Zone1 Who is a more righteous man?

Who is a more righteous man? Rank them in order and/or tell us why one is the most righteous

  • Jesus

    Votes: 13 81.3%
  • Mohammad

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Joseph Smith

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Ghandi

    Votes: 1 6.3%
  • Karl Marx

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Buddha

    Votes: 2 12.5%
  • Trump

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Hitler

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Stalin

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Obama

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    16
According to Jewish texts, sorcery and leading Israel to apostasy.
Well said.

Within Judaism, their own historical account cannot deny he existed and that the religious leaders crucified him, so the only alternative is to say he was an evil man to help defend why they killed him, that is, they say it under their breath and walk away quickly

Notice none of them here show up to make their case that Jesus was an evil man.
 
Wrong

For a long time, there was no evidence of a man called Pontius Pilate as well. He was only known through the Bible and the historians Josephus and Tacitus who also wrote about the life of Jesus.

Read more at: What Archaeological Evidence Proves That Jesus Existed?

Pontius Pilate appears prominently in all four Gospel accounts as the Roman prefect who authorized Jesus’ crucifixion. For many years, historians knew about Pilate only from biblical sources and mentions in ancient writers like Josephus and Tacitus. In 1961, archaeologists working in Caesarea Maritima found a limestone stone bearing an inscription that reads “Pontius Pilate, Prefect of Judea” in Latin. This inscription provides the only archaeological evidence of Pilate’s official title and his role as prefect of Judea. The stone dates to the first century and originally stood in a public building where Pilate would have conducted official business. The discovery of this stone proved that Pilate was a real historical figure with the authority the Gospel accounts attribute to him. The inscription confirms that Pilate held the title of prefect during the time when Jesus was crucified. Before the discovery of this stone, some scholars questioned whether Pilate had actually governed Judea or held the position described in the Gospels. The archaeological evidence of Pilate’s stone removed all doubt about his historical reality and official position. This finding demonstrates that key figures mentioned in connection with Jesus’ death are confirmed as real historical people through archaeological discovery.

Read more at: What Archaeological Evidence Proves That Jesus Existed?

Try again.

Wiki agrees


There is no scholarly consensus concerning the historicity of most elements of Jesus's life as described in the Bible, and only two key events of the biblical story of Jesus's life have been widely accepted as historical, based on the criterion of embarrassment, namely his baptism by John the Baptist and his crucifixion by the order of Pontius Pilate,
Biased website. Dismissed.
 
And alas, the dirt on Buddha as well.


The Buddha has become a living personality in Western pop culture, though one that is often but a tissue of romantic projections and postmodern Orientalism. The Buddha long ago joined the likes of Jimi Hendrix, Albert Einstein, and the Dalai Lama as the face of a million Internet memes offering up feel-good bits of wisdom he never actually said and, in many cases, would never say.

Even among Buddhists who read the teachings of the historical Buddha, there isn’t much of a sense of the Buddha’s human personality and pre-legendary biography. This is chiefly because the oldest Buddhist scriptures are massive — thousands of pages long, 40 volumes in one popular edition.

In fact, most followers are only familiar with the Buddhist teachings that are regularly chanted in temples or published in collections of the Buddha’s most important teachings. And as for the biography of the Buddha himself, his legend long ago overtook what the earliest sources actually say.

What’s more, the Buddha’s true personality and opinions would shock many Westerners (and even some Buddhists).

I was able to read most — not all — of the Pali Tipitaka (the original and most complete canon of Buddhist scripture, and the source of the quotations and stories below) during the three years I spent living in a Buddhist monastery. And what I found revolutionized my understanding of both Buddhist teachings and who the Buddha was as a human being.

Far from his cheerful and cherubic depictions today, the Buddha viewed the world as full of ugliness and suffering — a worldview which started from a relatively early age. According to the Buddha’s portrayal of himself, he grew up in great wealth in present-day India sometime between the sixth and fourth centuries BCE but as a young man left home to become a religious wanderer. He did this against the wishes of his parents, who wept and mourned at their son’s decision.

The Buddha tells us that he left home because he was horrified and humiliated by the universal nature of illness, suffering, and death and wanted to seek a reality that transcended such things. It was this quest that motivated him to wander into the Indian jungle with its growing culture of spiritual philosophers and renunciants.

After attaining what he called nirvana (the ultimate state of enlightenment), the Buddha taught others for 45 years. As a teacher in later life his character was stern, ascetic, and possessed of remarkable integrity and clarity of vision. His spirituality was practical: He claimed he was only concerned with leading people to the transcendence he had achieved and the freedom from suffering it offered.

The Buddha was so keen on the transcendence he’d found because he saw the universe as an ultimately meaningless prison and the truths he’d discovered as the escape route. The Buddha compared human life to torture, debt, prison, being burnt alive, and being afflicted with leprous sores. He view eating food as a violent act, akin to cannibalizing your only child — a comparison which likely won’t show up as a Facebook meme anytime soon.

Yet, despite the Buddha’s despair at the human condition, he was a man of deep compassion and humanity who relieved what suffering he could with what wisdom he thought others could absorb. The Buddha tirelessly taught others and developed communities that would practice his ways, gradually setting down a detailed code of monastic rules and etiquette. He remained a poor wanderer until his death.

Contrary to popular Eastern (and, by extension, Western) images of him as a plump, long-haired demigod with a perfect complexion, the Buddha shaved his head, and in his later years was indistinguishable to visitors of his community from any other members of his gang of ragged, wandering monks.

The Buddha was what you might call a staunch puritan. He advised his lay followers not to frequent public festivities or carouse at night or to gamble, and to be exceedingly frugal. He told his monastic followers to wander alone “like rhinoceros horns,” avoiding the conflict and stress of companionship unless there was spiritual insight to be gained from it.

Furthermore, the Buddha was also a critic of the human body itself, calling it “a sack full of impurities” and a “festering boil.” To cure their lust, he taught his monks to meditate on how revolting it was. The Buddha didn’t stop there: He detailed a series of cemetery meditations in which monks would watch human bodies in various stages of decomposition.

In fact, the most marked failure in the history of Buddhist teachings was surely when a large group of monks whom he had taught to meditate on the loathsomeness of their own bodies committed suicide as a result (the Buddha then modified his instructions so that monks would keep their psychic balance while meditating on the body).

In addition, the Buddha compared singing to howling, dancing to lunacy, and laughing out loud to childishness, advising his followers to give up singing and dancing and be content with only moderate smiling.

In one case, the Buddha had harsh words for an entertainer who believed that after death he would be reborn in a heaven of laughing angels. Far from being rewarded for making people laugh, said the Buddha, the entertainer would in fact be reborn in “the hell of laughter” for filling people’s minds with delusions.

And despite the Western view of Buddhist teachings as empirical, practical, and even scientific, he in fact claimed to speak regularly to devatas (spirit beings from a higher plane than the human) and claimed that he and some of his disciples had supernatural powers: ESP, telekinesis, astral travel, flight, and more.

The Buddha’s record with women is complex and contradictory — and not exactly what you may imagine when thinking of tantra. While he affirmed women’s equal potential in the spiritual life by proclaiming that they too could attain nirvana and gave special teachings to laywomen in addition to creating a nun’s order, he’s also on record as saying some pretty vile things about women.

When talking to his monks, the Buddha is quoted comparing women to creepers that entangle and then fell a tree, and to poisonous black snakes on account of their being “impure, foul-smelling, dangerous, traitorous to friends, frightening, wrathful, hostile, and double-tongued.”

The Buddha also warned his monks that it would be better for them to put their penises in the mouth of a cobra or a pit of hot coals than in a vagina. The Buddha was, it should be noted, talking to monks, who are sworn to celibacy and must uphold their vows or suffer the karmic consequences.

All in all, far from the caricature of easygoing, all-accepting blissfulness that has inspired a million head shops to adorn themselves with Buddha statues, the actual Buddha was a complex human being and a stern, sometimes unpalatable spiritual teacher whose views are not as easy to digest as many might think.
It seems the Buddha had a lot in common with Gnostic Christians. They hated the material world too. Seems like they both have that in common with atheists.
 
The Babylonian Talmud - a Jewish text - states that Jesus was put to death for sorcery and leading Israel to apostasy. Is that a biased text too?

certainly does nothing for their denial for the consequences that befell jesus ... and undoubtedly a biased text.
 


Hey man, Fred Rogers was a great man. It's not cool to be making fun of him.


Yes, and Christianity is the only religion that teaches this. All other religions you hope that your good outweighs your bad deeds, in the hopes that you won't go to hell if it exists.


Yeah, which makes it WAYYYYY more complicated if you ask me. Jesus said that all we have to do is believe in Him, trust Him, and make Him our Savior and that's it we're saved from Hell. I will also say this again, the people on here who defended Trump for his blasphemy meme worry me because I don't think that they're truly born again.


Trump is my president, not my Savior so I refuse to treat him as such and when he's in the wrong I call him out on it. That's because on judgement day I don't want to have to answer for it later of why I decided to stand with the world and not with Christ.
 
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