Any debate on global warming now OVER!?

[jc456]

No, I say man has an influence on climate. "Control" is your word, and it's wrong, as it implies total control, which nobody ever claimed.

That is, you're being deliberately dishonest with your words, as usual.

Influence how, and what is the problem? Name it for us!

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Influence how, and what is the problem? Name it for us!

Don't feed the sealions.

 

[jc456]

Here’s a good video on how this all is working

 

[jc456]

Don't feed the sealions.

Interesting what you avoid. I never have thought to do what you do

 

[Robert W]

No, I say man has an influence on climate. "Control" is your word, and it's wrong, as it implies total control, which nobody ever claimed.

That is, you're being deliberately dishonest with your words, as usual.

When I get into my car, I influence if it starts. I influence the car heads down the road. I influence if the car gets me where I want to be. Yet you would tell me I do not control the car!!!! Why do Democrats want to blame man yet tell man he only influences?

 

[Robert W]

Here’s a good video on how this all is working

Homeland is a very good TV production. I don't watch Colbert. Claire Danes did a fantastic job pretending on her production. I call actors pretenders.

 

[abu afak]

When I get into my car, I influence if it starts. I influence the car heads down the road. I influence if the car gets me where I want to be. Yet you would tell me I do not control the car!!!! Why do Democrats want to blame man yet tell man he only influences?

Your car has NO other "influence" but you.
The Climate does. It is influenced by Solar Cycles, Man (billions of men), his emissions/GHGs, his terraforming the planet, Earth's orbit and position and tilt, etc.

Now Go Fukk yorself you 12 IQ Clown.
You're a Disingenuous Piece of shlt.
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[Robert W]

Your car has NO other "influence" but you.
The Climate does. It is influenced by Solar Cycles, Man (billions of men), his emissions/GHGs, his terraforming the planet, Earth's orbit and position and tilt, etc.

Now Go Fukk yorself you 12 IQ Clown.
You're a Disingenuous Piece of shlt.
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My god, this represents Democrats. The filth, the anger, the unwilling to have decent discussions. Notice he attacked me. That is his entire argument.

 

[abu afak]

My god, this represents Democrats. The filth, the anger, the unwilling to have decent discussions. Notice he attacked me. That is his entire argument.

LIAR. I ANSWERED YOU FIRST (3 lines), THEN INSULTED YOU AFTER. (2 lines)
ANY REPLY TO THE MEAT?
NO
JUST TOOK OFFENSE You Empty POS.
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[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I just saw a report on the Weather Channel where it snowed in the Sahara in Algeria for the second year in a row. I thought we were getting warmer?

 

[Robert W]

THEN INSULTED YOU AFTER.

That is what I said you did.

 

[abu afak]

That is what I said you did.

LYING AGAIN!
YOU said that insult ""is his entire argument.""
The Majority was Not.
Lying POS... and my meat still Unaddressed.
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[ReinyDays]

I have questions for YOU: one of the many BS artists posting here.
Your whole life is "Physics dropping"/showing off with meaningless greek letters/formulas.
SO:
1. Is the climate warming?
2. Is man (and his GHGs) contributing to this in a significant or majority degree?
YES OR NO?
3. Optional/dependent: How fast is it warming/melting and what would be "Catastrophic" in that respect?

Despite the fact you must know Man is, you spend all your time BuIIshitting with with tangential Physics formulas and not telling your allies they are wrong and not wanting to be call a "lib"/"Leftist"/"Chicken little."

TIME TO SPEAK UP ON THEE ISSUE BOY.
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College science, see below ... there's nothing catastrophic about 100-year averages ... only 1-minute averages are dangerous ...

Because they're not relevent to how I shot down your albedo theory. They're deflections. But since you insist. ...

But hey, fast warming is defined as being much faster than any natural warming we've seen in the past.


Obviously, no. Why ask such a question, given I've never stated or implied such a crazy thing?


If you can't debate what I actually say, just say so. Don't make up crazy stories about what I supposedly said.


No, we're seeing basically a linear rise, which is what's expected with an exponential rise in CO2.


Why do you think I'm not using SB? I'm just pointing out that the S-B law can't explain the current fast warming, so any theory that attributes temperature change purely to albedo change is obviously wrong.

What's more, Earth's albedo has been getting higher (more reflective) over the years.

The sum of land use changes is for higher albedo. Cropland and desert absorbs less sunlight than forests.

Aerosols have caused a higher albedo.

Clouds have caused a higher albedo.

Your theory states that a higher albedo should cause cooling. Instead, we see fast warming. That means your theory is wrong.

Ah ... you're advocating a Runaway Greenhouse Effect ... you won't say this aloud because you already know science has dismissed this as a possibility ... thus you have to reject Stefan-Boltzmann and albedo and anything else that conflicts with your beliefs ...

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Do either of you know how to read a scientific instrument? ... I notice you never use numbers, just weasel words ... we've seen 1ºC rise over 20th Century average, and that's the absolute limit of accuracy for NOAA thermometers ... and you two are pissing your pants? ...

15ºF in McPherson County, Kansas ... 100 years ago, under the same meteorological conditions, it would have been 13ºF ... ouch ... we should cry for the poor folks living in rural McPherson County, Kansas ... bad enough tornadoes transport them to Oz, now this damnable global warming ... farmers out in the fields in spring two weeks earlier and harvesting two weeks later ... extra food ... crashing prices ... farms go bankrupt ...

It's not like Kansas doesn't have enough problems ...

 

[EMH]

we've seen 1ºC rise over 20th Century average

with ALL of that "warming" coming from surface of growing urban areas and nowhere else.

Earth is not warming. Surface Air Pressure proves it.

 

[abu afak]

Still waiting

Moving this target is deceitful ... my only allowance is to split what temperature data we do have in half ... or two 70-year periods to average, and this gives us two numbers, the later one is slightly higher that the earlier one ... thus slight global warming ... and 1ºC is slight ...

You mentioned the 30-year-average and this will give us global cooling during World War Two and all the rebuilding afterwards ... an obvious counter-example to the main AGW argument ...

Again ... in the scientific media, we have to state our time interval ... or we won't get published ... simple ...

I have questions for YOU: one of the many BS artists posting here.
Your whole life is "Physics dropping"/showing off with meaningless greek letters/formulas.
SO:
1. Is the climate warming?
2. Is man (and his GHGs) contributing to this in a significant or majority degree?
YES OR NO?
3. Optional/dependent: How fast is it warming/melting and what would be "Catastrophic" in that respect?

Despite the fact you must know Man is, you spend all your time BuIIshitting with with tangential Physics formulas and not telling your allies they are wrong and not wanting to be call a "lib"/"Leftist"/"Chicken little."

TIME TO SPEAK UP ON THEE ISSUE BOY.
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[Robert W]

1. Is the climate warming?

It might be. But my question back is will you prove it is a catastrophe?

 

[Robert W]

2. Is man (and his GHGs) contributing to this in a significant or majority degree?
YES OR NO?

It only matters if you prove that warming or GHGs are a catastrophe.

 

[Robert W]

I just saw a report on the Weather Channel where it snowed in the Sahara in Algeria for the second year in a row. I thought we were getting warmer?

We have predictions for another seriously cold period facing us from now on. If we told them how dangerous cold is, would they accept the planet has chilled down?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

We have predictions for another seriously cold period facing us from now on. If we told them how dangerous cold is, would they accept the planet has chilled down?

Only if they were fools who didn't know the difference between weather and climate. Which seems to be the case with many of the posters in this thread.

 

[Robert W]

LYING AGAIN!
YOU said that insult ""is his entire argument.""
The Majority was Not.
Lying POS... and my meat still Unaddressed.
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You specialize in doom and gloom. I hate that kind of argument when what is at issue is Climate. I addressed your dumb ass posts moments ago.