A critical issue no one is talking about: repairing our infrastructure system

[Billy000]

Putting aside the economic benefit of creating jobs, repairing our nation's infrastructure must be a priority.

The nation's electrical grid - which is antiquated and still declining - is very fragile. It is almost completely centralized and therefore is too big to fail. The US has the most power outages of any other developed nation on earth. Some experts believe eventually there will be power outages on a nationwide scale completely rendering the country useless. Security specifically is weak in this sector nationwide. What's to stop cyber terrorists from taking advantage of this?

Flint's crisis is only the beginning when it comes to our water supply. More and more examples will happen because of the federal government's lack of investment in fixing our antiquated and declining systems.

That's all pretty bad and republicans refuse to do ANYTHING about it.

Hillary has a 5 year plan to help repair the nation's infrastructure costing $275 billion. That dollar amount is unfortunately not high enough, but it seems somwhat achievable from a policy standpoint. If Hillary became president, however, the republicans in the House would still carry on with the scorched earth policy obstruction we saw under Obama. Republicans and their puppets at Fox News will predictably ridicule the plan with faux outrage and say NOTHING positive about it therefore she won't get anywhere with it.

See if republican in office were mature adults they would say about her theoretical plan "okay I don't like this or that, but I will work with you on x y and z to make this bill work."

Unfortunately republicans are complete pussies who can't compromise or be objective about anything Obama or Hillary come up with as policy ideas. That's their pathetic way of saving face when losing elections. If Hillary wins, the republicans will act like children out of reaction to losing the White House for 3 terms. Hillary will get little accomplished because of their uncompromising obstruction.

The question is: how can we fix this problem? When will people realize how serious this is?

 

[gipper]

WTF!!!

Big Ears doubles the national debt is just 8 years, but our infrastructure still sucks...WTF!!!

"Tax and spend....but make sure to NEVER fix the problem. This way we can continue to dupe stupid Americans over and over again into accepting an ever expanding central government. It works like magic" - DNC Platform

 

[ScienceRocks]

Maybe it is because we're on a loserterian board that has a stated goal of abolishing all government? You're 100% right but good luck convincing anyone here.

 

[Billy000]

WTF!!!

Big Ears doubles the national debt is just 8 years, but our infrastructure still sucks...WTF!!!

"Tax and spend....but make sure to NEVER fix the problem. This way we can continue to dupe stupid Americans over and over again into accepting an ever expanding central government. It works like magic" - DNC Platform

Well see there is factual information you clearly don't know. Only 50 billion went to this funding under Obama.

 

[owebo]

WTF!!!

Big Ears doubles the national debt is just 8 years, but our infrastructure still sucks...WTF!!!

"Tax and spend....but make sure to NEVER fix the problem. This way we can continue to dupe stupid Americans over and over again into accepting an ever expanding central government. It works like magic" - DNC Platform

It's actually gotten far worse under Obama......

 

[ScienceRocks]

we need to repair and build more infrastructure! We need to do it fast.

 

[gipper]

WTF!!!

Big Ears doubles the national debt is just 8 years, but our infrastructure still sucks...WTF!!!

"Tax and spend....but make sure to NEVER fix the problem. This way we can continue to dupe stupid Americans over and over again into accepting an ever expanding central government. It works like magic" - DNC Platform

Well see there is factual information you clearly don't know. Only 50 billion went to this funding under Obama.

So then you agree that Big Ears, who has spent like a drunken sailor, ignored infrastructure. All those TRILLIONS of dollars your Messiah spent, but he forgot about infrastructure. What was all that money spent on?

 

[Billy000]

WTF!!!

Big Ears doubles the national debt is just 8 years, but our infrastructure still sucks...WTF!!!

"Tax and spend....but make sure to NEVER fix the problem. This way we can continue to dupe stupid Americans over and over again into accepting an ever expanding central government. It works like magic" - DNC Platform

Well see there is factual information you clearly don't know. Only 50 billion went to this funding under Obama.

So then you agree that Big Ears, who has spent like a drunken sailor, ignored infrastructure. All those TRILLIONS of dollars your Messiah spent, but he forgot about infrastructure. What was all that money spent on?

It's pretty easy to Google. You should try it. Half of it went to tax cuts. A good portion went to extending unemployment benefits to the millions that lost their jobs to the recession.

 

[bullwinkle]

WTF!!!

Big Ears doubles the national debt is just 8 years, but our infrastructure still sucks...WTF!!!

"Tax and spend....but make sure to NEVER fix the problem. This way we can continue to dupe stupid Americans over and over again into accepting an ever expanding central government. It works like magic" - DNC Platform

It's actually gotten far worse under Obama......

It's gotten worse alright. Do you think it is a self-healing problem? Did the previous President fix the blackout during his presidency? No? Why not? Your complaint of 'tax and spend' without fixing the problem sounds like a page from the Republican playbook. Excepting the military, of course.

 

[owebo]

WTF!!!

Big Ears doubles the national debt is just 8 years, but our infrastructure still sucks...WTF!!!

"Tax and spend....but make sure to NEVER fix the problem. This way we can continue to dupe stupid Americans over and over again into accepting an ever expanding central government. It works like magic" - DNC Platform

It's actually gotten far worse under Obama......

It's gotten worse alright. Do you think it is a self-healing problem? Did the previous President fix the blackout during his presidency? No? Why not? Your complaint of 'tax and spend' without fixing the problem sounds like a page from the Republican playbook. Excepting the military, of course.

You seem not to understand infrastructure....l

 

[bullwinkle]

WTF!!!

Big Ears doubles the national debt is just 8 years, but our infrastructure still sucks...WTF!!!

"Tax and spend....but make sure to NEVER fix the problem. This way we can continue to dupe stupid Americans over and over again into accepting an ever expanding central government. It works like magic" - DNC Platform

It's actually gotten far worse under Obama......

It's gotten worse alright. Do you think it is a self-healing problem? Did the previous President fix the blackout during his presidency? No? Why not? Your complaint of 'tax and spend' without fixing the problem sounds like a page from the Republican playbook. Excepting the military, of course.

You seem not to understand infrastructure....l

owebo, you could be right. But like the commercial about the security 'monitor', telling me that isn't enough. If you can, please tell me where I mis-understand. Thanks.

 

[owebo]

WTF!!!

Big Ears doubles the national debt is just 8 years, but our infrastructure still sucks...WTF!!!

"Tax and spend....but make sure to NEVER fix the problem. This way we can continue to dupe stupid Americans over and over again into accepting an ever expanding central government. It works like magic" - DNC Platform

It's actually gotten far worse under Obama......

It's gotten worse alright. Do you think it is a self-healing problem? Did the previous President fix the blackout during his presidency? No? Why not? Your complaint of 'tax and spend' without fixing the problem sounds like a page from the Republican playbook. Excepting the military, of course.

You seem not to understand infrastructure....l

owebo, you could be right. But like the commercial about the security 'monitor', telling me that isn't enough. If you can, please tell me where I mis-understand. Thanks.

Infrastructure is a long play game. At the time of design, we set up operation and maintenance programs to last the life of the infrastructure and then replace it. So essentially, yes, it is a self healing problem. Fees from use are the basis of the funding of its useful life.

What is killing infrastructure is that back when sane people ran the country (read non democrats) we did too good of a job. The funds we set up were too big not to be molested and democrats robbed them to the point where they are now gone.

I recently visited St. Louis on business, for infrastructure....the mayor told me he is broke and that every penny coming in is being spent on city obligations (read Union pensions and benefits for retired workers) and that they have no ability to replace infrastructure......the city is in a death spiral anyone looking can see....it used to be an industrial mecca......

It's the long play game of infrastructure many people don't understand....

 

[bullwinkle]

WTF!!!

Big Ears doubles the national debt is just 8 years, but our infrastructure still sucks...WTF!!!

"Tax and spend....but make sure to NEVER fix the problem. This way we can continue to dupe stupid Americans over and over again into accepting an ever expanding central government. It works like magic" - DNC Platform

It's actually gotten far worse under Obama......

It's gotten worse alright. Do you think it is a self-healing problem? Did the previous President fix the blackout during his presidency? No? Why not? Your complaint of 'tax and spend' without fixing the problem sounds like a page from the Republican playbook. Excepting the military, of course.

You seem not to understand infrastructure....l

owebo, you could be right. But like the commercial about the security 'monitor', telling me that isn't enough. If you can, please tell me where I mis-understand. Thanks.

Infrastructure is a long play game. At the time of design, we set up operation and maintenance programs to last the life of the infrastructure and then replace it. So essentially, yes, it is a self healing problem. Fees from use are the basis of the funding of its useful life.

What is killing infrastructure is that back when sane people ran the country (read non democrats) we did too good of a job. The funds we set up were too big not to be molested and democrats robbed them to the point where they are now gone.

I recently visited St. Louis on business, for infrastructure....the mayor told me he is broke and that every penny coming in is being spent on city obligations (read Union pensions and benefits for retired workers) and that they have no ability to replace infrastructure......the city is in a death spiral anyone looking can see....it used to be an industrial mecca......

It's the long play game of infrastructure many people don't understand....

Thank you for the response, owebo. I appreciate your explanation, simplified for my benefit. That's the way I need it.Your reference to city pensions and retirement benefits is also what happened to my area's 'kitty'. My only reservation against accepting your whole premise it the placing of blame. It's not THAT simple.

 

[bendog]

Putting aside the economic benefit of creating jobs, repairing our nation's infrastructure must be a priority.

The nation's electrical grid - which is antiquated and still declining - is very fragile. It is almost completely centralized and therefore is too big to fail. The US has the most power outages of any other developed nation on earth. Some experts believe eventually there will be power outages on a nationwide scale completely rendering the country useless. Security specifically is weak in this sector nationwide. What's to stop cyber terrorists from taking advantage of this?

Flint's crisis is only the beginning when it comes to our water supply. More and more examples will happen because of the federal government's lack of investment in fixing our antiquated and declining systems.

That's all pretty bad and republicans refuse to do ANYTHING about it.

Hillary has a 5 year plan to help repair the nation's infrastructure costing $275 billion. That dollar amount is unfortunately not high enough, but it seems somwhat achievable from a policy standpoint. If Hillary became president, however, the republicans in the House would still carry on with the scorched earth policy obstruction we saw under Obama. Republicans and their puppets at Fox News will predictably ridicule the plan with faux outrage and say NOTHING positive about it therefore she won't get anywhere with it.

See if republican in office were mature adults they would say about her theoretical plan "okay I don't like this or that, but I will work with you on x y and z to make this bill work."

Unfortunately republicans are complete pussies who can't compromise or be objective about anything Obama or Hillary come up with as policy ideas. That's their pathetic way of saving face when losing elections. If Hillary wins, the republicans will act like children out of reaction to losing the White House for 3 terms. Hillary will get little accomplished because of their uncompromising obstruction.

The question is: how can we fix this problem? When will people realize how serious this is?

Naw. Trump's gonna fix it. It'll be yuuuuuuuuuuge.

Donald Trump's Big-Spending Infrastructure Dream

 

[LordBrownTrout]

We were all told the shovel ready jobs, trillion dollar economic recovery act, solved that.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Putting aside the economic benefit of creating jobs, repairing our nation's infrastructure must be a priority.

The nation's electrical grid - which is antiquated and still declining - is very fragile. It is almost completely centralized and therefore is too big to fail. The US has the most power outages of any other developed nation on earth. Some experts believe eventually there will be power outages on a nationwide scale completely rendering the country useless. Security specifically is weak in this sector nationwide. What's to stop cyber terrorists from taking advantage of this?

Flint's crisis is only the beginning when it comes to our water supply. More and more examples will happen because of the federal government's lack of investment in fixing our antiquated and declining systems.

That's all pretty bad and republicans refuse to do ANYTHING about it.

Hillary has a 5 year plan to help repair the nation's infrastructure costing $275 billion. That dollar amount is unfortunately not high enough, but it seems somwhat achievable from a policy standpoint. If Hillary became president, however, the republicans in the House would still carry on with the scorched earth policy obstruction we saw under Obama. Republicans and their puppets at Fox News will predictably ridicule the plan with faux outrage and say NOTHING positive about it therefore she won't get anywhere with it.

See if republican in office were mature adults they would say about her theoretical plan "okay I don't like this or that, but I will work with you on x y and z to make this bill work."

Unfortunately republicans are complete pussies who can't compromise or be objective about anything Obama or Hillary come up with as policy ideas. That's their pathetic way of saving face when losing elections. If Hillary wins, the republicans will act like children out of reaction to losing the White House for 3 terms. Hillary will get little accomplished because of their uncompromising obstruction.

The question is: how can we fix this problem? When will people realize how serious this is?

Hillary has a 5 year plan to help repair the nation's infrastructure costing $275 billion.

Oh great 150 billion to Unions and payback to other Hillary's friends

75 billion planting more trees and making up signs saying hillary planted them

And 100 billion not spent, because there is no shovel ready jobs

 

[Silhouette]

A critical issue no one is talking about: repairing our infrastructure system

Kasich would be talking about it. But they made sure he stayed out of the limelight.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Putting aside the economic benefit of creating jobs, repairing our nation's infrastructure must be a priority.

The nation's electrical grid - which is antiquated and still declining - is very fragile. It is almost completely centralized and therefore is too big to fail. The US has the most power outages of any other developed nation on earth. Some experts believe eventually there will be power outages on a nationwide scale completely rendering the country useless. Security specifically is weak in this sector nationwide. What's to stop cyber terrorists from taking advantage of this?

Flint's crisis is only the beginning when it comes to our water supply. More and more examples will happen because of the federal government's lack of investment in fixing our antiquated and declining systems.

That's all pretty bad and republicans refuse to do ANYTHING about it.

Hillary has a 5 year plan to help repair the nation's infrastructure costing $275 billion. That dollar amount is unfortunately not high enough, but it seems somwhat achievable from a policy standpoint. If Hillary became president, however, the republicans in the House would still carry on with the scorched earth policy obstruction we saw under Obama. Republicans and their puppets at Fox News will predictably ridicule the plan with faux outrage and say NOTHING positive about it therefore she won't get anywhere with it.

See if republican in office were mature adults they would say about her theoretical plan "okay I don't like this or that, but I will work with you on x y and z to make this bill work."

Unfortunately republicans are complete pussies who can't compromise or be objective about anything Obama or Hillary come up with as policy ideas. That's their pathetic way of saving face when losing elections. If Hillary wins, the republicans will act like children out of reaction to losing the White House for 3 terms. Hillary will get little accomplished because of their uncompromising obstruction.

The question is: how can we fix this problem? When will people realize how serious this is?

We gave President Kardashian a trillion $$... shouldn't this have been done already?

 

[Picaro]

Putting aside the economic benefit of creating jobs, repairing our nation's infrastructure must be a priority.

The nation's electrical grid - which is antiquated and still declining - is very fragile. It is almost completely centralized and therefore is too big to fail. The US has the most power outages of any other developed nation on earth. Some experts believe eventually there will be power outages on a nationwide scale completely rendering the country useless. Security specifically is weak in this sector nationwide. What's to stop cyber terrorists from taking advantage of this?

Flint's crisis is only the beginning when it comes to our water supply. More and more examples will happen because of the federal government's lack of investment in fixing our antiquated and declining systems.

That's all pretty bad and republicans refuse to do ANYTHING about it.

Hillary has a 5 year plan to help repair the nation's infrastructure costing $275 billion. That dollar amount is unfortunately not high enough, but it seems somwhat achievable from a policy standpoint. If Hillary became president, however, the republicans in the House would still carry on with the scorched earth policy obstruction we saw under Obama. Republicans and their puppets at Fox News will predictably ridicule the plan with faux outrage and say NOTHING positive about it therefore she won't get anywhere with it.

See if republican in office were mature adults they would say about her theoretical plan "okay I don't like this or that, but I will work with you on x y and z to make this bill work."

Unfortunately republicans are complete pussies who can't compromise or be objective about anything Obama or Hillary come up with as policy ideas. That's their pathetic way of saving face when losing elections. If Hillary wins, the republicans will act like children out of reaction to losing the White House for 3 terms. Hillary will get little accomplished because of their uncompromising obstruction.

The question is: how can we fix this problem? When will people realize how serious this is?

Nobody cares because all the engineers will be imported via green cards, and the vast majority of the labor, skilled and unskilled, will be criminal illegal aliens from South America, and the workmanship will be total crap, as the 'contractors' will all be political cronies of whichever 'Party' gets to hand out the contracts and won't know a thing about construction, much less managing any project that will ever get finished. Few jobs will be 'created' for Americans; it might as well be spent in China or Somalia.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Putting aside the economic benefit of creating jobs, repairing our nation's infrastructure must be a priority.

The nation's electrical grid - which is antiquated and still declining - is very fragile. It is almost completely centralized and therefore is too big to fail. The US has the most power outages of any other developed nation on earth. Some experts believe eventually there will be power outages on a nationwide scale completely rendering the country useless. Security specifically is weak in this sector nationwide. What's to stop cyber terrorists from taking advantage of this?

Flint's crisis is only the beginning when it comes to our water supply. More and more examples will happen because of the federal government's lack of investment in fixing our antiquated and declining systems.

That's all pretty bad and republicans refuse to do ANYTHING about it.

Hillary has a 5 year plan to help repair the nation's infrastructure costing $275 billion. That dollar amount is unfortunately not high enough, but it seems somwhat achievable from a policy standpoint. If Hillary became president, however, the republicans in the House would still carry on with the scorched earth policy obstruction we saw under Obama. Republicans and their puppets at Fox News will predictably ridicule the plan with faux outrage and say NOTHING positive about it therefore she won't get anywhere with it.

See if republican in office were mature adults they would say about her theoretical plan "okay I don't like this or that, but I will work with you on x y and z to make this bill work."

Unfortunately republicans are complete pussies who can't compromise or be objective about anything Obama or Hillary come up with as policy ideas. That's their pathetic way of saving face when losing elections. If Hillary wins, the republicans will act like children out of reaction to losing the White House for 3 terms. Hillary will get little accomplished because of their uncompromising obstruction.

The question is: how can we fix this problem? When will people realize how serious this is?

Were any of these so called "infrastructure projects" shovel ready?