America's Christian Heritage

[Mudda]

So the pedophile priests get a pass from you again?

No, they are in prison. The other 4500 or so were homosexuals like yourself. Do they get a pass from you?

Nothing wrong with homosexuals, nature is full of them.

Yes, they are part of nature. So what? Do the 4500 priests who "fooled around" with young adults get a pass from you? You should look at the data from the John Jay report. I have.

Pedophiles don't get a pass from me, but they do get a pass from the Catholic church.
Got a link to the report?

But homosexual priests who break their vow do, right?

Yes, I have a link to the "John Jay Report."

Nothing wrong with homosexual priests if it's between adults. And it shows that their vows are bullshit.
So where's your link?

 

[ding]

No, they are in prison. The other 4500 or so were homosexuals like yourself. Do they get a pass from you?

Nothing wrong with homosexuals, nature is full of them.

Yes, they are part of nature. So what? Do the 4500 priests who "fooled around" with young adults get a pass from you? You should look at the data from the John Jay report. I have.

Pedophiles don't get a pass from me, but they do get a pass from the Catholic church.
Got a link to the report?

But homosexual priests who break their vow do, right?

Yes, I have a link to the "John Jay Report."

Nothing wrong with homosexual priests if it's between adults. And it shows that their vows are bullshit.
So where's your link?

Is 16 an adult?

You do know how to use google, right?

It does seem to show that vows are bullshit to homosexuals.

 

[Mudda]

Nothing wrong with homosexuals, nature is full of them.

Yes, they are part of nature. So what? Do the 4500 priests who "fooled around" with young adults get a pass from you? You should look at the data from the John Jay report. I have.

Pedophiles don't get a pass from me, but they do get a pass from the Catholic church.
Got a link to the report?

But homosexual priests who break their vow do, right?

Yes, I have a link to the "John Jay Report."

Nothing wrong with homosexual priests if it's between adults. And it shows that their vows are bullshit.
So where's your link?

Is 16 an adult?

You do know how to use google, right?

It does seem to show that vows are bullshit to homosexuals.

Check with your jurisdiction for age, it varies.

Vows are bullshit for everyone. No sex, it's just not healthy. And doesn't work. The Catholic church is proof of that.

 

[ding]

Yes, they are part of nature. So what? Do the 4500 priests who "fooled around" with young adults get a pass from you? You should look at the data from the John Jay report. I have.

Pedophiles don't get a pass from me, but they do get a pass from the Catholic church.
Got a link to the report?

But homosexual priests who break their vow do, right?

Yes, I have a link to the "John Jay Report."

Nothing wrong with homosexual priests if it's between adults. And it shows that their vows are bullshit.
So where's your link?

Is 16 an adult?

You do know how to use google, right?

It does seem to show that vows are bullshit to homosexuals.

Check with your jurisdiction for age, it varies.

Vows are bullshit for everyone. No sex, it's just not healthy. And doesn't work. The Catholic church is proof of that.

You never took any vows of fidelity?

 

[Mudda]

Pedophiles don't get a pass from me, but they do get a pass from the Catholic church.
Got a link to the report?

But homosexual priests who break their vow do, right?

Yes, I have a link to the "John Jay Report."

Nothing wrong with homosexual priests if it's between adults. And it shows that their vows are bullshit.
So where's your link?

Is 16 an adult?

You do know how to use google, right?

It does seem to show that vows are bullshit to homosexuals.

Check with your jurisdiction for age, it varies.

Vows are bullshit for everyone. No sex, it's just not healthy. And doesn't work. The Catholic church is proof of that.

You never took any vows of fidelity?

Nope. Anyways it's not a vow of fidelity to not have sex at all, it's a vow of insanity.

 

[ding]

But homosexual priests who break their vow do, right?

Yes, I have a link to the "John Jay Report."

Nothing wrong with homosexual priests if it's between adults. And it shows that their vows are bullshit.
So where's your link?

Is 16 an adult?

You do know how to use google, right?

It does seem to show that vows are bullshit to homosexuals.

Check with your jurisdiction for age, it varies.

Vows are bullshit for everyone. No sex, it's just not healthy. And doesn't work. The Catholic church is proof of that.

You never took any vows of fidelity?

Nope. Anyways it's not a vow of fidelity to not have sex at all, it's a vow of insanity.

I'm not surprised.

 

[Mudda]

Nothing wrong with homosexual priests if it's between adults. And it shows that their vows are bullshit.
So where's your link?

Is 16 an adult?

You do know how to use google, right?

It does seem to show that vows are bullshit to homosexuals.

Check with your jurisdiction for age, it varies.

Vows are bullshit for everyone. No sex, it's just not healthy. And doesn't work. The Catholic church is proof of that.

You never took any vows of fidelity?

Nope. Anyways it's not a vow of fidelity to not have sex at all, it's a vow of insanity.

I'm not surprised.

Why? Because if I don't do actual spoken vows, I'm going to cheat on my partner?

 

[ding]

Is 16 an adult?

You do know how to use google, right?

It does seem to show that vows are bullshit to homosexuals.

Check with your jurisdiction for age, it varies.

Vows are bullshit for everyone. No sex, it's just not healthy. And doesn't work. The Catholic church is proof of that.

You never took any vows of fidelity?

Nope. Anyways it's not a vow of fidelity to not have sex at all, it's a vow of insanity.

I'm not surprised.

Why? Because if I don't do actual spoken vows, I'm going to cheat on my partner?

You mean you haven't already?

Probably. You guys are known for free love.

 

[Mudda]

Check with your jurisdiction for age, it varies.

Vows are bullshit for everyone. No sex, it's just not healthy. And doesn't work. The Catholic church is proof of that.

You never took any vows of fidelity?

Nope. Anyways it's not a vow of fidelity to not have sex at all, it's a vow of insanity.

I'm not surprised.

Why? Because if I don't do actual spoken vows, I'm going to cheat on my partner?

You mean you haven't already?

Probably. You guys are known for free love.

Your love life must suck. How many wives have left you so far?

 

[ding]

You never took any vows of fidelity?

Nope. Anyways it's not a vow of fidelity to not have sex at all, it's a vow of insanity.

I'm not surprised.

Why? Because if I don't do actual spoken vows, I'm going to cheat on my partner?

You mean you haven't already?

Probably. You guys are known for free love.

Your love life must suck. How many wives have left you so far?

None. How about you?

 

[Mudda]

Nope. Anyways it's not a vow of fidelity to not have sex at all, it's a vow of insanity.

I'm not surprised.

Why? Because if I don't do actual spoken vows, I'm going to cheat on my partner?

You mean you haven't already?

Probably. You guys are known for free love.

Your love life must suck. How many wives have left you so far?

None. How about you?

So you don't dispute that your love life sucks. Good for you.

 

[ding]

I'm not surprised.

Why? Because if I don't do actual spoken vows, I'm going to cheat on my partner?

You mean you haven't already?

Probably. You guys are known for free love.

Your love life must suck. How many wives have left you so far?

None. How about you?

So you don't dispute that your love life sucks. Good for you.

I see logic is not one of your strengths.

 

[ding]

"In Vindicating the Founders, Thomas G. West relays that Gouverneur Morris, ambassador to France , predicted their revolution would fail because the French were “ridiculing religion.” Morris, a not particularly pious man, foresaw catastrophe since “religion is the only solid base of morals and that morals are the only possible support of free governments.”

The Founders disagreed on much, but were nearly unanimous concerning biblical morality. They understood the relationship between state and society differently than progressive thinkers today: government cannot mold man. Righteous men must mold government which requires the inculcation of virtue through vibrant churches and the transmittal of values generationally via a social structure based on families."

Was America Founded As A Christian Nation?

 

[Luddly Neddite]

I think the OP has finally got that whole copy-paste thing down and deserves our respect and admiration for sticking with it so long. It can't have been easy for him so, even he's full of crap, I'm just reeel impressed.


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[ding]

I think the OP has finally got that whole copy-paste thing down and deserves our respect and admiration for sticking with it so long. It can't have been easy for him so, even he's full of crap, I'm just reeel impressed.


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Thanks. Ron Paul talked about your kind when he said, "Throughout our nation's history, churches have done what no government can ever do, namely teach morality and civility. Moral and civil individuals are largely governed by their own sense of right and wrong, and hence have little need for external government. This is the real reason the collectivist Left hates religion: Churches as institutions compete with the state for the people's allegiance, and many devout people put their faith in God before putting their faith in the state. Knowing this, the secularists wage an ongoing war against religion, chipping away bit by bit at our nation's Christian heritage."

 

[Vandalshandle]

America's Christian Heritage is indisputable. The second best-selling book in the American colonies was the New England Primer. Five million copies existed in America in 1776. At that time, there were only four million people in America. Many of its selections were drawn from the King James Bible. The New England Prime was the foundation of schooling that all children studied from at the time of our Founding.

Harvard's Rules and Precepts of 1636 tells us that all knowledge rests on the foundation of God and Jesus Christ. Harvard's original motto was Truth for Christ and the Church.

Princeton's founding statement of 1746 was Cursed is all Learning that is contrary to the Cross of Christ.

Coumbia university's seal of 1755 has the hebrew Tetragrammaton, YHVW (Jehovah) within a radiant triangle. The school's motto "In Lumine Tuo Videbimus Lumen" means "In thy light we shall see light" Psalms 36:9, arcs across the top.

In 1832 Gouverneur Morris said, “Religion is the only solid basis of good morals; therefore education should teach the precepts of religion, and the duties of man towards God.”

In 1790 Samuel Adams said, ""Let divines and philosophers, statesmen and patriots, unite their endeavors to renovate the age, by impressing the minds of men with the importance of educating their little boys and girls, of inculcating in the minds of youth the fear and love of the Deity...in short of leading them in the study and practice of the exalted virtues of the Christian system.“

In 1798 Benjamin Rush said, "In contemplating the political institutions of the United States, I lament that we waste so much time and money in punishing crimes, and take so little pains to prevent them. We profess to be republicans and yet we neglect the only means of establishing and perpetuating our republican forms of
government. That is, the universal education of our youth in the principles of Christianity by the means of the Bible.”

In 1836 Noah Webster said, “In my view, the Christian Religion is the most important and one of the first things in which all children, under a free government, ought to be instructed...no truth is more evident to my mind than that the Christian Religion must be the basis of any government intended to secure the rights and privileges of a free people.”

In 1835 Alexis de Tocqueville wrote in his book, Democracy in America, "Upon my arrival in the United States the religious aspect of the country was the first thing that struck my attention; and the longer I stayed there, the more I perceived the great political consequences resulting from this new state of things. In France I had almost always seen the spirit of religion and the spirit of freedom marching in opposite directions. But in America I found they were intimately united and that they reigned in common over the same country. Religion in America...must be regarded as the foremost of the political institutions of that country; for if it does not impart a taste for freedom, it facilitates the use of it. Indeed, it is in this same point of view that the inhabitants of the United States themselves look upon religious belief. I do not know whether all Americans have a sincere faith in their religion -- for who can search the human heart? But I am certain that they hold it to be indispensable to the maintenance of republican institutions. This opinion is not peculiar to a class of citizens or a party, but it belongs to the whole nation and to every rank of society. In the United States, the sovereign authority is religious...there is no country in the world where the Christian religion retains a greater influence over the souls of men than in America, and there can be no greater proof of its utility and of its conformity to human nature than that its influence is powerfully felt over the most enlightened and free nation of the earth. In the United States, the influence of religion is not confined to the manners, but it extends to the intelligence of the people...

Christianity, therefore, reigns without obstacle, by universal consent...

I sought for the key to the greatness and genius of America in her harbors...; in her fertile fields and boundless forests; in her rich mines and vast world commerce; in her public school system and institutions of learning. I sought for it in her democratic Congress and in her matchless Constitution Not until I went into the churches of America and heard her pulpits flame with righteousness did I understand the secret of her genius and power. America is great because America is good, and if America ever ceases to be good, America will cease to be great. The safeguard of morality is religion, and morality is the best security of law as well as the surest pledge of freedom. The Americans combine the notions of Christianity and of liberty so intimately in their minds, that it is impossible to make them conceive the one without the other Christianity is the companion of liberty in all its conflicts -- the cradle of its infancy, and the divine source of its claims."

The New England primer : a reprint of the earliest known edition ; with many facsimiles and reproductions; and an historical introduction : Ford, Paul Leicester, 1865-1902 : Free Download & Streaming : Internet Archive

The New England Primer - Wikipedia

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I stopped reading at the first sentence when the OP claimed that there was a publication numbering 5 million in America in 1776, when it was doubtful that 1 million of whom could read!

 

[ding]

America's Christian Heritage is indisputable. The second best-selling book in the American colonies was the New England Primer. Five million copies existed in America in 1776. At that time, there were only four million people in America. Many of its selections were drawn from the King James Bible. The New England Prime was the foundation of schooling that all children studied from at the time of our Founding.

Harvard's Rules and Precepts of 1636 tells us that all knowledge rests on the foundation of God and Jesus Christ. Harvard's original motto was Truth for Christ and the Church.

Princeton's founding statement of 1746 was Cursed is all Learning that is contrary to the Cross of Christ.

Coumbia university's seal of 1755 has the hebrew Tetragrammaton, YHVW (Jehovah) within a radiant triangle. The school's motto "In Lumine Tuo Videbimus Lumen" means "In thy light we shall see light" Psalms 36:9, arcs across the top.

In 1832 Gouverneur Morris said, “Religion is the only solid basis of good morals; therefore education should teach the precepts of religion, and the duties of man towards God.”

In 1790 Samuel Adams said, ""Let divines and philosophers, statesmen and patriots, unite their endeavors to renovate the age, by impressing the minds of men with the importance of educating their little boys and girls, of inculcating in the minds of youth the fear and love of the Deity...in short of leading them in the study and practice of the exalted virtues of the Christian system.“

In 1798 Benjamin Rush said, "In contemplating the political institutions of the United States, I lament that we waste so much time and money in punishing crimes, and take so little pains to prevent them. We profess to be republicans and yet we neglect the only means of establishing and perpetuating our republican forms of
government. That is, the universal education of our youth in the principles of Christianity by the means of the Bible.”

In 1836 Noah Webster said, “In my view, the Christian Religion is the most important and one of the first things in which all children, under a free government, ought to be instructed...no truth is more evident to my mind than that the Christian Religion must be the basis of any government intended to secure the rights and privileges of a free people.”

In 1835 Alexis de Tocqueville wrote in his book, Democracy in America, "Upon my arrival in the United States the religious aspect of the country was the first thing that struck my attention; and the longer I stayed there, the more I perceived the great political consequences resulting from this new state of things. In France I had almost always seen the spirit of religion and the spirit of freedom marching in opposite directions. But in America I found they were intimately united and that they reigned in common over the same country. Religion in America...must be regarded as the foremost of the political institutions of that country; for if it does not impart a taste for freedom, it facilitates the use of it. Indeed, it is in this same point of view that the inhabitants of the United States themselves look upon religious belief. I do not know whether all Americans have a sincere faith in their religion -- for who can search the human heart? But I am certain that they hold it to be indispensable to the maintenance of republican institutions. This opinion is not peculiar to a class of citizens or a party, but it belongs to the whole nation and to every rank of society. In the United States, the sovereign authority is religious...there is no country in the world where the Christian religion retains a greater influence over the souls of men than in America, and there can be no greater proof of its utility and of its conformity to human nature than that its influence is powerfully felt over the most enlightened and free nation of the earth. In the United States, the influence of religion is not confined to the manners, but it extends to the intelligence of the people...

Christianity, therefore, reigns without obstacle, by universal consent...

I sought for the key to the greatness and genius of America in her harbors...; in her fertile fields and boundless forests; in her rich mines and vast world commerce; in her public school system and institutions of learning. I sought for it in her democratic Congress and in her matchless Constitution Not until I went into the churches of America and heard her pulpits flame with righteousness did I understand the secret of her genius and power. America is great because America is good, and if America ever ceases to be good, America will cease to be great. The safeguard of morality is religion, and morality is the best security of law as well as the surest pledge of freedom. The Americans combine the notions of Christianity and of liberty so intimately in their minds, that it is impossible to make them conceive the one without the other Christianity is the companion of liberty in all its conflicts -- the cradle of its infancy, and the divine source of its claims."

The New England primer : a reprint of the earliest known edition ; with many facsimiles and reproductions; and an historical introduction : Ford, Paul Leicester, 1865-1902 : Free Download & Streaming : Internet Archive

The New England Primer - Wikipedia

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Democracy in America - Wikipedia

One Nation Under God: Alexis de Tocqueville

I stopped reading at the first sentence when the OP claimed that there was a publication numbering 5 million in America in 1776, when it was doubtful that 1 million of whom could read!

“Though the year of its first appearance is disputed, it is
estimated to have sold more than five million copies.”
Daniel S. Burt, ed., The Chronology of American Literature:
America’s Literary Achievements from the Colonial Era to
Modern Times (Boston: Houghton Mifflin Company, 2004),
30.

 

[Vandalshandle]

America's Christian Heritage is indisputable. The second best-selling book in the American colonies was the New England Primer. Five million copies existed in America in 1776. At that time, there were only four million people in America. Many of its selections were drawn from the King James Bible. The New England Prime was the foundation of schooling that all children studied from at the time of our Founding.

Harvard's Rules and Precepts of 1636 tells us that all knowledge rests on the foundation of God and Jesus Christ. Harvard's original motto was Truth for Christ and the Church.

Princeton's founding statement of 1746 was Cursed is all Learning that is contrary to the Cross of Christ.

Coumbia university's seal of 1755 has the hebrew Tetragrammaton, YHVW (Jehovah) within a radiant triangle. The school's motto "In Lumine Tuo Videbimus Lumen" means "In thy light we shall see light" Psalms 36:9, arcs across the top.

In 1832 Gouverneur Morris said, “Religion is the only solid basis of good morals; therefore education should teach the precepts of religion, and the duties of man towards God.”

In 1790 Samuel Adams said, ""Let divines and philosophers, statesmen and patriots, unite their endeavors to renovate the age, by impressing the minds of men with the importance of educating their little boys and girls, of inculcating in the minds of youth the fear and love of the Deity...in short of leading them in the study and practice of the exalted virtues of the Christian system.“

In 1798 Benjamin Rush said, "In contemplating the political institutions of the United States, I lament that we waste so much time and money in punishing crimes, and take so little pains to prevent them. We profess to be republicans and yet we neglect the only means of establishing and perpetuating our republican forms of
government. That is, the universal education of our youth in the principles of Christianity by the means of the Bible.”

In 1836 Noah Webster said, “In my view, the Christian Religion is the most important and one of the first things in which all children, under a free government, ought to be instructed...no truth is more evident to my mind than that the Christian Religion must be the basis of any government intended to secure the rights and privileges of a free people.”

In 1835 Alexis de Tocqueville wrote in his book, Democracy in America, "Upon my arrival in the United States the religious aspect of the country was the first thing that struck my attention; and the longer I stayed there, the more I perceived the great political consequences resulting from this new state of things. In France I had almost always seen the spirit of religion and the spirit of freedom marching in opposite directions. But in America I found they were intimately united and that they reigned in common over the same country. Religion in America...must be regarded as the foremost of the political institutions of that country; for if it does not impart a taste for freedom, it facilitates the use of it. Indeed, it is in this same point of view that the inhabitants of the United States themselves look upon religious belief. I do not know whether all Americans have a sincere faith in their religion -- for who can search the human heart? But I am certain that they hold it to be indispensable to the maintenance of republican institutions. This opinion is not peculiar to a class of citizens or a party, but it belongs to the whole nation and to every rank of society. In the United States, the sovereign authority is religious...there is no country in the world where the Christian religion retains a greater influence over the souls of men than in America, and there can be no greater proof of its utility and of its conformity to human nature than that its influence is powerfully felt over the most enlightened and free nation of the earth. In the United States, the influence of religion is not confined to the manners, but it extends to the intelligence of the people...

Christianity, therefore, reigns without obstacle, by universal consent...

I sought for the key to the greatness and genius of America in her harbors...; in her fertile fields and boundless forests; in her rich mines and vast world commerce; in her public school system and institutions of learning. I sought for it in her democratic Congress and in her matchless Constitution Not until I went into the churches of America and heard her pulpits flame with righteousness did I understand the secret of her genius and power. America is great because America is good, and if America ever ceases to be good, America will cease to be great. The safeguard of morality is religion, and morality is the best security of law as well as the surest pledge of freedom. The Americans combine the notions of Christianity and of liberty so intimately in their minds, that it is impossible to make them conceive the one without the other Christianity is the companion of liberty in all its conflicts -- the cradle of its infancy, and the divine source of its claims."

The New England primer : a reprint of the earliest known edition ; with many facsimiles and reproductions; and an historical introduction : Ford, Paul Leicester, 1865-1902 : Free Download & Streaming : Internet Archive

The New England Primer - Wikipedia

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Democracy in America - Wikipedia

One Nation Under God: Alexis de Tocqueville

I stopped reading at the first sentence when the OP claimed that there was a publication numbering 5 million in America in 1776, when it was doubtful that 1 million of whom could read!

“Though the year of its first appearance is disputed, it is
estimated to have sold more than five million copies.”
Daniel S. Burt, ed., The Chronology of American Literature:
America’s Literary Achievements from the Colonial Era to
Modern Times (Boston: Houghton Mifflin Company, 2004),
30.

That's a lot of copies, Ding, considering that there was no such thing as a mechanized press, but just some kid putting a piece of paper under the wood block and then twisting it down to the inked letters! The kid must have put in a lot of overtime! Not only that, but they had to hang each paper ona clothesline to dry! must have run that line from Philadelphia to Richmond, VA and back!

 

[NotfooledbyW]

America's Christian Heritage 170301 {post•1} ding Mar’17 Sachyz: “America's Christian Heritage is indisputable” dvng 170301 Sachyz00001

America Founded as a Christian Nation 200113 pg1 {post•1} Porter Rockwell Jan’01 Safaac: I am starting a thread covering the fact that America was begun as a Christian nation. •¥• prtrrckwll 200113 Safaac00001

Christianity and our founding fathers 240119 {post•1} my2¢ Jan’24 Scaoff: One of the items that I've disagreed with over the years on this board has been the issue relating to our founding fathers and Christianity. myncnts 240119 Scaoff00001

Libs going after patriotic nationalists again 240229 {post•1} lennypartiv Feb’24 Slgapn: “Libs don't want what our Founding Fathers wanted” •¥• lnnyprtv 240229 Slgapn00001

America is the machinery that makes western liberal democracy work for all humanity regardless of race creed or national origin.

The machinery has been running at far from optimum capacity since the late 1960s - early 1970s you can be stated, since the start of the sexual revolution.

The winds of change in American civil society has blown debilitating sand into the gears of our operating democracy.

A great division was ignited in 1973 with the passage of RvW that now is approaching an equal to the division that ended in the Civil War.

Today’s division does not have to be.

That is why I re-opened Saint Ding’s Sachyz0000 thread where it starts with “America's Christian Heritage is indisputable”. That is a rational, historically correct, fact that we all should agree upon.

So let’s start there shall we, as we look at the culprit that has been dividing us for 50 years:

That is The right to life of baby fetus and the rise of white Christian nationalism, overwhelming the republican party that transform to the debate that we should be having rationally and civilly into a contest between the supernatural forces of Christianity between good and evil.

More to come, hopefully we can bring all the “Christian nation” posts together and have a rational and civil discussion about them.

After all there has been thousands of hours spent on a great public discourse on the subject of whether America was founded as a Christian nation, or if it was not.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Embryos and Personhood 240227
{post•15} MarathonMike Feb’24 Seapyz: A bizarre decision by one court. And a totally sole and separate issue from abortion. •¥• mrthnmk 240227 Seapyz00015

America's Christian Heritage 240303​

It was not a bizarre court decision by a Republican appointed judge who believes with the republican party that the United States of America is in a Covenant with the Judeo Christian God of the Holy Bible and therefore, if America continues to allow women to abort their fetuses, the wrath of God will rain down upon all of America.

If you think the judges, decision was bizarre then you think the entire republican party has been bizarre for the past 50 years.

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