Zone1 No Christian can vote for Kamala

[ding]

ding, you know that I think you have your moments of which you should be ashamed. zaangalewa, however, should be ashamed almost every time for posting that crap. Unchristian!

No one is perfect. Some are less so.

 

[lafayette]

... or not. Depends on their political opinions. Some Christians even never vote for example. But in the current situation of the USA I personally think everyone should really start to think about that Donald Trump tried to overtake the USA against law and order and he created the absurde myth to be still president of the USA because Joe Biden just simple wan the last elections. And as far as I can see Joe Biden did do - and is still doing - a great job while Donald Trump had been one of the worst presidents the USA ever had seen. Unfortunatelly 85% of our value judgements depend on superficial trivialities while only 15% of these complaints relate to substantive issues.

You need a damn good president the next time. The best you can get. I personally do not think this is Donald Trump.

On this I agree with you 100%

 

[ding]

True Christians will, of course, vote for Harris.

That's as silly as saying true Christians will vote for Trump.

Were you trying to make a joke?

 

[zaangalewa]

No one is perfect. ...

Not even the perfect is perfect.

 

[Michael1985]

Below are the words of Bill Donahue, writing for Newsmax, along with some parts being paraphrased somewhat by yours truly:

[Kamala Harris] has.. 1) tried to force states that restrict abortions to obtain federal approval from the DOJ

2) [As CA’s AG] she "bludgeoned" pro-life activist David Daleiden [who] used undercover videos to expose how abortion operatives harvest and sell aborted fetal organs. 3) She authorized her office to raid his home: they seized his camera equipment and copies of revealing videos that implicated many of those who work in the abortion industry. 4) [She] sought to cripple crisis pregnancy centers with draconian regulations, supporting a bill that would force these centers to inform clients where they could obtain an abortion. She was sued and lost in the Supreme Court 3 years later. 5) Even when [children survive an abortion] she is OK with letting [them] die. . 6) Harris voted against the Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Protection Act, a bill that would “prohibit a health care practitioner from failing to exercise the proper degree of care in the case of a child who survives an abortion or attempted abortion.” .. When it comes to convicted serial rapists and mass shooters, she wants to spare their lives. In 2019, she was.. 7) asked if she opposed the death penalty for acts of treason. She said she did [oppose that].

[Donahue continues:] There we have it. Harris says that those who endanger the safety of all Americans by attempting a violent overthrow of the government, or spying on the military for a foreign enemy, should have their lives spared, but innocent children who are moments away from being born are not entitled.. children who survive an abortion, but are in need of medical attention, can be left to die.. and no one will be held accountable.

The D Party is the proud party of homosexual activists and transgender radicals. Harris… actually performed “marriages” between gay couples in 2004. 8) She also opposed Proposition 8, the California initiative barring gay marriage. The people spoke—they voted for it—but she 9) does not believe in “power to the people”: 10) she believes in power to the ruling class (which won in the Supreme Court). When.. DeSantis supported 11) a bill that would prohibit teachers in the early grades, K-3rd grade, from being indoctrinated with gay and transgender propaganda, she opposed it [showing] her contempt for parental rights... Harris’ enthusiasm for transgender rights includes 12) allowing females who claim to be men to join the military and males who claim to be female to compete against girls and women in sports. Religious liberty is a 1st Amendment right, but her deeds suggest she is not supportive of it. As a U.S. senator, she 13) co-sponsored the “Do No Harm Act” that would force religious institutions to violate their doctrinal prerogatives. Harris even 14) co-sponsored the most anti-religious liberty bill ever introduced, the Equality Act. It would coerce Catholic doctors and hospitals to perform abortions and to mutilate the genitals of young people seeking to transition to the opposite sex. This bill would sideline the Religious Freedom Restoration Act, a 1993 bill that ensures that the government does not encroach on religious rights. In 2018, the Catholic League was among the first organizations in the nation to protest 15) her attack on a Catholic nominee for a federal district judge post. She badgered Brian Buescher at a hearing, simply because he was a member of the Knights of Columbus, a male entity... Harris has never objected to Jewish women groups or the League of Women Voters. Just a Catholic male group. What really got her goat is Buescher’s membership in a Catholic organization that is pro-life and pro-marriage, rightly understood. 16) In other words, she was invoking a religious test for public office, which is unconstitutional. The one incident where Harris proved to be religion-friendly was a stunt she pulled that violated separation of church and state. In 2021, 17) she created a video to be played in Virginia Black churches urging everyone to vote for D gubernatorial candidate Terry McAuliffe. The video aired in 300 churches for several weeks. Harris starred in it, beckoning congregants to vote for him

(The entire article can be found here
https://www.newsmax.com/billdonohue/kamala-harris-religion/2024/07/25/id/1173946/ )

So there you have

17 REASONS NO TRUE CHRISTIAN CAN VOTE FOR KAMALA​

Yet plenty of them have, do, and will vote for her. Anyone on the religious right offended by that can just suck it up and move on.

 

[initforme]

I'm not catholic. I am a Christian though. I am not voting in November. Therefore my hands shall be cleansed of this.

 

[forkintheroad7]

I'm not catholic. I am a Christian though. I am not voting in November. Therefore my hands shall be cleansed of this.

No, you will become that hideous thing known as: POTP: part of the problem, not the solution. Not voting is a vote for the most evil candidate. The Bible says (Revelation) that we are held accountable 4 our actions and will be judged by THEM (not beliefs, but actions)

 

[lafayette]

You embarass Jesus, if you won't vote.

 

[forkintheroad7]

You embarass Jesus, if you won't vote.

I don't think He gets embarrassed. If you read Revelation Jesus starts to look like someone who doesn't get angry

but gets "even"

or something like that..

 

[lafayette]

I don't think He gets embarrassed. If you read Revelation Jesus starts to look like someone who doesn't get angry

but gets "even"

or something like that..

You have not read Revelation with the discerning spirit of the holy mediator.

 

[ding]

You embarass Jesus, if you won't vote.

How so?

 

[initforme]

No, you will become that hideous thing known as: POTP: part of the problem, not the solution. Not voting is a vote for the most evil candidate. The Bible says (Revelation) that we are held accountable 4 our actions and will be judged by THEM (not beliefs, but actions)

Because you have a direct line to God.

 

[ding]

You have not read Revelation with the discerning spirit of the holy mediator.

Revelation is about the fall of the Roman Empire which is why it was written so symbolically. They couldn't openly write about the demise of the super power of the day while the super power of the day was still the super power of the day. I wouldn't read too much into that book about the future. What Revelation was describing has already come to pass.

 

[initforme]

You embarass Jesus, if you won't vote.

Never heard a bigger load of bull than that.

 

[surada]

Revelation is about the fall of the Roman Empire which is why it was written so symbolically. They couldn't openly write about the demise of the super power of the day while the super power of the day was still the super power of the day. I wouldn't read too much into that book about the future. What Revelation was describing has already come to pass.

Why do you think it's about the fall of the Roman empire?

 

[forkintheroad7]

You have not read Revelation with the discerning spirit of the holy mediator.

Of course not. I don't do anything "right."

silly me

 

[ding]

Why do you think it's about the fall of the Roman empire?

You mean besides what I have already explained?

The Book of Revelation begins by qualifying the events that follow as “what must soon take place”, therefore all of the Book of Revelation speaks about the events "soon to take place" after it was written in 96 AD.

 

[surada]

You mean besides what I have already explained?

The Book of Revelation begins by qualifying the events that follow as “what must soon take place”, therefore all of the Book of Revelation speaks about the events "soon to take place" after it was written in 96 AD.

There some debate about when Revelation was written. Some scholars think it was written about 75 AD.

The Roman empire lasted until about 476 AD....
the Eastern Roman Empire, also known as the Byzantine Empire, continued to exist until 1453 AD, when it was conquered by the Ottoman Turks.

 

[surada]

Revelation is about the fall of the Roman Empire which is why it was written so symbolically. They couldn't openly write about the demise of the super power of the day while the super power of the day was still the super power of the day. I wouldn't read too much into that book about the future. What Revelation was describing has already come to pass.

The Roman empire was unaffected by events in Palestine.

 

[ding]

There some debate about when Revelation was written. Some scholars think it was written about 75 AD.

The Roman empire lasted until about 476 AD....
the Eastern Roman Empire, also known as the Byzantine Empire, continued to exist until 1453 AD, when it was conquered by the Ottoman Turks.

Don't care about when it was written or when the Roman empire fell. Totally irrelevant to what I wrote.