An Honest, Bi-Partisan Look at the 2016 Presidential Election Candidates

[easyt65]

No, stupid is to not realize that you are contradicting your own arguments, and to continue going on, and on, and on, obsessively in love with Trump!

No 'stupid' is calling a man with a 156 IQ ("Genius") 'not intelligent' when the current Liberal President has an IQ of 102 ('AVERAGE'), making him the dumbest President in US History.

For someone who self-proclaimed he is a 'genius', probably smarter than Trump (even though his IQ makes him smarter than 99.99% of the people on the planet), you are proving otherwise.[/

 

[rdean]

2016 Presidential Election Candidates: Off-The-Top-Of-Your-Head Analysis

GOP:

DONALD TRUMP:
Donald Trump is the epitome of the US Success Story, a story consisting of all the good AND bad that goes along with it. He is intelligent, driven, a manipulator, a narcissist, says what ever he feels, and is far more liberal than he makes out to be - flashes of that shown when he talks about being for a path to citizenship, eminent domain, etc. He is a self-promoter and is always 'in it' for personal gain above anything else. He will do just about anything to be seen as 'one of the people', from professing to have faith to professing to be a die-hard Conservative. Much like Obama, to be a success in business, he has learned to be all things to all people and how to motivate & manipulate. Besides Jeb Bush, he is the next best thing to a 'career politician' for the GOP. He is seen as a 'renegade' who does not care what anyone says - he says and does whatever he wants, which has attracted people....though those same people don't seem to see that he is the same type of man we have had for 7 years, just claiming to be in a different party.

Trump is a "TV" personality. The worlds biggest panderer. Married three times to immigrants a half his age or less, suddenly finds sanctity in marriage. He is nothing like Obama. Again and again Republicans have agreed to work with Obama and then when it came time for a vote, they burned him. I don't believe any president in US history has been treated as bad as Obama. Republicans will vainly insist Bush was mistreated. But after 9/11, but was the most popular president in history. Democrats didn't take him down, that was the fault of failed GOP policies like the deficit creating Bush Tax Cut for the wealthy, Iraq, WMD's, Brownie, what happened after Katrina, the justice dept fiasco, all the scientists who quit and so on. Obama did what he had to after being targeted by Republicans the day before he was even sworn in. The GOP said what it was going to do and they did it. How that's Obama's fault is a mystery. Trump is no renegade. He is a snake oil salesman who ran for president for fun and suddenly found himself in first place as the front runner. He has no plan, no vision and no policies.

BEN CARSON
Self-made success story, brain-surgeon, extremely intelligent man; Christian; soft-spoken; NOT much experience being a 'politician' - meaning he often says what he thinks instead of calculating everything carefully before he speaks - like the more polished 'career politicians', leaving himself open to criticism. An honest man, probably making him the biggest 'outsider' in the race. He is NOT 'well-rounded', meaning he would need to choose his Cabinet wisely if elected...and is he TOO soft-spoken?

I don't know what to say about this guy. I don't know which is worse. The dishonesty or the craziness. First, he said he never worked with fetal tissue and his own records prove that to me untrue. Then the nonsense about the Holocaust and if the Jews had guns it never would have happened. That insults the Jews in so many ways I wouldn't know where to begin. Then there's his deranged views on Science. Remember, Republicans started NASA. What happened? This idea that science is a faith and should be level with religious dogma is insane. No further comment on this subject.

CARLY FIORINA:
Successful business woman who has broken through glass ceilings; advisor to John McCain's Presidential campaign in 2008 so no stranger to politics, and Un-successful challenger to Barbara Boxer's seat - still pulling in 42% of the vote...so she is not AS much as an 'outsider' as she claims to be; partial draw as '1st female President' potential, seen as 'more trustworthy' than Hillary.

Successful and trustworthy? She lied about the Planned Parenthood videos. She just about took down two companies all by herself. She destroyed tens of thousands of jobs. The company she worked at paid her tens of millions to just go away. Her first husband says terrible things about her and she used her step-daughter for political purposes. This woman is both sleek and inept. A very dangerous combination.

JEB BUSH:
Let's be honest - Jeb Bush is THE GOP 'Washington Establishment' candidate (strike one), and he is another BUSH, seen as a 'dynasty candidate', someone who thinks It is HIS TURN (strike 2). He is more Liberal than Conservative, as shown by him having declared that he is for Amnesty and pretty much everything else going on right now regarding illegal immigration (pro-sanctuary cities, pro-path to citizenship, not highly in favor of enforcing all existing immigration laws, etc...) When asked what his platform would be, his 1st words were nothing to do about helping Americans or America - it was to help and address the status of illegals...demonstrating he has not / is not listening to Americans and - like other politicians - don't care what they have to say because he has his own agenda (Strike 3). He also just proved he has no problem lying to Americans, especially about stupid stuff, as he lied about reorganizing and cutting back his staff because he is almost out of money. If he will lie about the small stuff, he will lie about much bigger things.

*** The other GOP candidates really aren't worth serious mention as, at most, they are running for consideration as 'VP'

Funny, I think he is more conservative than his brother. The first Jeb term would the the third Dubya term. They have all the save exact people.

HILLARY CLINTON:
THE quintessential 'career politician' and 'Washington Insider in this election: 1st Lady, Senator, Secretary of State, an d now running for President. She also un-deniably carries more baggage with her than any other candidate. Despite her many scandals she still commands much loyalty. The on-going Benghazi investigation, for example, and the evidence which revealed that Hillary most definitely lied about the terrorist attack being a protest over a video and the on-going FBI investigation into her State Department E-mails and potential violations of the law regarding the handling of classified material has done nothing to cause support for her to waiver among Liberals Democrats. Polls do show, however, that Americans consider her to be the least trustworthy candidate in the entire race.

Mrs. Clinton has been attacked by Republicans since her husband was governor. Look at Benghazi, even Republicans are admitting it's goal is to bring down Hillary. They don't care about people working in US embassies. It's why the GOP slashed security at US embassies just before the Benghazi attack. And then quickly restored it once the press caught on. If you aren't charged with anything and you aren't convicted of anything, then it isn't a scandal. It's a conspiracy. Fast and Furious is one of the most ridiculous conspiracies I have ever read about and yet it still makes more sense than most of the so called Clinton scandals.

BERNIE SANDERS:
Although he is known as the longest serving 'independent' politician serving in Congress, Bernie is an openly, extremely public member of the Socialist Party and is running for President as a member of the Democratic Party. He is a former mayor of 2 terms before being elected to Congress; however, 'Socialist' is all you really need to know about Sanders, as it explains about everything there is to know about the man's ideology and political agenda / ideas.

Bernie has limited appeal because he keeps saying he's a socialist. Republicans can really use that to jin up and terrorize their base.

 

[SwimExpert]

Mr. Trump has a 156 IQ at the minimum. The standard description of this level of intelligence is “Genius – Exceptional intellectual ability and capable of looking beyond known facts.” However, the percentile rating is more revealing than the raw score. A 156 IQ is at the 99.9905490555 percentile. That means that Donald Trump is smarter than 99.99 percent of the people on planet earth. Not only does Trump qualify for membership in Mensa but he could join the Triple Nine Society.

LINK: Donald Trump is a Genius – But That’s Just His IQ! | Opinion - Conservative

BY COMPARISON:

President Obama Scores 102 On IQ Test, Lowest In Presidential History
LINK: President Obama Scores 102 On IQ Test, Lowest In Presidential History | Empire News

"As it turns out, the Republicans may have been right all along, and President Obama is not the smartest person in the room after all. Since Woodrow Wilson took office in 1913, all presidents have been given an IQ test at some point during their time as leader. Gerald Ford always held the record for lowest score, with a 111, which is considered just slightly above average. On the other end of the spectrum, George W. Bush scored a 132, which is considered ‘gifted.’ Two-Thirds of people who take the standardized IQ test score between 85-115.

The White House today spun President Obama’s 102 as a ‘solid' AVERAGE that is nothing to be ashamed of."


102....a solid 'average'!

Jimmy Carter thanks Obama for being the WORST President in US History now ... and Gerald Ford thanks Obama for being the DUMBEST President in US history now!

Yeah, I'm really going to believe some lunatic blogger making unsubstantiated claims about Trump's IQ, who also has these headlines elsewhere on the sight:

Planet X Nibiru Crop Circles Tell Arrival Date & Its Not Good News | Space
Reptilian Alien Captured on CCTV Shapeshifting to Our Dimension The Best Catch Ever | Paranormal
A senior member of the Illuminati breaks his silence for the first time. | Blogging/Citizen Journalism
Forget About Bigfoot, The Dogman Sounds Even More Terrifying (Video) | Paranormal
Woman Talks About The Amazing Bigfoot Recording She Got In Oklahoma (Video) | Paranormal

 

[SwimExpert]

So you understand that illegal aliens ought to be entitled to work wherever they want. That's what free movement of labor and capital means, right?

Oh no, you're off the reservation with that nonsense. That's like saying that freedom to keep and bear arms means you have the right to own and fly an F-16 fighter jet anytime you want.

I wonder if you would support free capital establishing and operating Meth lab for street distribution. No? I guess there's limitations to free movement of capital in your world after all.

 

[CremeBrulee]

her many scandals

'Socialist' is all you really need to know about Sanders

too much of a self/party-serving, ME-1st career politician

GOP 'Washington Establishment' candidate (strike one)

Obama has already relayed to the DOJ they will be doing NOTHING no matter what the FBI claims to find.

...and many more. Clearly a bipartisan analysis.

CB, are you saying Hillary does NOT have any scandals in her past or on-going at this moment?
-- yeah, didn't think you were.

CB, are you saying Bernie Sanders is NOT a 'Socialist' and that anything anyone can say about him is going to matter more than that? Even Democrats have declared he is un-electable BECAUSE HE IS AN ADMITTED SOCIALIST.
- Yeah, I didn't think you were saying that.

CB, are your HONESTLY saying Hillary is not all about 'ME' and the 'DNC'? Lying to America about Benghazi to protect herself, multiple e-mail accounts so no one could keep track of what she was doing - and lying about it, and even going through Vince Foster's police-taped office to gather files to ensure anything negative was destroyed - those files being found with her fingerprints all over them yet her denying having seen them...REALLY?!
- Yeah, I didn't think you were saying that.

CB, are you suggesting Jeb Bush is NOT a 'Washington Establishment / Insider' candidate? He and Hillary are 'dynasty' candidates...you can't get much more 'Inside' than that.
- Yeah, I didn't think you were really saying that.

CB, are you saying by Obama declaring he saw no illegal activity regarding Hillary's e-mail scandal WHILE the FBI is still investigating was not a declaration that they will take no action against Hillary no matter what? Eric Holder was busted for perpetrating 3 Felony Counts of Perjury before Congress and was protected from justice / punishment. Obama ensured no charges were filed...and with Hillary being the only legitimate candidate the DNC has do you REALLY think Obama will have his DOJ take her out of the race by filing charges?
- Yeah, I didn't think you were saying that...

So what was your post / point again?

Bernie Sanders: Senator from Vermont
for universal healthcare, raising the minimum wage, higher taxes, pro choice
against DOMA, Citizens United, "too big to fail"
son of a Jewish immigrant from Poland
his father's family was killed in the Holocaust
Granted that's just a snippet of who he is and what he is for. You give us "He is a Socialist. That's all you need to know."

Jeb Bush: Formerly Governor of Florida
son and brother to previous Presidents
for lower taxes, immigration reform, increased border security, death penalty
against abortion after 20 weeks, regulation, Affirmative Action
etc
You tell us he is a politician (bad), feels entitled to the Presidency, more Liberal than Conservative, his priority is helping illegals, and a liar.

I particularly enjoyed the parts where you extolled Mr. Trump for his ability to "be a success in business, he has learned to be all things to all people and how to motivate & manipulate," a quality that people praise him for but criticize President Obama for having; which you do in the very same sentence. Governor Bush gets a "strike three" for another virtue of Mr. Trump and Dr. Carson: speaking their mind. How come Governor Bush is a "liar," "doesn't care," and has his own "agenda" (sounds nefarious) for discussing immigration reform but the others don't? Your post bleeds libertarian watchwords and phrases, especially when you refer to the candidates you are against: "Washington Establishment," "outsider," "Socialist,"career politician," "baggage," "liar," so on and so forth. That's all fine though, even interesting, until the claim of bipartisanship. Where is the common ground and compromise? Not exactly an unbiased "look" at 2016.

 

[Arizona Willie]

her many scandals

'Socialist' is all you really need to know about Sanders

too much of a self/party-serving, ME-1st career politician

GOP 'Washington Establishment' candidate (strike one)

Obama has already relayed to the DOJ they will be doing NOTHING no matter what the FBI claims to find.

...and many more. Clearly a bipartisan analysis.

CB, are you saying Hillary does NOT have any scandals in her past or on-going at this moment?
-- yeah, didn't think you were.

CB, are you saying Bernie Sanders is NOT a 'Socialist' and that anything anyone can say about him is going to matter more than that? Even Democrats have declared he is un-electable BECAUSE HE IS AN ADMITTED SOCIALIST.
- Yeah, I didn't think you were saying that.

CB, are your HONESTLY saying Hillary is not all about 'ME' and the 'DNC'? Lying to America about Benghazi to protect herself, multiple e-mail accounts so no one could keep track of what she was doing - and lying about it, and even going through Vince Foster's police-taped office to gather files to ensure anything negative was destroyed - those files being found with her fingerprints all over them yet her denying having seen them...REALLY?!
- Yeah, I didn't think you were saying that.

CB, are you suggesting Jeb Bush is NOT a 'Washington Establishment / Insider' candidate? He and Hillary are 'dynasty' candidates...you can't get much more 'Inside' than that.
- Yeah, I didn't think you were really saying that.

CB, are you saying by Obama declaring he saw no illegal activity regarding Hillary's e-mail scandal WHILE the FBI is still investigating was not a declaration that they will take no action against Hillary no matter what? Eric Holder was busted for perpetrating 3 Felony Counts of Perjury before Congress and was protected from justice / punishment. Obama ensured no charges were filed...and with Hillary being the only legitimate candidate the DNC has do you REALLY think Obama will have his DOJ take her out of the race by filing charges?
- Yeah, I didn't think you were saying that...

So what was your post / point again?

Bernie Sanders: Senator from Vermont
for universal healthcare, raising the minimum wage, higher taxes, pro choice
against DOMA, Citizens United, "too big to fail"
son of a Jewish immigrant from Poland
his father's family was killed in the Holocaust
Granted that's just a snippet of who he is and what he is for. You give us "He is a Socialist. That's all you need to know."

Jeb Bush: Formerly Governor of Florida
son and brother to previous Presidents
for lower taxes, immigration reform, increased border security, death penalty
against abortion after 20 weeks, regulation, Affirmative Action
etc
You tell us he is a politician (bad), feels entitled to the Presidency, more Liberal than Conservative, his priority is helping illegals, and a liar.

I particularly enjoyed the parts where you extolled Mr. Trump for his ability to "be a success in business, he has learned to be all things to all people and how to motivate & manipulate," a quality that people praise him for but criticize President Obama for having; which you do in the very same sentence. Governor Bush gets a "strike three" for another virtue of Mr. Trump and Dr. Carson: speaking their mind. How come Governor Bush is a "liar," "doesn't care," and has his own "agenda" (sounds nefarious) for discussing immigration reform but the others don't? Your post bleeds libertarian watchwords and phrases, especially when you refer to the candidates you are against: "Washington Establishment," "outsider," "Socialist,"career politician," "baggage," "liar," so on and so forth. That's all fine though, even interesting, until the claim of bipartisanship. Where is the common ground and compromise? Not exactly an unbiased "look" at 2016.[/QUOTE
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The OP's post was laden with right wing words.

In no way could it be construed to be HONEST NON-PARTISAN.

He didn't use many of the usual rightwingers curse words " libtard " etc. but his words are all direct from right wing Fox News talking points ... just some of the more radical words replaced by milder phrases that carry the same meaning ... minus insulting nature.

He posted like Willliam F. Buckley used to talk.

Buckley could tell you to go fuck yourself and you would think he was complimenting you.
This guy demonstrates some of the same talent.

 

[easyt65]

OK CB you said where you THINK I am wrong....hit me with some facts and links to prove what I got wrong. I would like to know and read for myself.

I am waiting (have been) for anyone to post some facts and links about anyone on the list to prove anything other than what I wrote. Instead all I have gotten is OPINION that I am wrong, I am 'this', or I am 'that'. Somebody give me more than just OPINION..

 

[CremeBrulee]

OK CB you said where you THINK I am wrong....hit me with some facts and links to prove what I got wrong. I would like to know and read for myself.

I am waiting (have been) for anyone to post some facts and links about anyone on the list to prove anything other than what I wrote. Instead all I have gotten is OPINION that I am wrong, I am 'this', or I am 'that'. Somebody give me more than just OPINION..

I'm not saying what you wrote was wrong, it's just not bipartisan/unbiased.

 

[SwimExpert]

OK CB you said where you THINK I am wrong....hit me with some facts and links to prove what I got wrong. I would like to know and read for myself.

I am waiting (have been) for anyone to post some facts and links about anyone on the list to prove anything other than what I wrote. Instead all I have gotten is OPINION that I am wrong, I am 'this', or I am 'that'. Somebody give me more than just OPINION..

So, opinion is good enough for you to post, no matter how ridiculous. But everyone else needs to post peer reviewed scientific findings?

 

[easyt65]

So, opinion is good enough for you to post, no matter how ridiculous. But everyone else needs to post peer reviewed scientific findings?

Actually almost everything I got on each candidate was taken from their own bios and from a 'review' / 'quick over-view' I found on-line. Very little was actually 'me'.

 

[easyt65]

Great post, rdean.

 

[HenryBHough]

Continuing my assignment in Northern England:

Many think Hillary is already president.

Those who know better fear Trump.

Mosr cannot name any other candidate of any party!

The few who have heard of Nutty Old Uncle Bernie think of him as a moderate but can be confused as they compare him to their flaming, communist leaning Jeremy Corbyn. They DO have a point.

Ran across a very few in each of four cities who had heard of the others and think Republicans could win with Rubio and Carson but it would be better were one or the other transgendered or, at least, gay. Then Democrats would HAVE to vote GOP or be branded by their peers as both intolerant and racist and, oh yeah, anti-Hispanic.

They weren't joking but admitted to raw cynicism.

Writing from a pub in a small city near Harrogate.

 

[The Rabbi]

So you understand that illegal aliens ought to be entitled to work wherever they want. That's what free movement of labor and capital means, right?

Oh no, you're off the reservation with that nonsense. That's like saying that freedom to keep and bear arms means you have the right to own and fly an F-16 fighter jet anytime you want.

I wonder if you would support free capital establishing and operating Meth lab for street distribution. No? I guess there's limitations to free movement of capital in your world after all.

Free movement of labor does not mean people can move to take jobs?
Obviously you do NOT understand what free movement of labor and capital means.

 

[SwimExpert]

Free movement of labor does not mean people can move to take jobs?

No, it does not. It means that Americans can work anywhere in the country they want to work. And that illegal aliens are free to go down in the Pacific.

 

[rdean]

U.S. Presidential IQ hoax - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Intelligence Quotient (IQ) and Browser Usage, another IQ-related Internet hoax, this time claiming low IQs for users of Internet Explorer 6.

Republicans and their hoaxes.

 

[LoneLaugher]

Bipartisan......meaning he OP will give his opinion about both party's candidates?

Why do nutters always fail to properly evaluate their own motives?