Actor Alec Baldwin fired prop gun on set of ‘Rust’ that killed cinematographer

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Those lessons were learned long ago. Baldwin, being an arrogant ass, chose to ignore all of those lessons and rules.

Doubtful. I doubt every, or even any, actor peers into the chambers of a prop revolver to make sure the round is a blank instead of a live round. They are probably all quite used to relying on the crew.

 

[marvin martian]

Doubtful. I doubt every, or even any, actor peers into the chambers of a prop revolver to make sure the round is a blank instead of a live round. They are probably all quite used to relying on the crew.

You can bet they'll start now. But actually, most of them already do that. It's just violent, arrogant assholes like Alec Baldwin who don't worry whether their inattentiveness might get someone killed.

 

[westwall]

Doubtful. I doubt every, or even any, actor peers into the chambers of a prop revolver to make sure the round is a blank instead of a live round. They are probably all quite used to relying on the crew.

Actors are instructed every time a weapon is handed to them to NOT POINT IT AT ANYONE.

 

[Lesh]

Look. This is stupid. Baldwin is being attacked because RWNJs hate him for mocking Trump.

Actors are not hunters. They are not at a range. They are ACTING.

Guns on a set are the responsibility of the armorer and the director ( less so).

The rules that normally govern gun use are different on a movie set. At times guns WILL be pointed at individuals and that is the nature of that work. It is the job of the armorer and safety people to makes sure that happens safely. To make sure that there are no live rounds on the set. Anywhere.

That clearly did not happen here. Corners were cut. Speed was apparently what was cared about over safety.

If Baldwin had any responsibility for THAT… then he is responsible.

If not… then not

 

[westwall]

Look. This is stupid. Baldwin is being attacked because RWNJs hate him for mocking Trump.

Actors are not hunters. They are not at a range. They are ACTING.

Guns on a set are the responsibility of the armorer and the director ( less so).

The rules that normally govern gun use are different on a movie set. At times guns WILL be pointed at individuals and that is the nature of that work. It is the job of the armorer and safety people to makes sure that happens safely. To make sure that there are no live rounds on the set. Anywhere.

That clearly did not happen here. Corners were cut. Speed was apparently what was cared about over safety.

If Baldwin had any responsibility for THAT… then he is responsible.

If not… then not

He's being attacked because he is an anti gun asshole who tweets about cops defending themselves who then breaks every safety rule in the fucking book and kills a talented woman you feckless clod!

 

[marvin martian]

If Baldwin had any responsibility for THAT… then he is responsible.

He has ALL responsibility for it, he is the producer.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Baldwin is being attacked because RWNJs hate him for mocking Trump.

Of course this is true. But these are the same people who would stomp on McCain's corpse, if the orange lard and master asked them to do so. So this isn't anywhere near a new low for them.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Look. This is stupid. Baldwin is being attacked because RWNJs hate him for mocking Trump.

Look. The only reason you aren't attacking him is he a left-wing nutjob; you see him as a kindred spirit, and thus, the need to defend him at all costs.
But, let's' look at the SAG rules....

SAG rules state that representatives must not point a firearm at anyone

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Actors are not hunters. They are not at a range. They are ACTING.

The SAG disagrees (emphasis theirs)

Guns on a set are the responsibility of the armorer and the director ( less so).

The SAG disagrees:

The rules that normally govern gun use are different on a movie set.

You're right - they are more stringent.
And they include:

At times guns WILL be pointed at individuals and that is the nature of that work. It is the job of the armorer and safety people to makes sure that happens safely. To make sure that there are no live rounds on the set. Anywhere.

The SAG disagrees.

That clearly did not happen here. Corners were cut. Speed was apparently what was cared about over safety.

Which in no way absolves Baldwin of his direct responsibility for killing someone, as HE, in his improper and unsafe handling of a firearm, cut corners. Had he, personally, followed all the SAG rules, the woman he killed would be alive today,

I applaud you and your willingness to put your ignorance on display.
Now, stop trying to blow Baldwin and admit - at least to yourself - that everything you said, above is absolute nonsense.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Now he knows.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Look. This is stupid. Baldwin is being attacked because RWNJs hate him for mocking Trump.

Actors are not hunters. They are not at a range. They are ACTING.

Guns on a set are the responsibility of the armorer and the director ( less so).

The rules that normally govern gun use are different on a movie set. At times guns WILL be pointed at individuals and that is the nature of that work. It is the job of the armorer and safety people to makes sure that happens safely. To make sure that there are no live rounds on the set. Anywhere.

That clearly did not happen here. Corners were cut. Speed was apparently what was cared about over safety.

If Baldwin had any responsibility for THAT… then he is responsible.

If not… then not

No, because Baldwin is a hateful moron.

 

[Lesh]

Look. The only reason you aren't attacking him is he a left-wing nutjob; you see him as a kindred spirit, and thus, the need to defend him at all costs.
But, let's' look at the SAG rules....

SAG rules state that representatives must not point a firearm at anyone

711web.com

The SAG disagrees (emphasis theirs)

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You're right - they are more stringent.
And they include:

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Which in no way absolves Baldwin of his direct responsibility for killing someone, as HE, in his improper and unsafe handling of a firearm, cut corners. Had he, personally, followed all the SAG rules, the woman he killed would be alive today,

I applaud you and your willingness to put your ignorance on display.
Now, stop trying to blow Baldwin and admit - at least to yourself - that everything you said, above is absolute nonsense.

Stupid fuck. Your own link acknowledges that sometimes actors are required to point weapons at people.

Jesus.

Just fuck off

 

[Weatherman2020]

Stupid fuck. Your own link acknowledges that sometimes actors are required to point weapons at people.

Jesus.

Just fuck off

So now Baldwin was required to shoot his gun at non actors?

 

[M14 Shooter]

Stupid fuck.

^^^
The irony

Your own link acknowledges that sometimes actors are required to point weapons at people.

Yes. On camera.
Was Baldwin on camera? Were they actually filming?
No?
I applaud you and your willingness to put your ignorance on display.
Now, stop trying to blow Baldwin and admit - at least to yourself - that everything you said, above is absolute nonsense.

 

[M14 Shooter]

So now Baldwin was required to shoot his gun at non actors?

You'll have to excuse her.
Baldwin turns her on, both in body and spirit.
She cannot hekp herself but defend him.

 

[Lesh]

Was Baldwin on camera? Were they actually filming?

It was a rehearsal. No difference

Ya know who actually IS responsible?

A. The 24 year old armorer who was working on just her second film. The same armorer responsible for at least 3 other gun incidences on this set. The same armorer who should have never allowed ANY live rounds on that set.

B. The Assistant Director who handed the gun to Baldwin and yelled "Cold gun" without actually checking

B. The producers who hired the unqualified armorer and pressured the crew to cut corner and save money.

Hey great news for your Baldwin obsession. He was an executive producer so that may include him.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

It was a rehearsal. No difference

Ya know who actually IS responsible?

A. The 24 year old armorer who was working on just her second film. The same armorer responsible for at least 3 other gun incidences on this set. The same armorer who should have never allowed ANY live rounds on that set.

B. The Assistant Director who handed the gun to Baldwin and yelled "Cold gun" without actually checking

B. The producers who hired the unqualified armorer and pressured the crew to cut corner and save money.

Hey great news for your Baldwin obsession. He was an executive producer so that may include him.

Alec Baldwin thought the armorer was really, really, cute.

 

[westwall]

Stupid fuck. Your own link acknowledges that sometimes actors are required to point weapons at people.

Jesus.

Just fuck off

Wrong, it said it sometimes happens, and it is WRONG TO DO SO ALWAYS!

 

[M14 Shooter]

It was a rehearsal. No difference

Of course there is - that's why they call is rehearsal
Do you really believe your nonsense?

Ya know who actually IS responsible?

Of course I do.
In descending order of culpability:
1: Baldwin, the shooter
2, 3, 4... everyone else involved with the firearm
How do -you- not know this?

I applaud you and your willingness to put your ignorance on display.
Now, stop trying to blow Baldwin and admit - at least to yourself - that everything you said, above is absolute nonsense.

 

[marvin martian]

So now Baldwin was required to shoot his gun at non actors?

The left are going to convince themselves a rich white guy who pulls a trigger and kills a woman isn't responsible for it if he's a DemoKKKrat. That's the state of the left in 2021.

 

[M14 Shooter]

The left are going to convince themselves a rich white guy who pulls a trigger and kills a woman isn't responsible for it if he's a DemoKKKrat. That's the state of the left in 2021.

That's -obviously- what certain people here (Lesh) think.