Americans Are Willing to Pay More to Bring Back Manufacturing Jobs

[toomuchtime_]

Americans strongly agree with both major presidential candidates about the importance of bringing manufacturing jobs back to the United States and are willing to pay more for consumer goods to make it happen. (To see survey question wording, click here.)

Americans Are Willing to Pay More to Bring Back Manufacturing Jobs - Rasmussen Reports™

But only Trump has a plan to bring those jobs back.

We should only manufacture BETTER solar panels,BETTER software, BETTER automobiles, BETTER farm equipment,,...but this moronic idea that we are going to bring back manufacturing jobs making clothes, shoes, furniture, etc. is ridiculous and only works for slow witted Americans.....that horse left the barn 40 years ago.

First, we can prevent more jobs from leaving by renegotiating these free trade deals. This will remove the profit motive for stores like Walmart to buy from China and allow US companies to replace them, thus bringing the jobs back here. You see? It's not ridiculous at all unless you are a slow witted Clinton supporter.

We have no free trade deal with China.

Cotton T-shirts from China- 16.5% duty.

Our trade with China is governed by WTO rules.

 

[Syriusly]

Still waiting for you to tell us how much more you are willing to pay for American made product.

How much more would you be willing to pay for this TV?

 

[Syriusly]

Americans strongly agree with both major presidential candidates about the importance of bringing manufacturing jobs back to the United States and are willing to pay more for consumer goods to make it happen. (To see survey question wording, click here.)

Americans Are Willing to Pay More to Bring Back Manufacturing Jobs - Rasmussen Reports™

But only Trump has a plan to bring those jobs back.

We should only manufacture BETTER solar panels,BETTER software, BETTER automobiles, BETTER farm equipment,,...but this moronic idea that we are going to bring back manufacturing jobs making clothes, shoes, furniture, etc. is ridiculous and only works for slow witted Americans.....that horse left the barn 40 years ago.

First, we can prevent more jobs from leaving by renegotiating these free trade deals. This will remove the profit motive for stores like Walmart to buy from China and allow US companies to replace them, thus bringing the jobs back here. You see? It's not ridiculous at all unless you are a slow witted Clinton supporter.

We have no free trade deal with China.

Cotton T-shirts from China- 16.5% duty.

Our trade with China is governed by WTO rules.

Our duty rates are determined by the United States- and our duty rate for all countries including China for cotton t-shirts is 16.5%

We have no free trade deal with China- you just were wrong.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Americans strongly agree with both major presidential candidates about the importance of bringing manufacturing jobs back to the United States and are willing to pay more for consumer goods to make it happen. (To see survey question wording, click here.)

Americans Are Willing to Pay More to Bring Back Manufacturing Jobs - Rasmussen Reports™

But only Trump has a plan to bring those jobs back.

Americans are not willing to pay more unless they are retarded, because we are paying too much already.

The poll says most Americans are willing to pay more.

Again they already voted with their pocket and sent the jobs offshore to buy cheap shit from China @ walmart and all the rest.


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And now, according to the poll, they are reconsidering the issue.

 

[toomuchtime_]

It's a company I started following a few years ago to see where it would end up, started out well, strictly American made clothing but it's failing, can't compete with foreign labor costs and now is up for sale, whoever buys it will outsource the manufacturing, it's inevitable

By the way- it can't compete even though we impose duty rates of between 20-30% on clothing made in places like China- where the majority of clothing imports come from.

It could compete if China were forced to allow its currency to float instead of devaluing it to keep its manufactures cheaper than our's.

China's manufacturing is less than ours because of several things:
a) Labor is cheaper- not as cheap as it once was- it has risen dramatically in the last 10 years- the average manufacturing wage is about $8,000 a year. You really believe floating currency will make $8,000 a year labor equal to $50,000 a year labor in the United States?
b) Less regulation- Chinese manufacturing loves to pollute
View attachment 91683If we allowed American industry to operate like Chinese industry that would make American industry more competitive.....

By the way- I have never seen or felt air pollution the way I have in Beijing.

It all depends on how labor intensive the particular industry is and what level of labor is involved. Add to that the fact that Chinese goods would have additional shipping costs involved and the costs may not be that different.

Well lets think that through- shall we- if the industry is not very labor intensive.......then not many jobs will come then- will they?
That is the actual major reason for the drop in jobs in Manufacturing- automation. Even when manufacturing does come back to the United States- most of the jobs do not. But the jobs that do exist- are about 7 times more expensive here than in China.

And shipping is cheap from China to the United States. Very cheap.

Depending on the volume of business it does, an industry can be not labor intensive and still involve a great many jobs. The less labor intensive a manufacturing company is, the more likely the jobs it does have requires skills that make it pay better.

If the yuan were allowed to float, it might double the cost of Chinese goods on the American market. Add to that even fairly low shipping costs, and many US manufactures would be competitive.

 

[Wyatt earp]

[ Despite their somewhat lower labor costs, much US manufacturing would be competitive with Chinese products if they were force to allow their currency to float. .

'somewhat lower labor costs'?

Average manufacturing wage China about $8,000 a year.
Average manufacturing wage US about $72,000 a year.

That will have to be a hell of a currency float.

You forgot about shipping

 

[toomuchtime_]

Americans strongly agree with both major presidential candidates about the importance of bringing manufacturing jobs back to the United States and are willing to pay more for consumer goods to make it happen. (To see survey question wording, click here.)

Americans Are Willing to Pay More to Bring Back Manufacturing Jobs - Rasmussen Reports™

But only Trump has a plan to bring those jobs back.

We should only manufacture BETTER solar panels,BETTER software, BETTER automobiles, BETTER farm equipment,,...but this moronic idea that we are going to bring back manufacturing jobs making clothes, shoes, furniture, etc. is ridiculous and only works for slow witted Americans.....that horse left the barn 40 years ago.

First, we can prevent more jobs from leaving by renegotiating these free trade deals. This will remove the profit motive for stores like Walmart to buy from China and allow US companies to replace them, thus bringing the jobs back here. You see? It's not ridiculous at all unless you are a slow witted Clinton supporter.

We have no free trade deal with China.

Cotton T-shirts from China- 16.5% duty.

Our trade with China is governed by WTO rules.

Our duty rates are determined by the United States- and our duty rate for all countries including China for cotton t-shirts is 16.5%

We have no free trade deal with China- you just were wrong.

I am not wrong. The WTO is a multilateral free trade agreement.

 

[Toro]

Not going to happen.

Sorry.

If Orange Jesus slaps on a bunch of tariffs, capitalists will automate, and the only thing that will happen is prices will rise. There will be no increase in manufacturing employment.

It's not 1952 anymore.

No matter how much you want it to be.

 

[Syriusly]

By the way- it can't compete even though we impose duty rates of between 20-30% on clothing made in places like China- where the majority of clothing imports come from.

It could compete if China were forced to allow its currency to float instead of devaluing it to keep its manufactures cheaper than our's.

China's manufacturing is less than ours because of several things:
a) Labor is cheaper- not as cheap as it once was- it has risen dramatically in the last 10 years- the average manufacturing wage is about $8,000 a year. You really believe floating currency will make $8,000 a year labor equal to $50,000 a year labor in the United States?
b) Less regulation- Chinese manufacturing loves to pollute
View attachment 91683If we allowed American industry to operate like Chinese industry that would make American industry more competitive.....

By the way- I have never seen or felt air pollution the way I have in Beijing.

It all depends on how labor intensive the particular industry is and what level of labor is involved. Add to that the fact that Chinese goods would have additional shipping costs involved and the costs may not be that different.

Well lets think that through- shall we- if the industry is not very labor intensive.......then not many jobs will come then- will they?
That is the actual major reason for the drop in jobs in Manufacturing- automation. Even when manufacturing does come back to the United States- most of the jobs do not. But the jobs that do exist- are about 7 times more expensive here than in China.

And shipping is cheap from China to the United States. Very cheap.

Depending on the volume of business it does, an industry can be not labor intensive and still involve a great many jobs. The less labor intensive a manufacturing company is, the more likely the jobs it does have requires skills that make it pay better.

If the yuan were allowed to float, it might double the cost of Chinese goods on the American market. Add to that even fairly low shipping costs, and many US manufactures would be competitive.

Okay- do the math for me.

Highly automated manufacturing- same number of workers here as in China to manufacture the same item.
Chinese labor cost about 1/9 of American - even doubling the cost- you still have to make up for a 9 times difference in labor.

 

[Toro]

I am not wrong. The WTO is a multilateral free trade agreement.

Free trade is freedom.

Freedom is liberty.

Those opposing free trade oppose liberty.

They rationalize their anti-American sentiments by convincing themselves that they are suffering because of politicians.

But they are lying to themselves.

 

[Syriusly]

We should only manufacture BETTER solar panels,BETTER software, BETTER automobiles, BETTER farm equipment,,...but this moronic idea that we are going to bring back manufacturing jobs making clothes, shoes, furniture, etc. is ridiculous and only works for slow witted Americans.....that horse left the barn 40 years ago.

First, we can prevent more jobs from leaving by renegotiating these free trade deals. This will remove the profit motive for stores like Walmart to buy from China and allow US companies to replace them, thus bringing the jobs back here. You see? It's not ridiculous at all unless you are a slow witted Clinton supporter.

We have no free trade deal with China.

Cotton T-shirts from China- 16.5% duty.

Our trade with China is governed by WTO rules.

Our duty rates are determined by the United States- and our duty rate for all countries including China for cotton t-shirts is 16.5%

We have no free trade deal with China- you just were wrong.

I am not wrong. The WTO is a multilateral free trade agreement.

You are absolutely wrong. The World Trade Organization is a trade agreement framework- a system of rules and dispute resolutions- not a Free Trade Agreement.

Free Trade Agreements are like NAFTA, and CAFTA, and Israeli Free Trade Agreement and on and on. We have a bunch of free trade agreements around the world- but not a single one with China.

 

[Syriusly]

[ Despite their somewhat lower labor costs, much US manufacturing would be competitive with Chinese products if they were force to allow their currency to float. .

'somewhat lower labor costs'?

Average manufacturing wage China about $8,000 a year.
Average manufacturing wage US about $72,000 a year.

That will have to be a hell of a currency float.

You forgot about shipping

Shipping is ridiculously cheap from China to the United States.

I saw one estimate that 72,000 t-shirts would fit in a 40' container- which would make the cost per t-shirt in the range of .03/shirt for shipping.

 

[toomuchtime_]

It could compete if China were forced to allow its currency to float instead of devaluing it to keep its manufactures cheaper than our's.

China's manufacturing is less than ours because of several things:
a) Labor is cheaper- not as cheap as it once was- it has risen dramatically in the last 10 years- the average manufacturing wage is about $8,000 a year. You really believe floating currency will make $8,000 a year labor equal to $50,000 a year labor in the United States?
b) Less regulation- Chinese manufacturing loves to pollute
View attachment 91683If we allowed American industry to operate like Chinese industry that would make American industry more competitive.....

By the way- I have never seen or felt air pollution the way I have in Beijing.

It all depends on how labor intensive the particular industry is and what level of labor is involved. Add to that the fact that Chinese goods would have additional shipping costs involved and the costs may not be that different.

Well lets think that through- shall we- if the industry is not very labor intensive.......then not many jobs will come then- will they?
That is the actual major reason for the drop in jobs in Manufacturing- automation. Even when manufacturing does come back to the United States- most of the jobs do not. But the jobs that do exist- are about 7 times more expensive here than in China.

And shipping is cheap from China to the United States. Very cheap.

Depending on the volume of business it does, an industry can be not labor intensive and still involve a great many jobs. The less labor intensive a manufacturing company is, the more likely the jobs it does have requires skills that make it pay better.

If the yuan were allowed to float, it might double the cost of Chinese goods on the American market. Add to that even fairly low shipping costs, and many US manufactures would be competitive.

Okay- do the math for me.

Highly automated manufacturing- same number of workers here as in China to manufacture the same item.
Chinese labor cost about 1/9 of American - even doubling the cost- you still have to make up for a 9 times difference in labor.

Average labor costs mean nothing when you are talking about a particular industry. Are these computer analysts or unskilled labor we are talking about? What percentage of the final costs are labor costs? If the yuan floats it may double or more the cost of Chinese goods on the US market.

 

[rdean]

Americans strongly agree with both major presidential candidates about the importance of bringing manufacturing jobs back to the United States and are willing to pay more for consumer goods to make it happen. (To see survey question wording, click here.)

Americans Are Willing to Pay More to Bring Back Manufacturing Jobs - Rasmussen Reports™

But only Trump has a plan to bring those jobs back.

Bring what jobs back from where? Describe them in detail.

Foxconn replaces '60,000 factory workers with robots' - BBC News

Inside China’s effort to replace millions of manufacturing workers with robots

Robots replaced 60,000 workers in this one Chinese town

Are these the jobs you are talking about "bringing back"?

 

[Care4all]

Americans strongly agree with both major presidential candidates about the importance of bringing manufacturing jobs back to the United States and are willing to pay more for consumer goods to make it happen. (To see survey question wording, click here.)

Americans Are Willing to Pay More to Bring Back Manufacturing Jobs - Rasmussen Reports™

But only Trump has a plan to bring those jobs back.

What is this doable plan of Trump's to bring jobs back?

You claim he has one, so please tell us what it is and how it will all work, please.

EDIT***

I see there are some suggestions in the thread that I have not read yet!

 

[toomuchtime_]

First, we can prevent more jobs from leaving by renegotiating these free trade deals. This will remove the profit motive for stores like Walmart to buy from China and allow US companies to replace them, thus bringing the jobs back here. You see? It's not ridiculous at all unless you are a slow witted Clinton supporter.

We have no free trade deal with China.

Cotton T-shirts from China- 16.5% duty.

Our trade with China is governed by WTO rules.

Our duty rates are determined by the United States- and our duty rate for all countries including China for cotton t-shirts is 16.5%

We have no free trade deal with China- you just were wrong.

I am not wrong. The WTO is a multilateral free trade agreement.

You are absolutely wrong. The World Trade Organization is a trade agreement framework- a system of rules and dispute resolutions- not a Free Trade Agreement.

Free Trade Agreements are like NAFTA, and CAFTA, and Israeli Free Trade Agreement and on and on. We have a bunch of free trade agreements around the world- but not a single one with China.

lol So what do you think a free trade agreement is? It is a system of rules and conflict resolutions between two or more nations.

 

[rdean]

We have no free trade deal with China.

Cotton T-shirts from China- 16.5% duty.

Our trade with China is governed by WTO rules.

Our duty rates are determined by the United States- and our duty rate for all countries including China for cotton t-shirts is 16.5%

We have no free trade deal with China- you just were wrong.

I am not wrong. The WTO is a multilateral free trade agreement.

You are absolutely wrong. The World Trade Organization is a trade agreement framework- a system of rules and dispute resolutions- not a Free Trade Agreement.

Free Trade Agreements are like NAFTA, and CAFTA, and Israeli Free Trade Agreement and on and on. We have a bunch of free trade agreements around the world- but not a single one with China.

lol So what do you think a free trade agreement is? It is a system of rules and conflict resolutions between two or more nations.

So what does a trade agreement have to do with robots taking over jobs? Is your agreement with the robots?

 

[Kondor3]

Americans strongly agree with both major presidential candidates about the importance of bringing manufacturing jobs back to the United States and are willing to pay more for consumer goods to make it happen. (To see survey question wording, click here.)

Americans Are Willing to Pay More to Bring Back Manufacturing Jobs - Rasmussen Reports™

But only Trump has a plan to bring those jobs back.

Trouble is... the price (Trump) is far too high...

 

[toomuchtime_]

Americans strongly agree with both major presidential candidates about the importance of bringing manufacturing jobs back to the United States and are willing to pay more for consumer goods to make it happen. (To see survey question wording, click here.)

Americans Are Willing to Pay More to Bring Back Manufacturing Jobs - Rasmussen Reports™

But only Trump has a plan to bring those jobs back.

What is this doable plan of Trump's to bring jobs back?

You claim he has one, so please tell us what it is and how it will all work, please.

EDIT***

I see there are some suggestions in the thread that I have not read yet!

No one who has been conscious over the last few months can not know the answer to that question, so why ask for something you already know?

 

[Wyatt earp]

[ Despite their somewhat lower labor costs, much US manufacturing would be competitive with Chinese products if they were force to allow their currency to float. .

'somewhat lower labor costs'?

Average manufacturing wage China about $8,000 a year.
Average manufacturing wage US about $72,000 a year.

That will have to be a hell of a currency float.

You forgot about shipping

Shipping is ridiculously cheap from China to the United States.

I saw one estimate that 72,000 t-shirts would fit in a 40' container- which would make the cost per t-shirt in the range of .03/shirt for shipping.

That reminds me I know charitys are shipping old t-shirts and such back to China (I guess they are making some money off it and never looked up why they are buying it) and company's shipping them off the floor waste plastics so China can use them for fuel


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