Zone1 a mystery...until you see yourself through Christ

I just find it rather noticeable that many people need religion and a God to get on with their lives.
Do you need friends and family to "get on" with your life? Or, are they part of your life? God is like that, a part of one's daily life. Hold on--here comes another analogy: I very much enjoy gardening and I don't need anyone to get on with it. However, when one of my daughters are working in the garden with me, more is added to the time and the entire day. God is like that, adding more to the day. As a gardener, I may notice more about plants and flowers than one who has no interest in gardens, giving them no attention at all. It may be the same with God. Those who believe take note of His presence/work, whereas those who have no belief have no perception of it.
 
Do you need friends and family to "get on" with your life? Or, are they part of your life? God is like that, a part of one's daily life. Hold on--here comes another analogy: I very much enjoy gardening and I don't need anyone to get on with it. However, when one of my daughters are working in the garden with me, more is added to the time and the entire day. God is like that, adding more to the day. As a gardener, I may notice more about plants and flowers than one who has no interest in gardens, giving them no attention at all. It may be the same with God. Those who believe take note of His presence/work, whereas those who have no belief have no perception of it.
You never give up do you?

Yes I have a very nice and great family - after all I am a 66 year young man with a 10 year old daughter. So loads of action, fun and stress. And I have a big garden too and factually a lot of properties. Aside from that a couple of dear longtime friends who at times also join in a common holiday. And my daughter who doesn't manage to control me at all - now also got her dog and a cat - jezzus.

Aside from that I am a rather busy and active person and have a lot of hobbies and sports activities and can view onto three near death experiences. - and no, God never came into my mind.
My wife has a bit of a spiritual leaning, whilst my daughter right now is a rock solid Atheist. - ..ups just killed a mosquito.. -

So now - why would I need a God - especially one that doesn't even exist???
 
You never give up do you?

Yes I have a very nice and great family - after all I am a 66 year young man with a 10 year old daughter. So loads of action, fun and stress. And I have a big garden too and factually a lot of properties. Aside from that a couple of dear longtime friends who at times also join in a common holiday. And my daughter who doesn't manage to control me at all - now also got her dog and a cat - jezzus.

Aside from that I am a rather busy and active person and have a lot of hobbies and sports activities and can view onto three near death experiences. - and no, God never came into my mind.
My wife has a bit of a spiritual leaning, whilst my daughter right now is a rock solid Atheist.

So now - why would I need a God - especially one that doesn't even exist???
Many attest and testify to His existence. That is why I always return to, "Seek and you shall find."

It could be the one you want does not exist, but the one who does exist...definitely worth seeking.
 
Why should I seek something I have no need for and doesn't even exist?
I might just as well seek for a unicorn (which I don't need) - knowing it doesn't exist.
What exists outside of the universe? Is it nothing? Is it non-existence? Or is it existence?
 
I might just as well seek for a unicorn (which I don't need) - knowing it doesn't exist.
At least with a unicorn you have an idea of what you would be looking for. Not so for God. I doubt you have ever given it any serious consideration. But why are you even here talking about God in the first place? I've never understood that about atheists. At least the ones that do it anyway.
 
Why should I seek something I have no need for and doesn't even exist?
I might just as well seek for a unicorn (which I don't need) - knowing it doesn't exist.
Q & A from the Baltimore Catechism (which I learned as a child):
  • Q: Why did God make me?
  • A: God made me to know him, love him, and serve him in this world and to be happy with him in the next.
As a child it made sense to me that in order to know him, I first had to seek and find him. I learned I was to love him above all else, so I made a list of all those I loved....God was at the bottom of the list, so I had some work to do there as well. Serve him: At last! I was Mommy and Daddy's little helper, so I got that. Every so often I discovered a worm in trouble on a hot sidewalk, so I saved the worm. To be happy in the next world, I also concluded I needed to learn to be happy in this one.

I did learn God was there to find for those who were seeking. It may be easier to seek and find God in childhood, because as a child I had no expectations of God. I did not expect him to do this or that, or even be like this or that. I simply wanted to know, because knowing was what was on the list. This took about ten years. Adults, I think have this expectation of what God should be, and that he should show up immediately.

But to return to you: You see yourself as having no need for God. Does this mean you see people of faith as needy people? Many believers have the opposite perspective that God values us in his creation, and that he values what we can contribute to creation, whether that creation be something for the physical world, something for another, or something within ourselves. Analogy of myself: I see myself an apprentice to the master of creativity/creation.

Another aspect of some atheists is that they see people of faith spending time in church, in prayer, in charitable works, in giving time and material goods to others. Atheists can also be giving people, but the difference is usually they see an opportunity to give; it's convenient so they give. They usually don't seek opportunities to give/lend a hand. Another trait of some atheists (and this includes my husband) is that he truly wants to get through this life on his own. He says it is likely there is an agnostic aspect to his atheism. My grandfather told me that he was one who did try to believe, but that belief simply was not there, so he was working out this life on his own. The point is that we cannot lump all atheists into one category--and nor can that be done that to all believers.

God does exist, but to those who are convinced he does not: Do you believe there is a next life? If so, how are you preparing for it?
 
You confuse "fanaticism" or "helplessness" displayed/expressed by a mental weak person who therefore needs religion, with a "trained" mental strength of a person that can therefore handle his life without being in need for religion.
You mean the "trained" mental strength that it takes to believe in Cosmic Magic? Life springing from inanimate matter? Yes that certainly takes a lot of "mental strength".
 
You mean the "trained" mental strength that it takes to believe in Cosmic Magic? Life springing from inanimate matter? Yes that certainly takes a lot of "mental strength".
Only a totally backward religious person would refer to SCIENCE as Magic. Furthermore you are obviously confusing rudimentary religious inspired alchemy combing spirituality with natural science, whilst adopting the belief of the holy trinities 3 principles as a means for metal transformation :rolleyes:.

That many people find the "concept", of a God having created the Universe and the earth in 6 days naturally far more appealing in regards to their mental capacity, then the extreme complex and not yet fully explored scientific approach towards the Big Bang theory is understood.

That in 2026 even religious or agnostic theist renowned scientists, cling onto their belief - via solely the "Higgs boson" - named only by those scientists the "god particle", seems to have evaded you entirely.
 
That many people find the "concept", of a God having created the Universe and the earth in 6 days naturally far more appealing
In Hebrew 'day' is used for a period of time, not only 24 hours. We can see that in English, too--i.e., in my grandparents' say. Think of it as, In the first time period, light was created, and the separation of light and dark. In the second time period, an expanse was created to separate water and sky.
 
God does exist,
For me or any other Atheist he doesn't - and there is no need for a God either.
Do you believe there is a next life? If so, how are you preparing for it?
As an Atheist I don't belief into the religious/spiritual concept of a "soul" either, since an atheist doesn't buy into supernatural entities, but solely relies onto empirical evidence. Therefore consciousness aka soul, is a function of the brain that ceases entirely upon death since it's neural transmitters die off with the brain.

Since I only have one life - I wouldn't be willing to waste any of its time onto religious thoughts or time wasting religious activities.
So all the best to you for the future resurrection of your cremated or buried body, and eternal life in a new heaven and new earth.
 
In Hebrew 'day' is used for a period of time, not only 24 hours. We can see that in English, too--i.e., in my grandparents' say. Think of it as, In the first time period, light was created, and the separation of light and dark. In the second time period, an expanse was created to separate water and sky.
I am not a Hebrew either.
But yeah sure - like Noah getting 800 years old.
 
For me or any other Atheist he doesn't - and there is no need for a God either.

As an Atheist I don't belief into the religious/spiritual concept of a "soul" either, since an atheist doesn't buy into supernatural entities, but solely relies onto empirical evidence. Therefore consciousness aka soul, is a function of the brain that ceases entirely upon death since it's neural transmitters die off with the brain.

Since I only have one life - I wouldn't be willing to waste any of its time onto religious thoughts or time wasting religious activities.
So all the best to you for the future resurrection of your cremated or buried body, and eternal life in a new heaven and new earth.
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Good for you.

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It has been said, Man is a mystery to himself until he sees himself through Christ.

For those who have no interest/wish to be Christian, this can be phrased as, "Man is a mystery to himself until he sees himself through the Word of God.

Try taking a look at yourself through this lens. Can you perceive yourself differently?
Yes, and it's gross. Willing slave to a celestial dictator with the morality of a sociopathic, malignant narcissist?

No thanks.
 
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Only a totally backward religious person would refer to SCIENCE as Magic
As I have posted many times, I am a DEIST. Look up what that means. As for SCIENCE I find it laughable that staunch atheists tout SCIENCE until the science doesn't support their views. Then they casually ignore it, case in point the Second Law of Thermodynamics.
 
As an Atheist I don't belief into the religious/spiritual concept of a "soul" either, since an atheist doesn't buy into supernatural entities, but solely relies onto empirical evidence.
I get it. It's the difference between settlers and pioneers. Settlers are very happy with what they know and can see in front of them. Pioneers and explorers are equally curious about what is beyond.
 
As I have posted many times, I am a DEIST. Look up what that means. As for SCIENCE I find it laughable that staunch atheists tout SCIENCE until the science doesn't support their views. Then they casually ignore it, case in point the Second Law of Thermodynamics.
A deist also believes into a supernatural being - aka a creator. So???

I don't know where as to: "heat moves spontaneously from hot to cold". To move heat from cold to hot requires external energy, you got a problem with. And FYI its a statistical law and not an "absolute" one, e.g. microscopic scales involving a few particles. Whereas it holds true for all macroscopic systems.

AI:
In summary, the second law is one of the most reliable and heavily tested principles in physics. While it has exceptions at the particle level, it is not "wrong" in the contexts for which it was designed.
 
I get it. It's the difference between settlers and pioneers. Settlers are very happy with what they know and can see in front of them. Pioneers and explorers are equally curious about what is beyond.
No you didn't get it.
A person that seeks for the fountain of youth isn't a pioneer nor an explorer, but a religious and myths driven adventurer and fool.
Same goes for the one who seeks a living Unicorn.
 
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