Wyatt earp
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F.Y.I. t.v.s are made again in U.S.A. > south carolina sold at walmart
There is a funny story behind it Google it yourself
Americans Are Willing to Pay More to Bring Back Manufacturing Jobs
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F.Y.I. t.v.s are made again in U.S.A. > south carolina sold at walmart
There is a funny story behind it Google it yourself
Wow you really sucked Trumps Koolaid.
Think nothing is made in America? Output has doubled in three decades
Think nothing is made in America? Output has doubled in three decades
Surprising Fact No. 1: Manufacturing is the largest and most dynamic sector of the U.S. economy.
China became the leading manufacturing economy in the world in 2010, but the United States maintains a strong second-place standing. The value added by U.S. factories is more than $2 trillion a year, equal to the next three countries (Japan, Germany and South Korea) combined. U.S. manufacturing is still the envy of the world.
Gross output of U.S. manufacturing industries — counting products produced for final use as well as those used as intermediate inputs — totaled $6.2 trillion in 2015, about 36% of U.S. gross domestic product, nearly double the output of any of the other big sectors: professional and business services, government and real estate.
Surprising Fact No. 2: Manufacturing output is a near a record high.
Technology and new ways of organizing work have revolutionized the American factory since the Golden Age of the 1980s. Today, U.S. factories produce twice as much stuff as they did in 1984, but with one-third fewer workers.
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Americans are not willing to pay more unless they are retarded, because we are paying too much already.
Hmmm that is a funny story...
Element Electronics boasts of being the only American-owned and American-assembled television company. Flashy red-white-and-blue packaging helps it do business with Walmart as part of the retailer’s quarter-trillion-dollar “Made in USA” initiative. But according to a Federal Trade Commission (FTC) complaint filed Tuesday, the company isn’t making anything in America after all.
Instead, the complaint alleges, the Chinese-made TVs arrive to Element’s South Carolina assembly line in boxes adorned with a waving American flag and the slogan “America Matters” on the front and the phrase “assembled in the USA” on top. Element’s employees unscrew a plastic panel, install a Chinese-made motherboard, close the panel, and return the TVs to their patriotic packaging so that they can be shipped out to Walmart, Target, Meijer, Sam’s Club, and QVC. That depiction of Element’s assembly process comes from a July article in the Wall Street Journal.
The Journal article is the key evidence in the FTC complaint, which was filed by a non-partisan non-profit group called the Alliance for American Manufacturing (AAM). AAM’s blog had previously touted Element Electronics as an example of manufacturing jobs returning to the U.S., but in Tuesday’s complaint it asks the FTC for an injunction barring Element from saying that their televisions are assembled stateside.
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American Apparel disproves this theory.
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I just looked at a Ford, the engine was made in Brasil and the car was made in Mexico..............Made in America
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What is that? and how much percentage of clothing is imported?
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Wow you really sucked Trumps Koolaid.
Think nothing is made in America? Output has doubled in three decades
Think nothing is made in America? Output has doubled in three decades
Surprising Fact No. 1: Manufacturing is the largest and most dynamic sector of the U.S. economy.
China became the leading manufacturing economy in the world in 2010, but the United States maintains a strong second-place standing. The value added by U.S. factories is more than $2 trillion a year, equal to the next three countries (Japan, Germany and South Korea) combined. U.S. manufacturing is still the envy of the world.
Gross output of U.S. manufacturing industries — counting products produced for final use as well as those used as intermediate inputs — totaled $6.2 trillion in 2015, about 36% of U.S. gross domestic product, nearly double the output of any of the other big sectors: professional and business services, government and real estate.
Surprising Fact No. 2: Manufacturing output is a near a record high.
Technology and new ways of organizing work have revolutionized the American factory since the Golden Age of the 1980s. Today, U.S. factories produce twice as much stuff as they did in 1984, but with one-third fewer workers.
and we have the largest factory in the world. and the largest factory still is being built by tesla for production of batteries.
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It's a company I started following a few years ago to see where it would end up, started out well, strictly American made clothing but it's failing, can't compete with foreign labor costs and now is up for sale, whoever buys it will outsource the manufacturing, it's inevitable
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American Apparel hangs on to its made-in-America model — by a thread
American Apparel has filed for Chapter 11.
Even $12 is a real shitty wage.
American Apparel has filed for Chapter 11.
Even $12 is a real shitty wage.
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Yep, I used to work with a company that supplied Ford with a key component for the F-150 truck, almost the entire truck was "made" somewhere else, the parts shipped to the companies doing the individual assembly and then all those were shipped to the Louisville Ford plant where the truck was assembled....tada!!! Made In America but in reality it's "Assembled In America"
By the way- it can't compete even though we impose duty rates of between 20-30% on clothing made in places like China- where the majority of clothing imports come from.
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Wow you really sucked Trumps Koolaid.
Think nothing is made in America? Output has doubled in three decades
Think nothing is made in America? Output has doubled in three decades
Surprising Fact No. 1: Manufacturing is the largest and most dynamic sector of the U.S. economy.
China became the leading manufacturing economy in the world in 2010, but the United States maintains a strong second-place standing. The value added by U.S. factories is more than $2 trillion a year, equal to the next three countries (Japan, Germany and South Korea) combined. U.S. manufacturing is still the envy of the world.
Gross output of U.S. manufacturing industries — counting products produced for final use as well as those used as intermediate inputs — totaled $6.2 trillion in 2015, about 36% of U.S. gross domestic product, nearly double the output of any of the other big sectors: professional and business services, government and real estate.
Surprising Fact No. 2: Manufacturing output is a near a record high.
Technology and new ways of organizing work have revolutionized the American factory since the Golden Age of the 1980s. Today, U.S. factories produce twice as much stuff as they did in 1984, but with one-third fewer workers.
Thank you for messing up a liberal kill aid drinker like you.
Wyatt earp
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Not sure why you use the textile industry as an example it was way way over subsidized before Bill and the republicans got rid of it., it didn't hurt the south much because states like South Carolina and North Carolina were already starting to bring in industrial manufacturing jobs.
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It's good that Americans are willing to pay higher prices. I wonder how the hell they intend to obtain the money to pay those higher prices?
- Automation and anxiety Will smarter machines cause mass unemployment?
- 'Good' Jobs Aren't Coming Back
- Leveraging automation and integration to improve manufacturing performance under uncertainty: An empirical study
- Autonomous navigation in manufacturing
- The Future of Automation—and Your Job
If any jobs are created by that process, they'll be tech jobs and other highly skilled jobs that will be just as inaccessible to the folks who can't get one of the ~3M available "good" jobs that exist now as are those jobs they can't get now. Accordingly, what is the point of bringing back manufacturing when all it'll do is raise prices for everyone and increase the quantity of jobs that have gone unfilled.
I guess there's one good thing about doing it, however. Highly skilled folks who already have "good" jobs will see their salaries go up, for the need to implement new automation technology will result in another wave of "change jobs every two years to, at a minimum, double your salary" much like what happened in the 1990s.
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Good, then would you mind showing or explaining a few things? You see, I don't know about you, but when someone tells me I must pay more, the very first question I ask is, "How much more?" Accordingly, what I want to see from Trump or his team is the following:
- What are Trump's estimates of how much higher will be the consumer prices Americans must pay as a result of bringing back those manufacturing jobs?
- What econometric model did he (or his advisors) use to arrive at that estimate. I presume he (his team) used one of the gravity models of economic modeling. I just want to know which one and what assumptions they applied when doing so. It may be that he (his advisors), rather than performing the estimation/analysis themselves, relied upon an existing study and extrapolated his/their estimates from it using some rational methodology. That's okay too; I just want to know enough so I can examine the study and the methods used for the application of its ideas to Trump's plan.
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Your graph doesn't go back far enough. After WWII, the US was primarily a manufacturing country, but we got drunk of the huge profits we were making selling just about everything while Europe and Asia were rebuilding from the devastation of the war, but by the early 1960's, Japan and Europe, producing from more modern and efficient plants were able to sell us products for less than we could make them with our aging industrial infrastructure.
Still trying To say that lie Jillian?
Btw manufacturing in the U.S. never had more jobs then the service industry.
Wrong graph
After the economic famine of the Depression and the traumas of WWII and the Korean War, America went on holiday with both shareholders and unions demanding all profits be distributed without reserving any to invest in new plant and equipment. American manufactures became less and less competitive with products from Japan and Europe, but we always considered ourselves a manufacturing economy until in the 1980's Reagan declared we had become a service economy. We didn't become a service economy because it was better, but because mistakes that were made in the 1950's and 1960's made us less competitive as a manufacturing economy and forced us to become a service economy. A service economy can be very good for people who can deliver high end services, but you can't turn every steel worker into a computer programmer and lower level service jobs pay much less than the manufacturing jobs we lost.
The Clintons bought into the idea that we could sell enough high end services to other countries to make up for the manufacturing jobs we would lose through free trade agreements, but this didn't work out. As an example, the auto workers who will lose their jobs because Ford is moving its small car operations to Mexico, will not find service jobs that will pay nearly as well.
Although Obama disagrees, Clinton has finally agreed that these trade agreements were a mistake, but she has no proposals to do anything about them. Trump has a clear plan to prevent more good paying manufacturing jobs from leaving and to get some of those that have left back.
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Some of our industries have survived, but many have left.
Wow you really sucked Trumps Koolaid.
Think nothing is made in America? Output has doubled in three decades
Think nothing is made in America? Output has doubled in three decades
Surprising Fact No. 1: Manufacturing is the largest and most dynamic sector of the U.S. economy.
China became the leading manufacturing economy in the world in 2010, but the United States maintains a strong second-place standing. The value added by U.S. factories is more than $2 trillion a year, equal to the next three countries (Japan, Germany and South Korea) combined. U.S. manufacturing is still the envy of the world.
Gross output of U.S. manufacturing industries — counting products produced for final use as well as those used as intermediate inputs — totaled $6.2 trillion in 2015, about 36% of U.S. gross domestic product, nearly double the output of any of the other big sectors: professional and business services, government and real estate.
Surprising Fact No. 2: Manufacturing output is a near a record high.
Technology and new ways of organizing work have revolutionized the American factory since the Golden Age of the 1980s. Today, U.S. factories produce twice as much stuff as they did in 1984, but with one-third fewer workers.
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