AOC Is A Communist

[francoHFW]

I am a Democratic fair capitalist....

At least you're admitting now you're a capitalist. There's no such thing as a "democratic capitalist" any more than a democratic king or democratic fief lord or slave master. Capitalism is an authoritarian system of for-profit production that commodifies and exploits human labor (human lives), for the profit of the wealthy capitalist parasite who owns the factory and machinery. There's no democracy in the capitalist workplace hence the constant struggle between the capitalist owner-elites and their workers. Paying a person $100 daily, when they're producing $700 daily in goods and services is thievery. Capitalism alienates people from what they produce and from each other. It also takes control of the government with $.

....or a socialist as it understood by every socialist and socialist party ever.

Really? You're confused. What type of socialism is this? One where socialists are proud to call themselves capitalists? Perpetuating the power of the capitalist imperialists? Karl Marx coined the term "socialism" and communism, yet you ignore everything Marx said about socialism and capitalism, pretending you're both a capitalist and a socialist. You're a contradiction.

You are way out there And don't know the real-world difference between socialism and communism Democracy.

In the "real-world" Marx defined what socialism is and how it's the revolutionary process that leads to communism. Communism is a stateless society, without socioeconomic classes or the need for money. How the hell did you conclude from that, that communism isn't democratic? Your definitions of socialism and communism are absurd. Absurdo.

I'm more interested in what is wrong with our country and who can solve it. Your theory about the future may be right but I don't care, and you better not call it communism or socialism in the English speaking world or it won't work lOL they're terminally confused about it....

I can agree with you on this point. Due to decades of capitalist Cold War propaganda, the American public is completely brainwashed, hence using terms like communism won't fly here. It's a bad idea. Socialism is becoming more common and accepted in the US, especially among the youth, but communism is misunderstood.

i'm talking about reality and every socialist party ever in a democracy has been for fair capitalism. Communism doesn't work except as a dictatorship and even then it doesn't work. Marx was basically wrong about everything except that Savage capitalism in the middle of the industrial revolution was not fair. But unions and socialists/progressives forced reforms that brought working class into the middle class. That's the way it better stay, it isn't that way right now because the GOP has been in charge for 50 years. Great society under Johnson gave us a living wage And Medicare and Medicaid- - a dollar 80 in 1968 is like 14-15 dollars now,,,, Then no reform basically until Obamacare, just GOP giveaway to the rich. Communism will work when humans evolve some more LOL....

 

[francoHFW]

You need a dictatorship of capitalists, to own the factories and all of the facilities and machinery of production. The fact that in a mixed economy, workers get more perks, doesn't justify capitalism any more than a slave master who treats his slaves well, justifies the institution of slavery. You assume that only under capitalists government can be "democratic", but not under socialism. You're the one who doesn't know what the hell he's talking about. Capitalism keeps society addicted to fossil fuels when we already have the technology to use something better. Capitalists start wars because it's profitable for them.

You're unable to adequately address the issue of advanced automation and artificial intelligence eliminating wage labor, which leads to massive unemployment and social unrest. The only solution is non-profit, socialist production.

Socialism is defined in dictionaries as an economy where business and industry is owned or regulated by the state. Socialism in reality is where it is regulated and that is what those damn capitalists need. A living wage health care daycare paid parental leave cheap college and training great infrastructure and vacations just about covers it. And of course taxing income of the rich more than regular people as has been proved to be necessary to avoid incredible inequality like we have now. Communism is an economy where the business and industry is owned by the state, and that takes a dictator ship to enforce and it doesn't work. Maybe when people don't have to work who knows what's gonna happen LOL...

 

[Soupnazi630]

Because you refuse to pay for something doesn't make it unsustainable.

Raise current FICA taxes
Eliminate upper limit on FICA taxes
reduce FICA taxes by 2% on incomes over $2M

There ya go.

It is unsustainable regarldess of whether people pay for it

The younger generations are increasingly smaller and cannot carry the burden

 

[Soupnazi630]

i'm talking about reality and every socialist party ever in a democracy has been for fair capitalism. Communism doesn't work except as a dictatorship and even then it doesn't work. Marx was basically wrong about everything except that Savage capitalism in the middle of the industrial revolution was not fair. But unions and socialists/progressives forced reforms that brought working class into the middle class. That's the way it better stay, it isn't that way right now because the GOP has been in charge for 50 years. Great society under Johnson gave us a living wage And Medicare and Medicaid- - a dollar 80 in 1968 is like 14-15 dollars now,,,, Then no reform basically until Obamacare, just GOP giveaway to the rich. Communism will work when humans evolve some more LOL....

No you are not

Every english or non english socialist party and person supports tyranny and opposes fair capitalism

 

[themirrorthief]

No you are not

Every english or non english socialist party and person supports tyranny and opposes fair capitalism

and AOC is just a stiupid dumb ass

 

[Dadoalex]

It is unsustainable regarldess of whether people pay for it

The younger generations are increasingly smaller and cannot carry the burden

And...AND

The why doesn't the population shrink?

 

[Ame®icano]

I pay about 22%
30% on income over 10M seems fair.

Tax rates of the rich are already much higher than that.

 

[Soupnazi630]

And...AND

The why doesn't the population shrink?

Because the biggest generationbs are still alive but starting to die off very soon

 

[LuckyDuck]

1) Medicare for all at taxpayer expense = Socialism
2) Housing for all at taxpayer expense = Socialism
3) Federal Jobs for all as taxpayers pay the salaries of subpar employees = Socialism
4) Gun ban = Unconstitutional tyranny = Communism
5) End prisons for violent criminals = Insanity
6) Open borders = Invasions = Unconstitutional insanity
7) Solidarity with Puerto Rico = What the hell is she talking about? It's already an American territory.
8) Climate Change Nonsense = Fearmongering; Power Grab; Tax Hike = Tyranny
9) Clean Campaign Finance = Her one good idea.
10) Higher Ed for All at taxpayer expense = Socialism
11) Women's Rights = Women have had equal rights for decades = Smoke & Mirrors
12) Support LGBTQ+Pedo = Woke ideology straight from the Marxist playbook.
13) Support Seniors = Who the hell ISN'T supporting Seniors? (except for the Dems kicking our Vets out of hotels in exchange for illegal aliens).
14) Curb Wall street = Not a bad idea, but which paid-for politicians will join AOC in the fight?

I just watched a great video on YouTube titled, James Lindsay SHATTERS Woke Ideology: EU Parliament Speech. Dated 3 weeks ago. It gives a clear layout of how Communism has infiltrated the US and by extension, the EU.

 

[TruthNotBS]

I just watched a great video on YouTube titled, James Lindsay SHATTERS Woke Ideology: EU Parliament Speech. Dated 3 weeks ago. It gives a clear layout of how Communism has infiltrated the US and by extension, the EU.

If AOC is a "commie", then Germany and Austria are commie, Switzerland is commie, Norway, Sweden, Denmark and Finland are commie, France is commie, the Netherlands is commie, Spain and Portugal are commie, the UK is commie, among many other countries. Even Taiwan and Japan are commie. It's all "commie", because all of those countries essentially have all of the policies that you detest as right-wingers and accuse AOC and the American Dems of being "commies" for. That's the danger of exaggerating the point, that you don't like AOC's policies, accusing her of being a commie. You turn the whole industrialized world into communist states.

 

[LuckyDuck]

If AOC is a "commie", then Germany and Austria are commie, Switzerland is commie, Norway, Sweden, Denmark and Finland are commie, France is commie, the Netherlands is commie, Spain and Portugal are commie, the UK is commie, among many other countries. Even Taiwan and Japan are commie. It's all "commie", because all of those countries essentially have all of the policies that you detest as right-wingers and accuse AOC and the Dems of being "commies" for. That's the danger of exaggerating the point, that you don't like AOC's policies, accusing her of being a commie. You turn the whole industrialized world into communist states.

The last I checked, I said nothing about AOC. I only suggested watching a very important video. As for AOC, she's just a dimwit.

 

[SaxonJackson]

If AOC is a "commie", then Germany and Austria are commie, Switzerland is commie, Norway, Sweden, Denmark and Finland are commie, France is commie, the Netherlands is commie, Spain and Portugal are commie, the UK is commie, among many other countries. Even Taiwan and Japan are commie. It's all "commie", because all of those countries essentially have all of the policies that you detest as right-wingers and accuse AOC and the American Dems of being "commies" for. That's the danger of exaggerating the point, that you don't like AOC's policies, accusing her of being a commie. You turn the whole industrialized world into communist states.

Not entirely true. AOC is simple minded. The countries of Scandinavia are mostly Capitalist that have implemented a handful of Socialist ideals. If AOC was running the show, we'd be Venezuela.

 

[Dadoalex]

Tax rates of the rich are already much higher than that.

The average billionaire's tax rate is around 8%

Do the rich pay their fair share?

Billionaire wealth and corporate profits have surged. Are they paying their fair share?

www.oxfamamerica.org

 

[TruthNotBS]

Not entirely true. AOC is simple minded. The countries of Scandinavia are mostly Capitalist that have implemented a handful of Socialist ideals. If AOC was running the show, we'd be Venezuela.

Applying the metric that is often used by Republicans in our government and on FOX, those countries I mentioned are Stalinist Communist, waving a red glowing flag with a bright yellow hammer and sickle on it, and all their children are named Marx or Marxina, Lenin and Leninina and Stalin and Stalina.

 

[Dadoalex]

Because the biggest generationbs are still alive but starting to die off very soon

Problem solved, RIGHT?

The MAGAT solution.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Problem solved, RIGHT?

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The MAGAT solution.

Your solution assumes people can live forever

Good luck with that

 

[SaxonJackson]

Applying the metric that is often used by Republicans in our government and on FOX, those countries I mentioned are Stalinist Communist, waving a red glowing flag with a bright yellow hammer and sickle on it, and all their children are named Marx or Marxina, Lenin and Leninina and Stalin and Stalina.

When's the last time the Scandinavian countries starve a huge portion of the population? But you confuse a Social Democracy with Democratic Socialism, which is Bernie Sanders' and AOC's pet project.

The Myth of Scandinavian Socialism

Bernie Sanders shouldn't cite Scandinavia to support his "socialist" interventionism.

fee.org

 

[TruthNotBS]

When's the last time the Scandinavian countries starve a huge portion of the population? But you confuse a Social Democracy with Democratic Socialism, which is Bernie Sanders' and AOC's pet project.

The Myth of Scandinavian Socialism

Bernie Sanders shouldn't cite Scandinavia to support his "socialist" interventionism.

fee.org

Yes, but in view of how absurd the accusations are, where the Republican right-wing so often throws the "communist" label around for people like AOC and Bernie, they would have to place the same ridiculous label on many countries that are clearly not communist or even Marxist by any stretch of the imagination. I'm pointing at the absurdity of it all.

AOC is very wishy-washy when it comes to her "socialism". I see Bernie as a socialist, but not AOC. AOC is what you just said, a "social democrat", infected by the "woke" lunacy. She has a bad case of "wokeness".

As far as starvation being exclusively a symptom of badly managed secular socialism, I would have to disagree. There are plenty of people starving right now under extreme poverty whose governments are run by predatory capitalists. There are many failed states with capitalist economies. When we factor in all of the deaths from capitalist colonialism and imperialism, the mountain of dead rotting corpses is just as high, if not higher than that of the communists. Both economic systems have plenty of carnage under their feet. That's the way of this fallen world. Satan perverted communism through Marxist atheism.

Act 2:42-47 And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers. (43) And fear came upon every soul: and many wonders and signs were done by the apostles. (44) And all that believed were together, and had all things common; (45) And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need. (46) And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart, (47) Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.

Act 4:32-37 And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common. (33) And with great power gave the apostles witness of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus: and great grace was upon them all. (34) Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold, (35) And laid them down at the apostles' feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need. (36) And Joses, who by the apostles was surnamed Barnabas, (which is, being interpreted, The son of consolation,) a Levite, and of the country of Cyprus, (37) Having land, sold it, and brought the money, and laid it at the apostles' feet.

That's the "secret sauce", that modern Christendom is missing. Without it, the church is impotent, unidentifiable, and clownish.

 

[Dadoalex]

Your solution assumes people can live forever

Good luck with that

That's your solution sonny. Turn the country into a dictatorship and kill everyone over 65.
Budget problem solved.

 

[Soupnazi630]

That's your solution sonny. Turn the country into a dictatorship and kill everyone over 65.
Budget problem solved.

I proposed no such solution.