Air Force scraps course that used videos of Tuskegee Airmen and female WWII pilots

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

That has nothing to do with DEI which is just plain old communist propaganda.

You need to learn to distinguish what's real from what's not, or risk looking like a fool and being treated like one.

That you are not aware of the fact that the executive order which created affirmative action as well as the subsequent DEI initiatives RESULTED from the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 demonstrates that you're not nearly as smart or knowledgeable as you believe yourself to be.

Do you have something else you'd like to try to pick apart?

 

[Lisa558]

That you are not aware of the fact that the executive order which created affirmative action as well as the subsequent DEI initiatives RESULTED from the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 demonstrates that you're not nearly as smart or knowledgeable as you believe yourself to be.

Do you have something else you'd like to try to pick apart?

And if you weren’t so driven by racism, you would realize that the Civil Rights Act was meant to give all people equal opportunity regardless of skin color - not devise policies to favor one race over the other.

DEI has devolved into a ridiculous racist agenda.

 

[IM2]

Can you prove that? Beyond the fact that white people are the majority of the country, which is why they are the majority of the workforce, there isn't any proof that the were hired just because they were white. Unless you have this proof?

I've proven it. That stale excuse about whites being the majority doesn't cut it. You have purposefully chosen to ignore the entire history of this country to lie to yourself about this situation. You know whites are hired because they're white because you've seen it done and you probably have done it yourself. So don't ask me to prove what 249 years of history has already proven.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

But they proved themselves in battle instead of whining about their victimhood.

All before the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was created and accordingly before affirmative action & DEI which also means during the era when the United States still existed under Jim Crow and legal racial discrimination & segregation.

So they accomplished what they did under the exact same circumstances that Black people in America have always had to exist under - being doubted, expected to fail, have their efforts sabotaged, their accomplishments diminished, etc. You know, the whole nine yards.

The only thing that didn't impact them were the derogatory labels of "affirmative action/DEI hire" that all the rest of us get tagged with.

The fact that you all have to work so damn hard to try to diminish who we are, as well as our accomplishments should tell you all something.

Something about yourselves that it is very obvious and that you all are very loath to examine.

 

[IM2]

Me? You mean a Phi Bets Kappa graduate who has won National awards in her field? I guess the government does need DEI to justify hiring a less qualified black instead of me, which is the type of thing that HAPPENS ALL THE TIME with DEI.

P.S. I don’t like to brag like that, but IM2racist has told me repeatedly that I’ve only succeeded because of affirmative action. He can’t fathom that a white lady may have succeeded due to her own skills, intelligence, ability, and hard work.

You are a DEI hire. You can't fathom that a black person may have succeeded due to their own skills, intelligence, ability, and hard work. You have made comments in this regard time after time. The data shows that white women have benefitted the most from DEI, so as long as you run your mouth about black favoritism, I am going to be here to let you know that if you think every black person is unqualified and only achieved because we get special or extra help, then you re going be told that the only reason you have done anything is because you have been given extra or special help because that's what the facts show and if you were Phi Beta Kappa, you would have command of these facts. But the only "honor" you got was I Spreada Thigh.

 

[IM2]

And if you weren’t so driven by racism, you would realize that the Civil Rights Act was meant to give all people equal opportunity regardless of skin color - not devise policies to favor one race over the other.

DEI has devolved into a ridiculous racist agenda.

The Civil Rights Act was passed to provide equal rights to citizens who had not been getting them. Whites already had civil rights and it was whites who had devised policies to favor the white race over everyone else. Now a Phi Beta Kappa should know these things and whatever national awards you have received must have been for your brownies or cupcakes because you show complete ignorance relative to any type of policy.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

And if you weren’t so driven by racism, you would realize that the Civil Rights Act was meant to give all people equal opportunity regardless of skin color - not devise policies to favor one race over the other.

DEI has devolved into a ridiculous racist agenda.

You're using the wrong term. It's not "driven by racism", the proper term is "anti-racist".

 

[IM2]

He’s the biggest racist on the board who calls OTHERS racist for objecting to racist DEI policies. Ironic, isn’t it?

You are the racist here. Your objection to DEI is based on racism.

As some people celebrate Trump shutting down DEI in government they can't understand why they are being called racists. That's because their arguments always involve the claim that the policy is for blacks and the blacks who get the jobs are inherently unqualified or inferior to the white candidates that were supposedly passed over.

Furthermore making it about race, or specifically about blacks shows the overt racism in the opposition. DEI was never just for blacks.

Diversity, equity, and inclusion

Diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) are organizational frameworks which seek to promote the fair treatment and full participation of all people, particularly groups who have historically been underrepresented or subject to discrimination on the basis of identity or disability

It includes gender, ethnicity, sexual orientation, disability, age, culture, class, religion, and VETERANS.

If not for DEI, there would be no Governor Greg Abbott. There would not be a Kristi Noem or Pam Biondi. Every white woman in this forum who is barking about how unfair it is wouldn't exist either. An individual Trumps age who wants a job would have no chance. I can keep going. So this entire time when I have been calling those who oppose DEI and affirmative action racists, it's because by the definition of the word, the belief that a group is inherently superior or inferior has been the argument made by every person here who has argued against these policies. Not one of you ever took the time to consider that blacks aren't the only people who are included in DEI or Affirmative Action.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

Waaaaaa! You is a waaaaacist!!!!

Blacks made up 18%of the federal workforce even though they’re 12% of the population. Way past time to go strictly by merit.

Are you so racist that you think blacks won’t be hired if Governmwnt hiring managers are told to go by merit?

Your support of DEI is to allow the continution of anti-white hiring.

Geez, you are stupid. The 13% of U.S. population that is African American is not evenly distributed in every area of the country. Of course it's going to be higher in areas where the population is made up predominantly of Black people such as in Baltimore, Jackson, or Detroit just like it's bound to be lower in predominantly white areas such as Portland (either), Boise, or Salt Lake City.

It's one thing to alienate Black Americans, but Trump et al is alienating non-racist white Americans and allies as well, and while there is not a lot that can be done about his antics at the moment other than to stall things out in court until something can be organized, the path that he's heading down may be gratifying for a lot of people of the same ilk, they have to know where this all is headed. The fact that they are attempting to rush everything through immediately seems to indicate as much.

 

[IM2]

ALL Rise!

This Evenings Lesson:

The Night The Black Man Destroyed a Phi Beta Kappa

And if you weren’t so driven by racism, you would realize that the Civil Rights Act was meant to give all people equal opportunity regardless of skin color - not devise policies to favor one race over the other.

CIVIL RIGHTS ACT OF 1964
[Public Law 88–352; 78 Stat. 241]
[As Amended Through P.L. 114–95, Enacted December 10, 2015]

All persons shall be entitled to the full and equal enjoyment of the goods, services, facilities, privileges, advantages, and accommodations of any place of public accommodation, as defined in this section, without discrimination or segregation on the ground of race, color, religion, or national origin.

https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/COMPS-342/pdf/COMPS-342.pdf

When this law was passed, were whites discriminated or segregated against?

Since the true answer is no, then who were these laws made to protect?

Now, I expect the usual personal attacks and non answers because you racists in this forum cannot face the truth.

Do not make me go deeper into the law by making tired excuses or disingenuous comments that ignore why this law was necessary.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

Nah, but again, you show why things like DEI are necessary. Whites are not the majority of the federal workforce because of merit. Your consistent obtuseness in this regard is why you get the foul language. So just shut up and face the fact that merit has never been a priority for whites. The claim of merit is racist on its face because it assumes that blacks haven't earned the opportunity. There cannot be any anti-white hiring when whites are the majority of the federal workforce.

More than 1.5 million people work in the federal government. A new Office of Personnel Management report reveals that the proportions of white workers and men in the government are higher than their proportions of the US population overall. This is especially true at the senior level.

Three charts on diversity in the federal government's workforce

Lisa, you really should not try me on these matters. Because you WILL get taken to the woodshed.

So Lisa why don't you have a problem with whites being over-represented in the federal workforce in terms of their percentage of the population, but only when you perceive Blacks to be over represented? How do you justify this?

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

Doofus, I learned about the Tuskegee Airmen in elementary school in California in 1968.

Eleanor Roosevelt was the first one to promote the story of the Airmen in public education. There are plenty of pictures of her with Cecil Peterson. Charles Alfred Anderson took her on a flight piloted by the Airmen in 1941!

Tuskegee University has been offering degrees in aeronautical engineering since 1983. Do you seriously think any Tuskegee engineer fails to learn about the Airmen?

You're just whining. It's the only thing you ever do.

Well I never learned about them until college in a history of aviation class even though my grandfather was one.

Stands to reason though since the school is an aeronautical university.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

Being opposed to racist programs like DEI and AA and instead thinking hiring decisions should be race-blind is the opposite of racism.

You’re the racist here, supporting programs that discriminate against whites.

So we're back to this bullshit again huh? Alright...

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

The Civil Rights Act was passed to provide equal rights to citizens who had not been getting them. Whites already had civil rights and it was whites who had devised policies to favor the white race over everyone else. Now a Phi Beta Kappa should know these things and whatever national awards you have received must have been for your brownies or cupcakes because you show complete ignorance relative to any type of policy.

Sort of like Lisa, why the 14th amendment was ratified because even though the 13th amendment freed the slaves, the U.S. white racist society kept insisting on treating people of African descent as personae non gratae, in this case meaning lawfully ostracized. Then Supreme Court Justice Taney wrote in the infamous landmark SCOTUS ruling Dred Scott v Sanford that "the negro

“...had for more than a century before been regarded as beings of an inferior order, and altogether unfit to associate with the white race, either in social or political relations; and so far inferior, that they had no rights which the white man was bound to respect; and that the negro might justly and lawfully be reduced to slavery for his benefit.”​

​

Roger B. Taney, Chief Justice, Supreme Court, March 1857​

​

and that Black people were not citizens under the U.S. Constitution. Because this was a SCOTUS ruling, the only thing that could be done was a new amendment to the U.S. Constitution, the 14th Amendment which was created to remove the ambiguity regarding the citizenship status of people of African descent and their progeny but is also why we have this current battle going on regarding birthright citizenship and the way it's been interpreted for the last 100 years or so.

So when IM2 says that the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was passed to provide equal rights to citizens who had none at the time, he's absolutely rights since the Civil Rights Act effectively rendered legal racial discrimination and segregation laws due & void with its passage.

And while it's true that it applies to all people, all people at the time of its passage were not legally being discriminated against due to their race nor were they the reason that it needed to be created & passed.

 

[GLASNOST]

We know that blacks and women serve in all the armed forces. This is 2025, specifically pointing out gender and race is ....... uhhhhh ..... ummmmm ..... SEXIST and RACIST.

 

[Moonglow]

Being opposed to racist programs like DEI and AA and instead thinking hiring decisions should be race-blind is the opposite of racism.

You’re the racist here, supporting programs that discriminate against whites.

Before SS there was blind hiring and the only ones with a good job and plenty of jobs were the white males because of discrimination.

 

[Moonglow]

We know that blacks and women serve in all the armed forces. This is 2025, specifically pointing out gender and race is ....... uhhhhh ..... ummmmm ..... SEXIST and RACIST.

No, it's just history.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

Except I am not a racist, as every normal person here knows.

Lol, you are racist as hell as every black person here knows.

LOL. It was a public school. So why did the Jewish kids end up with the best grades?

Just another one of your fictional stories.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

Being opposed to racist programs like DEI and AA and instead thinking hiring decisions should be race-blind is the opposite of racism.

You’re the racist here, supporting programs that discriminate against whites.

When was it ever race-blind? How do they discriminate against whites when WHITE women are the biggest beneficiaries of these programs. The problem is white men feel discriminated against, because there position of privilege is being threatened.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

So I guess we don't need to teach the Army and Navy about the Revolutionary War.

NO.........No we don't.

There is a new professor in town and he is a "genius".