Are College Students Really This Dumb?

[Unkotare]

Several countries offer free or near-free public college tuition...

No, there aren't. Someone else paying doesn't equal "free."

 

[Hafar1014]

Everyone here doesn't get to go...

I suspect most countries have a way to train the trades.

More have the opportunity In America than any nation that offers it for free. They test students and if you dont pass you cant go. In America community college is an option these countries dont have. America wil open doors for the hard workers

 

[late]

More have the opportunity In America than any nation that offers it for free. They test students and if you dont pass you cant go. In America community college is an option these countries dont have. America wil open doors for the hard workers

If you want a degree, and you're not an idiot, it's a great choice.

On top of everything else, you can chose to live In Europe, I've spent a few months in Europe, and loved it.

 

[Zincwarrior]

No, there aren't. Someone else paying doesn't equal "free."

Sophistry. Free for the student.
We used to have that in the US, then the Boomers killed it.

 

[late]

Sophistry. Free for the student.
We used to have that in the US, then the Boomers killed it.

That sounds flaky.

 

[EdwinAMartin]

At MOST, 25% of today's HS grads are college material.

I would say more like the usual percentage, about 10%, as it has been historically. My great aunts and uncles and grandparents were very well educated, mostly self-educated , being from small towns. My grandmothers went to the teaching schools and became teachers, My grandfather went to France in WW I as a supply corp quartermaster and got military training in accounting and logistics, and after the war studied on his own to become a CPA, another did the same and passed the bar exam on his first try, and another uncle did go to school and became an engineer at a military school. My aunts went the teaching schools and accounting night schools while working, and continued to work after marriage. There were other alternatives besides attending universities, and most people took advantage of those. All managed to do well even during the Depression and after WW II.

 

[Winco]

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Sadly, these ^^^^ people do exist.

Sadly.........So do these.

 

[postman]

When did I say anything remotely like that?

When you said too many people are wasting too much money going to college, and there's a shortage of tradesmen.

The only way to fix that, is to have the government tell people what to do.

 

[postman]

People who are definitely NOT "college material" are getting into, and graduating from college these days by the hundreds of thousands. Attrition is a thing of the past even at elite schools because they need those butts in the seats to pay the bills.

That is not true. Elite schools have acceptance rates means they have more than enough butts to fill the seats.

Ivy League acceptance rates for the Class of 2029 (entering fall 2025) remain extremely competitive, with most schools admitting between 3% and 8% of applicants.

While foreign students, who pay FULL tuition, help pay the bills.

 

[postman]

I joined the military first.

Mkay?

I joined the military again because the job market in CA sucked in the 70s and 80s.

Imagine if you stayed with the military that whole time.

 

[mudwhistle]

Imagine if you stayed with the military that whole time.

I got tired of constantly being sent out to sea and over seas.

That's what happens when you're on an aircraft carrier.

When I went back in I joined the Army so I could come home to my wife more often.

Eventually I retired when the deployments got out of hand. I spent most of my last two years deployed or overseas.

 

[postman]

At MOST, 25% of today's HS grads are college material. The fact that we have seats in colleges for about 80% of today's college-age Yoots is a problem that nobody appears willing to address.

What you miss is that colleges teach a variety of skills, even if they don't apply to a specific career, ex liberal arts.
They teach valuable skills that apply to citizens in general. While others have particular career studies that less than 25% are qualified to study, like math, the sciences, engineering, law or medicine.

 

[Unkotare]

...Free for the student.
...

Just like cars are "free" for car thieves.

 

[Rawley]

Sophistry. Free for the student.
We used to have that in the US, then the Boomers killed it.

College used to be free before the Boomers? Huh?

 

[postman]

Just like cars are "free" for car thieves.

In this country over 75% of a child's education is free to them.

 

[Unkotare]

Sadly, these ^^^^ people do exist.

Sadly.........So do these.
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Why "sadly"?

 

[Unkotare]

In this country over 75% of a child's education is free to them.

But not to the taxpayers.

 

[Unkotare]

When you said too many people are wasting too much money going to college,...

I never said that.

 

[Unkotare]

What you miss is that colleges teach a variety of skills, even if they don't apply to a specific career, ex liberal arts.
They teach valuable skills that apply to citizens in general. While others have particular career studies that less than 25% are qualified to study, like math, the sciences, engineering, law or medicine.

Where did you pull that percentage from?

 

[Harry Dresden]

Where did you pull that percentage from?

the same place he got his knowledge of the post office he doesnt work for....his ass.........