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A "militant atheist" is an atheist who is openly and aggressively critical of religion, viewing it as harmful and actively working to diminish its influence, often contrasting with quieter atheists; the term implies hostility and a desire to challenge religious authority, though many argue it's unfairly applied to non-believers who simply refuse to be silent or respectfully defer to religious viewpoints. The term can also refer to actual oppressive state atheism, like in the Soviet Union, which used force to suppress religion.

Common Connotations & Usage
    • Vocal Opposition:
      Anyone who speaks out against religion or questions religious authority in a culture where it's expected to be challenged.
    • Anti-Theism:
      Believing religion is dangerous and actively fighting against it, rather than just lacking belief.

    • Desire for Suppression:
      In some definitions, it implies a wish to see religion suppressed by force.
Distinctions
    • Not all atheists:
      Most atheists are not "militant"; they simply lack belief or don't believe there's enough evidence for God.
    • Not necessarily violent:
      While the term suggests violence, it's often used for non-violent speech, unlike historical examples of state-sponsored militant atheism.
Examples (Historical/Contextual)
    • Political Regimes: Leaders in the Soviet Union who used force to eliminate religion.
    • New Atheists: Figures from the "New Atheist" movement who actively argue against religion's societal role.
You're trying to compare those who don't think our society should be ruled by religious belief with the leaders of the Soviet Union? I knew you were out there, but I didn't know you were out that far.
 
A militant theist doe the same to those who disbelieve.
Not according to it’s definition.

A militant theist is someone who aggressively promotes their religious beliefs, often using combative, confrontational, or even violent methods, viewing themselves as soldiers in a spiritual war against perceived enemies like secularism or other faiths, going beyond simple faith to actively enforce or spread their doctrine through forceful means, sometimes drawing parallels to historical movements like the Crusades or political actions like those of Christian nationalists.
 
You're trying to compare those who don't think our society should be ruled by religious belief with the leaders of the Soviet Union? I knew you were out there, but I didn't know you were out that far.
I don’t know anybody who thinks our society should be ruled by religious belief. But I do see a lot of atheists posting here who condemn respect for people of faith.
 
Not according to it’s definition.

A militant theist is someone who aggressively promotes their religious beliefs, often using combative, confrontational, or even violent methods, viewing themselves as soldiers in a spiritual war against perceived enemies like secularism or other faiths, going beyond simple faith to actively enforce or spread their doctrine through forceful means, sometimes drawing parallels to historical movements like the Crusades or political actions like those of Christian nationalists.
Where do you get that definition?
 
Where do you get that definition?
Google. You’d probably call them evangelicals or fundamentalists which I am decidedly neither.

You were probably a militant theist when you were supposedly a deacon. Because you sure as hell didn’t understand the OT accounts in Genesis to be anything less.
 
I don’t know anybody who thinks our society should be ruled by religious belief. But I do see a lot of atheists posting here who condemn respect for people of faith.
As opposed to trump party which condemns respect for a wide range of groups baser on religious beliefs
Right wing goals based exclusively on religious beliefs.
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Right wing goals based exclusively on religious beliefs.
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  • Abortion is a human rights issue.
  • Sexual orientation is not a class of people, it’s a preference.
  • Everyone has a constitutional right to their religion.
  • Raise your kids however you want.
  • Israel is a sovereign nation.
  • The Constitution defines the form of government
  • And science is great. I know a great deal more science than you do.

See? No religion needed.
 
Not according to it’s definition.

A militant theist is someone who aggressively promotes their religious beliefs, often using combative, confrontational, or even violent methods, viewing themselves as soldiers in a spiritual war against perceived enemies like secularism or other faiths, going beyond simple faith to actively enforce or spread their doctrine through forceful means, sometimes drawing parallels to historical movements like the Crusades or political actions like those of Christian nationalists.
Claiming they don't need proof because "they know it is true". Prattling bullshit expecting everyone to take them at their word.
 
Claiming they don't need proof because "they know it is true". Prattling bullshit expecting everyone to take them at their word.
I have proof. It’s all around me and in me. You don’t accept it and I’m good with that. I couldn’t imagine how horrible life would be thinking I was all alone.
 
  • Abortion is a human rights issue.
  • Sexual orientation is not a class of people, it’s a preference.
  • Everyone has a constitutional right to their religion.
  • Raise your kids however you want.
  • Israel is a sovereign nation.
  • The Constitution defines the form of government
  • And science is great. I know a great deal more science than you do.

See? No religion needed.
All based in religious beliefs regardless of your attempt to show different.
 
I have proof. It’s all around me and in me. You don’t accept it and I’m good with that. I couldn’t imagine how horrible life would be thinking I was all alone.
why are you here then? You aren't open to dissuasion and you aren't willing to provide proof to persuade.
 
Claiming they don't need proof because "they know it is true". Prattling bullshit expecting everyone to take them at their word.

Our proof is the written Word of God, the Bible. 'Thus saith the LORD'.

I don't expect everyone to believe it. Just the opposite. I know most will not.

Nor am I upset with those who don't believe. I expect that.

Yet, you atheists are upset because we Christians do believe. Thus you try and malign, mock, and discredit our faith.

What a work God has done in making 'faith' the demarcation revealing those who are of God and those who are not.

Nothing divides like Jesus Christ. And the Bible is all about Jesus Christ.

Quantrill
 
Our proof is the written Word of God, the Bible. 'Thus saith the LORD'.

I don't expect everyone to believe it. Just the opposite. I know most will not.

Nor am I upset with those who don't believe. I expect that.

Yet, you atheists are upset because we Christians do believe. Thus you try and malign, mock, and discredit our faith.

What a work God has done in making 'faith' the demarcation revealing those who are of God and those who are not.

Nothing divides like Jesus Christ. And the Bible is all about Jesus Christ.

Quantrill
Believe what you want. Just quit pushing your beliefs on others.
 
Believe what you want. Just quit pushing your beliefs on others.

Where have I pushed my beliefs on others?

What a hypocrite. This is the religious section. You come over here to ***** and moan about Christians faith and then tell me to quit pushing my beliefs.

Perhaps you need to call your 'atheism' a religion. After all, it is your 'faith'.

Go ahead and create a thread for you and your fellow atheists, designated for 'atheists only'. Then if any believers go over there you can legitimately tell them to quit pushing their beliefs. And all you atheists can enjoy such sweet fellowship with each other and bash God, the Bible, and Jesus Christ to your hearts content.

Quantrill
 
Believe what you want. Just quit pushing your beliefs on others.
The word 'belief' is rooted in what is valued and trusted. "I believe in you..." translates as I value and trust you and what you are doing. Those who believe in God value and trust in what He is doing. In many cases, God is not given some value, but has been given the greatest value. Nothing has a higher value.

As far as pushing beliefs on others: Isn't it usually the case that those who believe in God are merely pushing/volleying back when someone pushes to devalue God? On the other side, personally I am adamantly against those who threaten non-believers with hell. There is no point to that, and I do consider that trying to push a belief on others.

Perhaps the middle ground is for one side to not devalue what another has, and for the other side to stop saying anything resembling a threat.
 
Where have I pushed my beliefs on others?

What a hypocrite. This is the religious section. You come over here to ***** and moan about Christians faith and then tell me to quit pushing my beliefs.

Perhaps you need to call your 'atheism' a religion. After all, it is your 'faith'.

Go ahead and create a thread for you and your fellow atheists, designated for 'atheists only'. Then if any believers go over there you can legitimately tell them to quit pushing their beliefs. And all you atheists can enjoy such sweet fellowship with each other and bash God, the Bible, and Jesus Christ to your hearts content.

Quantrill
Believe what you choose, You don't realize that the right wing demands to have your religion pushed on non believers is unreasonable? State requirements for the 10 commandments displayed in every class, Oklahoma also required a bible to be in every class, and taught from. Opposition to gay rights, Banned books, and a host of other issues are purely religion based. Quit whining about being oppressed. You are the oppressor.
 
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The word 'belief' is rooted in what is valued and trusted. "I believe in you..." translates as I value and trust you and what you are doing. Those who believe in God value and trust in what He is doing. In many cases, God is not given some value, but has been given the greatest value. Nothing has a higher value.

As far as pushing beliefs on others: Isn't it usually the case that those who believe in God are merely pushing/volleying back when someone pushes to devalue God? On the other side, personally I am adamantly against those who threaten non-believers with hell. There is no point to that, and I do consider that trying to push a belief on others.

Perhaps the middle ground is for one side to not devalue what another has, and for the other side to stop saying anything resembling a threat.
Got it. You religious nuts demand nonbelievers value your beliefs when, in fact we see no value in them. It's perfectly right for you to demand and receive tolerance for your beliefs but it's absurd to demand we value what we see as having no value. You have unquestionable freedom of your religion. Others have unquestionable freedom from your religion.
 
Got it. You religious nuts demand nonbelievers value your beliefs when, in fact we see no value in them. It's perfectly right for you to demand and receive tolerance for your beliefs but it's absurd to demand we value what we see as having no value. You have unquestionable freedom of your religion. Others have unquestionable freedom from religion.
Place 'demand' aside and contemplate respect. I see no tolerance and no respect coming from you. There are atheists in my family...and not one of them has ever joined a religion forum to speak out against religion. All respect me and my beliefs, and I understand and respect their lack of belief.

Perhaps tell us who it was that forced his/her beliefs on you, how they did it, and why no one stopped them.
 
Place 'demand' aside and contemplate respect. I see no tolerance and no respect coming from you. There are atheists in my family...and not one of them has ever joined a religion forum to speak out against religion. All respect me and my beliefs, and I understand and respect their lack of belief.

Perhaps tell us who it was that forced his/her beliefs on you, how they did it, and why no one stopped them.
Maybe the fact that this thread pops up on what's New.
 
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