We're not here telling you what to eat. Quite the contrary, I think if you review this thread you'll find that I said, "IDGAF what you eat." busybody.I share info and facts and I present a case from a biblical standpoint, and people can do with that what they want. Take it or leave it. No one is forced to go to my YouTube channel or blog.
You and toobfreak sure doth protest too much. Which I think is telling...
Not angry. That seems to be democrat go to when someone disagrees with your narrative. I recognize you and your type as the SJWs that you are. Enjoy your tofu. LOL
You must debate in black light as I've never seen it. Every time I catch you saying something and question you on it, you say the same thing--- you already debated it ad nauseum, which makes me wonder why you are still debating it, er, at least commenting on it.
So you say. I'm not on YouTube though, I am debating it HERE. You are debating it HERE.
Then you should save yourself for when you are free.
Wow, what a bullshit cop out excuse.
Neither am I, but I don't start debates then always tell everyone that I'm too busy to defend my own baseless comments.
The wallpaper in the ladies room looks just fine, thank you.
I bet you failed.
More bullshit. Here you are hours later and still deflecting instead of answering any of my questions. You have no credibility.
Not even close. Vegans are an extremist fringe group. Some are normal and don't try and force their beliefs on others, but a very high percentage are militant, and try to force others to adopt their beliefs.
The only ground beef we get is from local butchers. That or Wagu when we feel like splurging.
Eating isn't "NEEDLESSLY".
vegan here, any questions?Very nice essay..hit quite a few nails on the head. The gist of it is simple...for most of us, the plant-based diet was more about social compulsion and less about actual desire.
I used the Yahoo link to get around the Atlantic paywall.
A few snippets..it's a longish essay:
Making America healthy again, it seems, starts with a double cheeseburger and fries. Earlier this month, Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. visited a Steak ’n Shake in Florida and shared a meal with Fox News’s Sean Hannity. The setting was no accident: Kennedy has praised the fast-food chain for switching its cooking oil from seed oil, which he falsely claims causes illness, to beef tallow. “People are raving about these french fries,” Kennedy said after eating one, before commending other restaurants that fry with beef tallow: Popeyes, Buffalo Wild Wings, Outback Steakhouse.
To put it another way, if you order fries at Steak ’n Shake, cauliflower wings at Buffalo Wild Wings, or the Bloomin’ Onion at Outback, your food will be cooked in cow fat. For more than a decade, cutting down on meat and other animal products has been idealized as a healthier, more ethical way to eat. Guidelines such as “Eat Food. Not Too Much. Mostly Plants” may have disproportionately appealed to liberals in big cities, but the meat backlash has been unavoidable across the United States. The Obama administration passed a law to limit meat in school lunches; more recently, meat alternatives such as Impossible Burger and Beyond Meat have flooded grocery-store shelves, and fast-food giants are even serving them up in burgers and nuggets. It all heralded a future that seemed more tempeh than tomahawk steak: “Could this be the beginning of the end of meat?” wrote The New York Times in 2022.
Now the goal of eating less meat has lost its appeal. A convergence of cultural and nutritional shifts, supercharged by the return of the noted hamburger-lover President Donald Trump, has thrust meat back to the center of the American plate. It’s not just MAGA bros and MAHA moms who resist plant-based eating. A wide swath of the U.S. seems to be sending a clear message: Nobody should feel bad about eating meat.
Many people are relieved to hear it. Despite all of the attention on why people should eat less meat—climate change, health, animal welfare—Americans have kept consuming more and more of it. From 2014 to 2024, annual per capita meat consumption rose by nearly 28 pounds, the equivalent of roughly 100 chicken breasts. One way to make sense of this “meat paradox,” as the ethicist Peter Singer branded it in The Atlantic in 2023, is that there is a misalignment between how people want to eat and the way they actually do. The thought of suffering cows releasing methane bombs into the atmosphere pains me, but I love a medium-rare porterhouse.
Yup, extra virgin olive oil is the only way to go.
Sure it was....
That's not the extremist part, it is the desire to get into the faces of people eating meat and trying to annoy them.It's interesting to me when people use that word. (extremist) I don't think there's anything 'extremist' about choosing to not partake in evil cruelty, abuse, and needless death and killing.
In fact, I would say it's the other way around. Paying for someone to torture and abuse beings who are completely innocent and defenseless, like babies or small children.... that to me, is more 'extremist.'
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Actually there is. Vegans must take supplements to obtain all the nutrients they need.
If you are true vegan, how do you get your protein? And if I may ask how much do you weigh? It's much easier being a vegan at 120 than at 205 which is what I weigh.
Science is still a thing, sadly for RFK jr and his corporate supporters.Very nice essay..hit quite a few nails on the head. The gist of it is simple...for most of us, the plant-based diet was more about social compulsion and less about actual desire.
I used the Yahoo link to get around the Atlantic paywall.
A few snippets..it's a longish essay:
Making America healthy again, it seems, starts with a double cheeseburger and fries. Earlier this month, Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. visited a Steak ’n Shake in Florida and shared a meal with Fox News’s Sean Hannity. The setting was no accident: Kennedy has praised the fast-food chain for switching its cooking oil from seed oil, which he falsely claims causes illness, to beef tallow. “People are raving about these french fries,” Kennedy said after eating one, before commending other restaurants that fry with beef tallow: Popeyes, Buffalo Wild Wings, Outback Steakhouse.
To put it another way, if you order fries at Steak ’n Shake, cauliflower wings at Buffalo Wild Wings, or the Bloomin’ Onion at Outback, your food will be cooked in cow fat. For more than a decade, cutting down on meat and other animal products has been idealized as a healthier, more ethical way to eat. Guidelines such as “Eat Food. Not Too Much. Mostly Plants” may have disproportionately appealed to liberals in big cities, but the meat backlash has been unavoidable across the United States. The Obama administration passed a law to limit meat in school lunches; more recently, meat alternatives such as Impossible Burger and Beyond Meat have flooded grocery-store shelves, and fast-food giants are even serving them up in burgers and nuggets. It all heralded a future that seemed more tempeh than tomahawk steak: “Could this be the beginning of the end of meat?” wrote The New York Times in 2022.
Now the goal of eating less meat has lost its appeal. A convergence of cultural and nutritional shifts, supercharged by the return of the noted hamburger-lover President Donald Trump, has thrust meat back to the center of the American plate. It’s not just MAGA bros and MAHA moms who resist plant-based eating. A wide swath of the U.S. seems to be sending a clear message: Nobody should feel bad about eating meat.
Many people are relieved to hear it. Despite all of the attention on why people should eat less meat—climate change, health, animal welfare—Americans have kept consuming more and more of it. From 2014 to 2024, annual per capita meat consumption rose by nearly 28 pounds, the equivalent of roughly 100 chicken breasts. One way to make sense of this “meat paradox,” as the ethicist Peter Singer branded it in The Atlantic in 2023, is that there is a misalignment between how people want to eat and the way they actually do. The thought of suffering cows releasing methane bombs into the atmosphere pains me, but I love a medium-rare porterhouse.
ROTFLMAO! You think that an internet SJW would make me angry? Sure. You give yourself too much credit. I'm amused at your attempts to be relevant.
LOL, and you falsely claim you're not trying to tell people what to eat.
