the first religion had no Hell, and was true enough to base the latter two upon, but the latter two added Hell, are they right or wrong?
Sheol does not mean hell in Hebrew. It's more analgous to Hades (a place where all the dead go.)

SHEOL - JewishEncyclopedia.com

Catholic Encyclopedia's entry for Hell is informative.
CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA Hell

"Hell (infernus) in theological usage is a place of punishment after death. Theologians distinguish four meanings of the term hell:

* hell in the strict sense, or the place of punishment for the damned, be they demons or men;
* the limbo of infants (limbus parvulorum), where those who die in original sin alone, and without personal mortal sin, are confined and undergo some kind of punishment;
* the limbo of the Fathers (limbus patrum), in which the souls of the just who died before Christ awaited their admission to heaven; for in the meantime heaven was closed against them in punishment for the sin of Adam;
* purgatory, where the just, who die in venial sin or who still owe a debt of temporal punishment for sin, are cleansed by suffering before their admission to heaven."

A 'place of punishment' then is not the same idea as Hades or Sheol where all dead go whether good or evil, to be rewarded or punished. They're completely different ideas.
If course there is a hell.... dante was there and back again. It is a VERY interesting place-----lots of DIFFERENT neighborhoods I, very much, enjoyed
reading about it---------it was far more interesting than PURGATORY and INFINITELY more interesting than "paradise"----or the CELESTIAL ROSE,,,,<<<<
<<<< watevah da hell that is
 

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That makes absolutely no sense.
For those in the know, the New Testament is our guide.
Obviously you find Christian sources as biased as you don't believe. And for that reason this conversation is over., because as I said previously you are not here to learn, as your topic seemed to suggest, only to try to discredit that which you do not know.
Can believe whatever we like. But if in supporting your belief your source material is anything but unbiased, then if your belief is based on that biased material it stands exposed as unreliable. In essence, why should anyone else believe it if you only believe it due to bias?
 
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That makes absolutely no sense.
For those in the know, the New Testament is our guide.
Obviously you find Christian sources as biased as you don't believe. And for that reason this conversation is over., because as I said previously you are not here to learn, only to try to discredit that which you do not know.
Can believe whatever we like. But if in supporting your belief your source material is anything but unbiased, then if your belief is based on that biased material it stands exposed as unreliable. In essence, why should anyone else believe it if you only believe it due to bias?
Makes perfect sense. The Bible does not, and can not prove itself. Be like saying day-walking vampires are real because the novel "Twilight" says they do.
 

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Last time. Believing in something greater than ourselves thru faith and experience is what being a Christian is all about. Do you ever plan ahead for something in the future? I assume you do, and in so doing you are leaping out in faith you will be able to follow through with that plan, even though you haven't the slightest idea whether tomorrow or next week will ever come for you. That is a form of faith, something you honestly can't know, yet you believe it enough to plan ahead for it.
That makes absolutely no sense.
For those in the know, the New Testament is our guide.
Obviously you find Christian sources as biased as you don't believe. And for that reason this conversation is over., because as I said previously you are not here to learn, only to try to discredit that which you do not know.
Can believe whatever we like. But if in supporting your belief your source material is anything but unbiased, then if your belief is based on that biased material it stands exposed as unreliable. In essence, why should anyone else believe it if you only believe it due to bias?
Makes perfect sense. The Bible does not, and can not prove itself. Be like saying day-walking vampires are real because the novel "Twilight" says they do.
 

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