A little more about evolution by the experts.

[Woodznutz]

Evidence customarily associated with floods.

There would not have been uniform evidence, and any evidence has been degraded over time.

 

[Woodznutz]

What evidence is there for Ark sailing adventures prompted by angry gods determined to kill most of humanity?

There seems to be evidence of a population bottleneck about that time.

DNA – Proof of Noah’s Flood

Genetic evidence for the Flood – a human population bottleneck matching Noah’s Flood (Genesis 6-9) – is glaringly obvious when our DNA is examined truthfully and logically. You wi…

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[Hollie]

The evidence has been degraded over time.

What evidence has been degraded?

 

[Hollie]

There seems to be evidence of a population bottleneck about that time.

DNA – Proof of Noah’s Flood

Genetic evidence for the Flood – a human population bottleneck matching Noah’s Flood (Genesis 6-9) – is glaringly obvious when our DNA is examined truthfully and logically. You wi…

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What evidence? Someone's personal blog has a curious lack of evidence, just personal opinion.

 

[Woodznutz]

What evidence has been degraded?

Fragile evidence left on the surface of the earth degrades quickly. Subsequent flooding in flood-prone areas destroys previous flood evidence.

 

[Woodznutz]

What evidence? Someone's personal blog has a curious lack of evidence, just personal opinion.

Reminds one of the ToE.

 

[Hollie]

Fragile evidence left on the surface of the earth degrades quickly. Subsequent flooding in flood-prone areas destroys previous flood evidence.

What exactly is the ''fragile evidence'' that was degraded?

Was there another global flood subsequent to Noah's ark adventure that degraded evidence of that earlier flood?

 

[Hollie]

Reminds one of the ToE.

The US has many of the best colleges and universities that have entire research and teaching departments dedicated to evolutionary and biological sciences.

Can you point us toward any of the colleges and universities that have ark studies and research programs?

 

[Orangecat]

Any expert on evolution would have to either be guessing or be an immortal.
Our lifetimes are far too short to know for certain.
Our species' ability to record history accurately is also far too short.
That doesn't mean creationists are correct, either.
It just means that no one really knows.

Here's good questions for all parties:
Why?
Why are things evolving?
Why did God create all things?

 

[Woodznutz]

What exactly is the ''fragile evidence'' that was degraded?

Was there another global flood subsequent to Noah's ark adventure that degraded evidence of that earlier flood?

There was no evidence of a global flood per se. The advancing and receding waters would have expressed as thousands of 'local' flood events with widely differing characteristics. Water moving slowly on steep slopes would leave little if any evidence at all.

 

[Woodznutz]

The US has many of the best colleges and universities that have entire research and teaching departments dedicated to evolutionary and biological sciences.

Can you point us toward any of the colleges and universities that have ark studies and research programs?

Such schools would be in the business of debunking flood stories, not studying them. Sadly, they debunk a flood story of their own making. Sort of a straw man flood story. If they researched that actual story they might find it more interesting.

Evolutionary theory is filled with gaps that are filled with suppositions. Do that with the flood story and you've got something really interesting.

 

[Hollie]

There was no evidence of a global flood per se. The advancing and receding waters would have expressed as thousands of 'local' flood events with widely differing characteristics. Water moving slowly on steep slopes would leave little if any evidence at all.

No evidence ''per se'' seems to be a different argument from ''There would not have been uniform evidence...''

That's odd because many creation ministries insist the Grand Canyon was the result of the Noah flood and the Grand Canyon is pretty dramatic evidence of flood and water erosion.... just over geologic timescales.

 

[Hollie]

Such schools would be in the business of debunking flood stories, not studying them. Sadly, they debunk a flood story of their own making. Sort of a straw man flood story. If they researched that actual story they might find it more interesting.

Evolutionary theory is filled with gaps that are filled with suppositions. Do that with the flood story and you've got something really interesting.

Noah's Ark VBS Vacation Bible School

The "Let's Build an Ark" Vacation Bible school program includes VBS teacher guides, worship service, music, snack ideas, craft ideas, a six foot model ark, advertising, lessons, and much more. All lessons are deeply rooted in Scripture and written in both KJV and NIV formats.

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I did find a school with a very comprehensive ark studies program that seems to promote vs. debunk the flood fable.

Not sure about the status of their accreditation.

 

[Woodznutz]

No evidence ''per se'' seems to be a different argument from ''There would not have been uniform evidence...''

That's odd because many creation ministries insist the Grand Canyon was the result of the Noah flood and the Grand Canyon is pretty dramatic evidence of flood and water erosion.... just over geologic timescales.

Of course there would be areas of dramatic evidence depending on the topography, soil type, and vegetation. But generally there would be little. Most of the earth's surface was in a relatively pristine state having been recently renewed by the Genesis (re)creation. This means heavy vegetation in the form of grasslands that are able to withstand flooding. A study of the grasslands of the west prior to their being plowed up will reveal their hardiness in this regard. The sod with it's deep root system was even used by the settlers and Indians to build crude houses.

 

[Woodznutz]

Noah's Ark VBS Vacation Bible School

The "Let's Build an Ark" Vacation Bible school program includes VBS teacher guides, worship service, music, snack ideas, craft ideas, a six foot model ark, advertising, lessons, and much more. All lessons are deeply rooted in Scripture and written in both KJV and NIV formats.

kremerresources.com

I did find a school with a very comprehensive ark studies program that seems to promote vs. debunk the flood fable.

Not sure about the status of their accreditation.

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The ark model is pretty good, but the narrative read by the kid repeated some of the usual falsehoods. The woodpile might have served as firewood for the furnace on the ark but certainly not for building materials.

 

[DukeU]

I don't need your silly threats. Thanks.

Smart people should know the difference between threats and promises.

 

[Hollie]

Of course there would be areas of dramatic evidence depending on the topography, soil type, and vegetation. But generally there would be little. Most of the earth's surface was in a relatively pristine state having been recently renewed by the Genesis (re)creation. This means heavy vegetation in the form of grasslands that are able to withstand flooding. A study of the grasslands of the west prior to their being plowed up will reveal their hardiness in this regard. The sod with it's deep root system was even used by the settlers and Indians to build crude houses.

So, what evidence can you attribute to the flood from the Noah fable?

 

[Hollie]

Smart people should know the difference between threats and promises.

Those same people should not presume to be the self-assigned enforcers for the gods.

 

[Hollie]

The ark model is pretty good, but the narrative read by the kid repeated some of the usual falsehoods. The woodpile might have served as firewood for the furnace on the ark but certainly not for building materials.

What is the 'ark model''?

 

[Woodznutz]

What is the 'ark model''?

From the linked article you provided.