Global Warming or Climate Change?

[westwall]

It's both! Global warming induced climate change.

In the 1950's and '60's when scientists noticed carbon dioxide building up in the atmosphere due to increasing use of fossil fuels they predicted that the atmosphere would begin to warm. They were right.

They then predicted the increasing atmospheric temperatures would lead to more extreme weather events like heat waves, freezes, heavy rain, tornadoes, hurricanes, droughts and floods. Again, they were right.

In 1980 NOAA, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration began recording the data on extreme weather events, those in excess of $1 Billion.

Minimum to maximum per year Total per decade Cost per decade $Billions
1980's. 2 - 7 33. $219
1990's. 3 - 11. 57 $335
2000's 3 - 12. 67 $621
2010's. 7 - 21. 131. $994
2020's. 18 - 28.(5 years). 115. $746
The $ are inflation adjusted.
You can check the data NOAA Climate.org

The science is right and the trend line is devastating, we've gone from a minimum of 2 to a minimum of 18 every year! For the whole decade of the 2020's the losses will easily exceed $100 B. How many billion dollar losses can we sustain before we can't repair fast enough to keep up with new damage? As of 2019 New Orleans still hadn't fully recovered.

The good news is we know what to do and we've made a good start on it.

If you don't care about the Earth, or you don't have kids or enyone else who's future you care about, think about your wallet man! We all pay taxes, even 'you know who' paid $750 in 2016! Do you want your taxes spent on disaster clean up? ( yes, if need be but I can think of better uses)

And of course, if you are the victim of an extreme weather event you may lose everything you've worked for, or even your life!

Climate change disasters can strike anywhere...no where is immune.

Well that's just the facts. Climate change is real and it won't go away on its own .

Ummmm, climate change will never stop.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Ummmm, climate change will never stop.

He knows and doesn’t care. He just wants to continue the chokehold on the economy so the globalists/Marxists can keep people dependent.

 

[wihosa]

Dozens or hundreds of fires at once?

Huh?

The Palisades fire started in dozens or hundreds of places?

Have you been asleep?! There were 60-80 mph winds with 100 mph gusts! The humidity was under 10%! LA Country has had an 1/8" of rain since last June! The fire spread house to house in moments. In minutes the whole neighborhood was a fire storm!.

Brainwashed by billionaires...unplug for a month or two...and you'll be fine!

 

[elektra]

Poorly reasoned ...
CO2 is a clear odorless gas. It is a part of smog

I agree with you once I deleted all your bullshit ( ... indicates text continued but is replaced.)

CO2 equals life, no CO2 means we die.

wihosa repeats what the politicians dictate, not science

 

[wihosa]

He knows and doesn’t care. He just wants to continue the chokehold on the economy so the globalists/Marxists can keep people dependent.

Dude, you've been brainwashed by billionaires...unplug for a month or two.

 

[westwall]

Have you been asleep?! There were 60-80 mph winds with 100 mph gusts! The humidity was under 10%! LA Country has had an 1/8" of rain since last June! The fire spread house to house in moments. In minutes the whole neighborhood was a fire storm!.

Brainwashed by billionaires...unplug for a month or two...and you'll be fine!

Ummmm, for the ignorant, anti science denier, you....socal is a DESERT! It's in perpetual drought. The Santa Ana winds come EVERY year!

Now that the hills have burned, there will be massive rainstorms in the near future that will cause landslides.

That's the LA county cycle.

Been going on for hundreds of thousands of years.

 

[westwall]

Dude, you've been brainwashed by billionaires...unplug for a month or two.

How about you take a science class.

 

[BluesLegend]

When NONE of their dire global warming predictions came true and people laughed at them, they simply changed the name to climate change...then told us really cold winters were because of warming.

 

[elektra]

He knows and doesn’t care. He just wants to continue the chokehold on the economy so the globalists/Marxists can keep people dependent.

CO2 costs California's billions. A dozen eggs cost us $10

AB32 cap and trade, is our CO2 tax.

It is time for Hollywood to wake up. Much of Hollywood just lost their homes. The democrats policies caused these fires. Hollywood is too stupid arrogant egotistical know-it-all pricks to do the right thing.

 

[BluesLegend]

On a brighter note, all the major Dem cities will be destroyed by climate change. When the next ice age arrives NY will be ground flat to bedrock, again for example.

 

[BluesLegend]

Have you been asleep?! There were 60-80 mph winds with 100 mph gusts!

OMG the wind blew, like is has for the past 10,000 years.

 

[elektra]

Now that the hills have burned, there will be massive rainstorms in the near future that will cause landslides.

Here is a picture of what you described

 

[wihosa]

I agree with you once I deleted all your bullshit ( ... indicates text continued but is replaced.)

CO2 equals life, no CO2 means we die.

wihosa repeats what the politicians

Dude, you've been brainwashed by billionaires...unplug for a month or two.

Ummmm, for the ignorant, anti science denier, you....socal is a DESERT! It's in perpetual drought. The Santa Ana winds come EVERY year!

Now that the hills have burned, there will be massive rainstorms in the near future that will cause landslides.

That's the LA county cycle.

Been going on for hundreds of thousands of years.

Well actually LA County is a semi-desert averaging 14.5" of rain per year over the last 30 years. 2022 with 24" and 2023 with 22"were wet years in LA,
Your right we get Santa Ana's every year but usually in the fall. I've been here my whole life and I don't remember winds being any stronger than what we had on January 7.

Mud slides much more likely in the Alta Dena area, more brush burned and higher steeper mountains

You've been brainwashed by billionaires...unplug for a couple months.

 

[elektra]

OMG the wind blew, like is has for the past 10,000 years.

Yes but, be fair, democrats are too stupid to remember the last time, 10 months ago.

 

[elektra]

Your right we get Santa Ana's every year but usually in the fall. I've been here my whole life and I don't remember winds being any stronger than Jan 7th.

Well Mr Brain, you say we had Santa Ana winds last fall so you only had to retain that memory of high winds a month and a half.

like I said, democrats are too stupid to remember 10 months, but I got proved wrong by the half wit democrat wihosa who can't remember 2 months ago let alone 10

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Dude, you've been brainwashed by billionaires...unplug for a month or two.

Dude, why do billionaires want to burn down their own houses?

 

[wihosa]

OMG the wind blew, like is has for the past 10,000 years.

You ever been in 60-80 mph winds with gusts to 100? Try spraying a hose in that!
And rain has been falling in the mountains of North Carolina for millions of years but when a hurricane drops rain in extreme amounts Asheville gets washed away.

 

[wihosa]

Dude, why do billionaires want to burn down their own houses?

Who said that?

 

[elektra]

Well actually LA County is a semi-desert averaging 14.5" of rain per year over the last 30 years. 2022 with 24" and 2023 with 22"were wet years in LA,

Well half wit, what does rainfall have to do with my comment that you need co2 to live

 

[wihosa]

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Here is a picture of what you described

After the 2005 slide geologists discovered there was an earthquake fault that contributed to the disaster. A previous slide in '95 was thought to be solely from the 38" of rain that season, more than double the norm of 14.8