Abortion issue and State results says a lot about the nation's maturity

[martybegan]

That's right. Individuals have an obligation to support their community's health. Don't like that: move to your own island.

The thing is the shots were shown to have minimal impact on spread because they didn't stop you from getting it or spreading it, they just mitigated it.

When you got a Chicken Pox shot, you didn't get Chickenpox symptomatically.

 

[martybegan]

they were reinstated so your argument is...wrong.

They did it, it took a court to overturn it.

Are you really this fucking stupid?

Did they lose their jobs over the shot, yes or no?

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

The thing is the shots were shown to have minimal impact on spread because they didn't stop you from getting it or spreading it, they just mitigated it.

When you got a Chicken Pox shot, you didn't get Chickenpox symptomatically.

Nothing of the sort. The vaxxes minimalized the effect of Covid on the population as a whole. Individual reactions were less than those for flu or measles, etc.

You do not understand infectious disease science and theory.

Go live on your island, Marty, if won't abide by reasonable standards.

 

[martybegan]

Nothing of the sort. The vaxxes minimalized the effect of Covid on the population as a whole. Individual reactions were less than those for flu or measles, etc.

You do not understand infectious disease science and theory.

Go live on your island, Marty, if won't abide by reasonable standards.

Yes, of the sort. The vaccine just mitigated the symptoms, it did nothing to prevent people from going into being infectious.

The jab mandate was to stop spread of the disease, not mitigate individual cases, even if it did perform that task.

You can't re-write history, dipshit.

 

[Zincwarrior]

They did it, it took a court to overturn it.

Thats how things work in the real world. Someone oversteps, they are sued and lose.
Now provide some more examples?

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Yes, of the sort. The vaccine just mitigated the symptoms, it did nothing to prevent people from going into being infectious.

The jab mandate was to stop spread of the disease, not mitigate individual cases, even if it did perform that task.

You can't re-write history, dipshit.

You are so foolish as you get older; it only increases.

Yes, the vax minimalized the outcome individually and collectively. Your way would have led to incredible suffering.

 

[martybegan]

Thats how things work in the real world. Someone oversteps, they are sued and lose.
Now provide some more examples?

I don't have to. I provided one example. It happened. You can't deny it didn't happen.

 

[martybegan]

You are so foolish as you get older; it only increases.

Yes, the vax minimalized the outcome individually and collectively. Your way would have led to incredible suffering.

Children suffered due to remote learning being kept up too long. Old people suffered dying of old age alone because of draconian isolation protocols, that were ruined by sick residents being returned. People with other diseases suffered because of waiting due to COVID fear.

Again, stop trying to re-write history.

 

[Zincwarrior]

I don't have to. I provided one example. It happened. You can't deny it didn't happen.

But it was an example for my argument. Thank you for conceding.

 

[martybegan]

But it was an example for my argument. Thank you for conceding.

No, it wasn't. At the time they were fired for not getting the jab.

If they didn't sue, they would still be fired.

They got fired.

 

[Zincwarrior]

No, it wasn't. At the time they were fired for not getting the jab.

If they didn't sue, they would still be fired.

They got fired.

Again, thats how it works. You can be fired, and then sue for compensation. At least they could. In Red State land you can literally be fired for anything.

 

[martybegan]

Again, thats how it works. You can be fired, and then sue for compensation. At least they could. In Red State land you can literally be fired for anything.

Talk about not being able to admit to being wrong.

Get help.

 

[Frankenstein]

Neither do Democrats.

Dead ones do

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

The pro-woman and choice movements have made Dobbs their own cause.

The GOP is running around in a circular cage.

This is a Constitutional issue and the 10th Amendment applies. The Federal Government never had any business getting involved in the abortion issue. The Supreme Court got rid of an unconstitutional ruling and it is now left to the States decide as it should have been all along.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Talk about not being able to admit to being wrong.

Get help.

Yes you should, you evidently need it as you haven't supported your argument.

 

[martybegan]

This is a Constitutional issue and the 10th Amendment applies. The Federal Government never had any business getting involved in the abortion issue. The Supreme Court got rid of an unconstitutional ruling and it is now left to the States decide as it should have been all along.

To me the pro-life movement is like a dog that finally caught it's tail. It can't believe it actually did it, and now has no idea how to proceed.

Give them a few years to get their message set, as well as for the hardliners and the moderates to sort out.

 

[martybegan]

Yes you should, you evidently need it as you haven't supported your argument.

I linked actual proof it happened, but you pretend it didn't happen because years later a court compensated them and fixed the issue.

It happened.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Children suffered due to remote learning being kept up too long. Old people suffered dying of old age alone because of draconian isolation protocols, that were ruined by sick residents being returned. People with other diseases suffered because of waiting due to COVID fear.

Again, stop trying to re-write history.

You are tryin to re-write history, and you will be corrected every time you do it.

 

[martybegan]

You are tryin to re-write history, and you will be corrected every time you do it.

So you are saying what I posted didn't happen?

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

So you are saying what I posted didn't happen?

I am saying your interpretation is wrong. I always have, because you are always wrong on this subject.