Zone1 Are Catholics not also Christians?

[whutTHEYsay]

help

Christianity was created and founded as a state religion of the Roman empire. The US Constitution put an end to Christianity’s “state religion“ status.

iii. A little history about the evolution of Christianity itself; excepts from the Book “The Evolution of God” by Robert Wright

TEofG pg 288: It didn’t take Christians long to start annoying people as early as 64 CE, before all the books of the New Testament had been written, the Emperor Nero was having followers of Jesus smeared with pitch, put on crosses and set on fire.

The thrifty persecutor, Nero (according to the Roman historian Tacitus), used the flaming bodies to serve as lights when daylight failed. The emperor’s immediate aim was to make Christian scapegoats, to blame them for a devastating fire that some people were blaming on him. But there was a less informal source of tension between the Christians and Roman rulers. Christians didn’t fit the Roman model of religion.

The Roman government let people worship whatever God they chose so long as they also paid homage to the official guards of the Empire.

Christians refused to worship state gods, and they couldn’t honestly grant legitimacy to the various other gods people worshiped, either. In fact, they actively challenged that legitimacy because Christians weren’t just monotheistic; they were monotheists prone to proselytizing. .

The proselytizing outweighed the persecution, and Christianity grew until, in 312, it crossed its famous threshold: Emperor Constantine, inspired by a vision, decided to fight a crucial battle under the symbol of the cross. The ensuing victory elevated Jesus in his esteem and helped usher in an error of official tolerance for Christianity. By the end of the fourth century, Christianity was the official religion of the empire, and pagan religions were banned.

 

[shockedcanadian]

I always viewed the term Christianity as speaking to the overarching religion which involves Jesus. Catholics may have a different slant but they are both believers in Jesus as the Messiah (some even view him as more than that).

 

[whutTHEYsay]

I always viewed the term Christianity as speaking to the overarching religion which involves Jesus. Catholics may have a different slant but they are both believers in Jesus as the Messiah.

What is Jesus Christ’s involvement? Is he God incarnate or just a mortal human with a message?

 

[shockedcanadian]

What is Jesus Christ’s involvement? Is he God incarnate or just a mortal human with a message?

You tell me. I view Jesus as a great man, a Rabbi.

 

[Zebra]

I always viewed the term Christianity as speaking to the overarching religion which involves Jesus. Catholics may have a different slant but they are both believers in Jesus as the Messiah (some even view him as more than that).

well said!

 

[whutTHEYsay]

You tell me. I view Jesus as a great man, a Rabb

Your “Jesus” is not God incarnate, so therefore your Jesus is not the God object to be worshipped by the Catholics as the Son of God born from a Virgin without sin but at the same time is God who communicates through a Holy Ghos

Jefferson regarded this story as a myth about the nirmal man, Jesus that was created by self-serving priests who put up artificial scaffolding around him which corrupted his simple moral message.

you dont believe in the Catholic fsble then do you?

 

[ding]

Christianity was created and founded as a state religion of the Roman empire. The US Constitution put an end to Christianity’s “state religion“ status.

iii. A little history about the evolution of Christianity itself; excepts from the Book “The Evolution of God” by Robert Wright

TEofG pg 288: It didn’t take Christians long to start annoying people as early as 64 CE, before all the books of the New Testament had been written, the Emperor Nero was having followers of Jesus smeared with pitch, put on crosses and set on fire.

The thrifty persecutor, Nero (according to the Roman historian Tacitus), used the flaming bodies to serve as lights when daylight failed. The emperor’s immediate aim was to make Christian scapegoats, to blame them for a devastating fire that some people were blaming on him. But there was a less informal source of tension between the Christians and Roman rulers. Christians didn’t fit the Roman model of religion.

The Roman government let people worship whatever God they chose so long as they also paid homage to the official guards of the Empire.

Christians refused to worship state gods, and they couldn’t honestly grant legitimacy to the various other gods people worshiped, either. In fact, they actively challenged that legitimacy because Christians weren’t just monotheistic; they were monotheists prone to proselytizing. .

The proselytizing outweighed the persecution, and Christianity grew until, in 312, it crossed its famous threshold: Emperor Constantine, inspired by a vision, decided to fight a crucial battle under the symbol of the cross. The ensuing victory elevated Jesus in his esteem and helped usher in an error of official tolerance for Christianity. By the end of the fourth century, Christianity was the official religion of the empire, and pagan religions were banned.

You are an idiot.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

idiot

St.Ding “I doubt Jefferson believed CHRISTIANITY was detrimental to the progress of mankind.”

 

[whutTHEYsay]

St. Ding: “Still not making the connection to how God is providential. You have the definition correct but how is God intervening in your life exactly?”

St. Ding: How is God intervening in your life? Because I don't believe you believe God intervenes in anyone's life.


Whut: The communication between God and Humans goes to our soul not to our mind. Our souls choose separation from God to know suffering to know ecstasy. Don’t know if God ever violates natural laws set in motion during creation but I sense with conviction that God is in direct touch with my soul to keep it headed more toward joy and further from pain. Apart from my physical body of course.

God intervenes in bringing great souls together to do great things, but seas are never parted and then released to drown an enemies army.

Paraphrasing your Holy Bible St.Ding from it’s opening verse, I can sum up my theology in one sentence. Mind is neither male nor female.

 

[ding]

St. Ding: “Still not making the connection to how God is providential. You have the definition correct but how is God intervening in your life exactly?”

St. Ding: How is God intervening in your life? Because I don't believe you believe God intervenes in anyone's life.


Whut: The communication between God and Humans goes to our soul not to our mind. Our souls choose separation from God to know suffering to know ecstasy. Don’t know if God ever violates natural laws set in motion during creation but I sense with conviction that God is in direct touch with my soul to keep it headed more toward joy and further from pain. Apart from my physical body of course.

God intervenes in bringing great souls together to do great things, but seas are never parted and then released to drown an enemies army.

Paraphrasing your Holy Bible St.Ding from it’s opening verse, I can sum up my theology in one sentence. Mind is neither male nor female.

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You do realize no one reads your posts, right?

 

[whutTHEYsay]

You do realize no one reads your posts, right?

You ask questions I answer them.

Whut: The communication between God and Humans goes to our soul not to our mind. Our souls choose separation from God to know suffering to know ecstasy. Don’t know if God ever violates natural laws set in motion during creation but I sense with conviction that God is in direct touch with my soul to keep it headed more toward joy and further from pain. Apart from my physical body of course.

I can’t help someone who asks questions and then will not read the answers.

 

[ding]

You ask questions I answer them.

Whut: The communication between God and Humans goes to our soul not to our mind. Our souls choose separation from God to know suffering to know ecstasy. Don’t know if God ever violates natural laws set in motion during creation but I sense with conviction that God is in direct touch with my soul to keep it headed more toward joy and further from pain. Apart from my physical body of course.

I can’t help someone who asks questions and then will not read the answers.

I’m sure you do believe that too.

 

[ding]

That is ok. Your avoidance of tough questions is going well for my edification and research of white Christian nationalism of which you are a persistent proponent and propagandist.

You do share the propaganda microphone with the ideological and political abortion subdivision of the Catholic Church do you not St.Ding?

You do have conversations with Yahweh do you not?

Perhaps He will give you His answer to the following question about North america’s indigenous people? We’re all human beings created equal from the beginning of human life on the planet Earth?

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Seek help.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

I’m sure you do believe that too.

No objection to my answer to your questions:?

St.Ding: “Still not making the connection to how God is providential. You have the definition correct but how is God intervening in your life exactly?”​

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St.Ding: How is God intervening in your life? Because I don't believe you believe God intervenes in anyone's life.​

So God working with human souls without miracles would be interactive and considered to be providential action with individuals and/or groups of individuals such as the generation that declared independence from the British Empire in 1776; most of whom were not Christians who believed in the Divinity of Jesus Christ and Divine Inspiration of the Scriptures

Have you found out when the soul enters a pre~birth body yer?

 

[whutTHEYsay]

often i read things like ....Chritians and Catholics

but is Christian not a cover all term for Protestans and Catholicsvalice?is

Yes Christianity includes Catholics because they worship Yahweh, The same original war god of a tribe in Northern Africa.

 

[Stann]

often i read things like ....Chritians and Catholics

but is Christian not a cover all term for Protestans and Catholicsvalice?is

Catholics were Christians long before Protestants existed. This question is ludicrous.

 

[Zebra]

Catholics were Christians long before Protestants existed. This question is ludicrous.

you are right!

my question was just a rhetorical question, because some fundamental Protestants say so, that Catholics are no Christians

 

[Zebra]

often i read things like ....Chritians and Catholics

but is Christian not a cover all term for Protestans and Catholicsvalice?is

just to correct those typos ....

is Christian not a cover.all term for Protestants and Catholics alike?

 

[Zebra]

I always viewed the term Christianity as speaking to the overarching religion which involves Jesus. Catholics may have a different slant but they are both believers in Jesus as the Messiah (some even view him as more than that).

now 13 of 14 voted for yes!

 

[Zebra]

Catholics were Christians long before Protestants existed. This question is ludicrous.

13 of 14 say yes!
Good to see!