Abortion issue and State results says a lot about the nation's maturity

[OldFlame]

OldFlame, stop being such a Karen.

We are a secular government, not a biblical one

You people are brain dead, seriously. Since we're 'secular', then any murder should be okay, but apparently it's not.

 

[Desperado]

Using abortion as a form of birth control is despicable. People who practice abortion are Satanist and baby killers.
Other than incest, rape and the mother's life is endangered there is no excuse

 

[Desperado]

OldFlame, stop being such a Karen.

We are a secular government, not a biblical one

Doesn't matter secular or biblical people know right from wrong

 

[OldFlame]

Doesn't matter secular or biblical people know right from wrong

They must frame it ONLY as a religious issue, it's the only way they can attack it and those that oppose it.

If they frame it only as a moral issue, they lose. That's why they constantly refer to 'religion' when talking about it and those who oppose it.

 

[Arlette]

You can say to hell with Him all you want, it doesn't change anything.

And killing your child has nothing to do with whether God exists or not, if you don't know that it's morally wrong on your own, then you're a morally bankrupt person regardless. I guess you think it's okay to go out and randomly murder people since you don't believe in God, or do you have to believe in God in order to think that's wrong too? You people have zero common sense or ability to use logic.

Only an idiot would believe that those who oppose abortion only do out of religious principle, anyone with any human fucking decency would oppose it.

This is boring

 

[OldFlame]

This is boring

Of course it is... You might as well have said, 'You win'... thanks!

 

[Arlette]

Of course it is... You might as well have said, 'You win'... thanks!

You win what? Ohio? The American people are largely in favor of abortion rights. You're outa touch if you think you're gonna move one vote with your sanctimonious drivel.

 

[OldFlame]

You win what? Ohio? The American people are largely in favor of abortion rights. You're outa touch if you think you're gonna move one vote with your sanctimonious drivel.

You're out of touch if you think you can continue to kill innocent children and retain your mental health or not answer for it eventually. Karma is a bitch.

 

[Arlette]

You're out of touch if you think you can continue to kill innocent children and retain your mental health or not answer for it eventually. Karma is a bitch.

Let me worry about that, you rest and have yourself a nice horse paste snack

 

[OldFlame]

Let me worry about that, you rest and have yourself a nice horse paste snack

They revel in insults, it's all they have when they've lost the argument.

 

[Dragonlady]

Well, according to our declaration of independence, they have those rights.

No they don't have any rights at all under your Constitution, because they don't exist as people yet.

So tell me how is the government supposed to know when this unborn person is conceived so it can record its existence?

Do you think doctors should have to report every positive pregnancy test done in their offices? What about home pregnancy tests? Will you make it a law that every woman who uses a home pregnancy test has to report the results?

Can pregnancy women claim the fetus as a dependent on their income taxes????

 

[Dragonlady]

You're out of touch if you think you can continue to kill innocent children and retain your mental health or not answer for it eventually. Karma is a bitch.

None of us have ever killed an "innocent child", but every time you ejaculate outside of a fertile woman's vagina, you are destroying tens of thousands of living sperm any one of which could impregnate an ova and create another human life.

Let's make masturbation, which kills millions of living sperm every single day, illegal, so as to save all of these innocent babies.

 

[Arlette]

They revel in insults, it's all they have when they've lost the argument.

What argument was there to lose? Abortion is very popular in America. They even increased in numbers after the SC struck down Roe. Americans love having a choice. You advocate anti choice, which is an election loser for the GOP.

 

[Blues Man]

No they don't have any rights at all under your Constitution, because they don't exist as people yet.


Can pregnancy women claim the fetus as a dependent on their income taxes????

Can the father of the unborn be forced to pay child support and provide medical insurance?

The people who want to give the unborn all the rights of personhood at conception have not thought that position through very well.

 

[Blues Man]

You people are brain dead, seriously. Since we're 'secular', then any murder should be okay, but apparently it's not.

Murder is the unlawful taking of a life.

if abortion is legal then by definition it is not unlawful

 

[OldFlame]

None of us have ever killed an "innocent child", but every time you ejaculate outside of a fertile woman's vagina, you are destroying tens of thousands of living sperm any one of which could impregnate an ova and create another human life.

Let's make masturbation, which kills millions of living sperm every single day, illegal, so as to save all of these innocent babies.

Equating sperm to a human life. You guys really need to get better material.

 

[OldFlame]

Murder is the unlawful taking of a life.

if abortion is legal then by definition it is not unlawful

So if murder wasn't against the law, it would be moral?

 

[Blues Man]

So if murder wasn't against the law, it would be moral?

It depends.

Morals are determined by society and different societies can have different morals.

 

[OldFlame]

What argument was there to lose? Abortion is very popular in America. They even increased in numbers after the SC struck down Roe. Americans love having a choice. You advocate anti choice, which is an election loser for the GOP.

Why do you think I care about the GOP? Abortion is 'popular' because we're a nation of irresponsible, stupid, and selfish people that apparently don't know how not to get pregnant and completely lack any moral compass. You'd think we were living in pre-early 1900's without any medical advancement to prevent that from happening. What kind of savages kill their own offspring for their own convenience or laziness? Apparently, ones like you. History will look back on you like they look upon primitive savages that scarified their children to the gods a thousand years ago, as uneducated, barbaric animals.

 

[OldFlame]

It depends.

Morals are determined by society and different societies can have different morals.

So morals are not absolute, if society decides it's okay to murder, then murder is moral?