Is our system of justice equipped to deal with trump?

[berg80]

Judge orders release of former Trump lawyer Michael Cohen by Friday, says book publication ban was retaliation​

A federal judge on Thursday ordered the release from prison of President Donald Trump’s former lawyer and fixer Michael Cohen by Friday afternoon.

Judge Alvin Hellerstein found that Cohen was taken into custody July 9 and returned to prison in retaliation for balking at a condition that he not publish a book — about Trump or anyone else — while serving the remainder of his three-year criminal sentence on home confinement.

“I’ve never seen such a clause, in 21 years in being a judge and sentencing people,” Hellerstein said at a Manhattan federal court hearing held after Cohen sued this week to win his re-release from prison.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/23/michael-cohen-judge-orders-former-trump-lawyers-release-from-prison.html

Biden would have been impeached for such an egregious abuse of power by the Repub controlled House.

Michael Cohen, President Donald Trump’s former lawyer and fixer, has been sent back to prison from which he was released in May, a day after balking at a requirement that he refrain from speaking to the media or publishing a book while under home confinement.

Cohen’s lawyer Jeffrey Levine said in an interview that he is trying to speak with Bureau of Prisons officials to discuss what can be done to get him out of the federal prison in Otisville, New York.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/10/former-trump-lawyer-michael-cohen-returns-to-new-york-prison.html

With trump, hardly anyone even remembers this incident because there have been dozens and dozens of scandals since. One of them being former US Attorney Geoffrey Berman being told by trump's DoJ to go after his enemies. trump so abused his power an article was written to explain the ways we need to reform our laws to deal with trump's lawlessness.

Repairing the Rule of Law: An Agenda for Post-Trump Reform​

Repairing the Rule of Law: An Agenda for Post-Trump Reform

What should be done in a post-Trump world to restore the rule of law?

www.lawfaremedia.org

 

[Mac1958]

Judge orders release of former Trump lawyer Michael Cohen by Friday, says book publication ban was retaliation​

The Founders tried to warn us, but even they could not have anticipated this.

 

[SeaMajor7]

GASLIGHT ALERT

 

[MarathonMike]

Fire Garland, James, and Bragg. That would be a good start to repairing the justice system that the Democrats have corrupted.

 

[1srelluc]

That's X 87 even from the OP.

Come on OP, you can do better than that.

 

[berg80]

The Founders tried to warn us, but even they could not have anticipated this.

For years (at least since World War II, and perhaps earlier), the architecture of national security law has been one in which Congress expresses the normative requirements of law, while providing the executive with significant discretionary authority to deviate from those requirements in time of crisis. This structure is quite the opposite of the original Framers’ conception. That framework saw an executive far more subservient to the legislative branch and far more ministerial in nature (George Washington’s entire executive branch numbered fewer than 100 people).

The change away from the Framers’ conception has made sense in the modern world—especially in an era of significant national security threats. It was, however, premised on a fundamental assumption—that the nation could count on presidents to exercise their discretionary authority within the boundaries of expected behavior. That is to say that even though the public might disagree with individual exercises of the authority (see, for example, Truman’s unwise effort to nationalize the steel industry), the public could be confident that presidents would, generally, be acting for the benefit of the nation and out of motives that were relatively benign and well intentioned.

 

[Mac1958]

It was, however, premised on a fundamental assumption—that the nation could count on presidents to exercise their discretionary authority within the boundaries of expected behavior.

Exactly. The Founders made (and had to make) certain assumptions about the fundamental character and temperament of a President. They had to trust the American people.

So we let them down, for sure.

 

[john doe 101]

Judge orders release of former Trump lawyer Michael Cohen by Friday, says book publication ban was retaliation​

A federal judge on Thursday ordered the release from prison of President Donald Trump’s former lawyer and fixer Michael Cohen by Friday afternoon.

Judge Alvin Hellerstein found that Cohen was taken into custody July 9 and returned to prison in retaliation for balking at a condition that he not publish a book — about Trump or anyone else — while serving the remainder of his three-year criminal sentence on home confinement.

“I’ve never seen such a clause, in 21 years in being a judge and sentencing people,” Hellerstein said at a Manhattan federal court hearing held after Cohen sued this week to win his re-release from prison.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/23/michael-cohen-judge-orders-former-trump-lawyers-release-from-prison.html

Biden would have been impeached for such an egregious abuse of power by the Repub controlled House.

Michael Cohen, President Donald Trump’s former lawyer and fixer, has been sent back to prison from which he was released in May, a day after balking at a requirement that he refrain from speaking to the media or publishing a book while under home confinement.

Cohen’s lawyer Jeffrey Levine said in an interview that he is trying to speak with Bureau of Prisons officials to discuss what can be done to get him out of the federal prison in Otisville, New York.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/10/former-trump-lawyer-michael-cohen-returns-to-new-york-prison.html

With trump, hardly anyone even remembers this incident because there have been dozens and dozens of scandals since. One of them being former US Attorney Geoffrey Berman being told by trump's DoJ to go after his enemies. trump so abused his power an article was written to explain the ways we need to reform our laws to deal with trump's lawlessness.

Repairing the Rule of Law: An Agenda for Post-Trump Reform​

Repairing the Rule of Law: An Agenda for Post-Trump Reform

What should be done in a post-Trump world to restore the rule of law?

www.lawfaremedia.org

No. The founding fathers never envisioned a turd like trump.

 

[john doe 101]

Fire Garland, James, and Bragg. That would be a good start to repairing the justice system that the Democrats have corrupted.

How is it corrupted?

 

[IDIOCRACY]

Judge orders release of former Trump lawyer Michael Cohen by Friday, says book publication ban was retaliation​

A federal judge on Thursday ordered the release from prison of President Donald Trump’s former lawyer and fixer Michael Cohen by Friday afternoon.

Judge Alvin Hellerstein found that Cohen was taken into custody July 9 and returned to prison in retaliation for balking at a condition that he not publish a book — about Trump or anyone else — while serving the remainder of his three-year criminal sentence on home confinement.

“I’ve never seen such a clause, in 21 years in being a judge and sentencing people,” Hellerstein said at a Manhattan federal court hearing held after Cohen sued this week to win his re-release from prison.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/23/michael-cohen-judge-orders-former-trump-lawyers-release-from-prison.html

Biden would have been impeached for such an egregious abuse of power by the Repub controlled House.

Michael Cohen, President Donald Trump’s former lawyer and fixer, has been sent back to prison from which he was released in May, a day after balking at a requirement that he refrain from speaking to the media or publishing a book while under home confinement.

Cohen’s lawyer Jeffrey Levine said in an interview that he is trying to speak with Bureau of Prisons officials to discuss what can be done to get him out of the federal prison in Otisville, New York.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/10/former-trump-lawyer-michael-cohen-returns-to-new-york-prison.html

With trump, hardly anyone even remembers this incident because there have been dozens and dozens of scandals since. One of them being former US Attorney Geoffrey Berman being told by trump's DoJ to go after his enemies. trump so abused his power an article was written to explain the ways we need to reform our laws to deal with trump's lawlessness.

Repairing the Rule of Law: An Agenda for Post-Trump Reform​

Repairing the Rule of Law: An Agenda for Post-Trump Reform

What should be done in a post-Trump world to restore the rule of law?

www.lawfaremedia.org

Your justice system is evidence of a left gestapo

 

[berg80]

Exactly. The Founders made (and had to make) certain assumptions about the fundamental character and temperament of a President. They had to trust the American people.

So we let them down, for sure.

His behavior is beyond the comprehension of the Founders who assumed any elected prez would be a patriot. Not so with trump.

Of Trump’s many excesses, his assault on legal norms has to rank high in terms of damage to fundamental values that form the fabric of America. His attacks on the free press, the independent judiciary and the independence of the Department of Justice have all created significant damage. His abuse of executive discretionary authority has made a mockery of the concept of checks and balances. His gaming of the judicial system has revealed weaknesses in our legal process. His attempts to place himself (and his family and his business interests) above the law have called into question foundational national conceptions of equal justice. In short, President Trump has led a wrecking crew (aided and abetted by William Barr and Mitch McConnell) that has severely damaged American legal norms of behavior.

 

[berg80]

Your justice system is evidence of a left gestapo

You need to put more effort in to not being a drooling moron.

 

[berg80]

Fire Garland, James, and Bragg. That would be a good start to repairing the justice system that the Democrats have corrupted.

See post #12.

 

[Billiejeens]

That's X 87 even from the OP.

Come on OP, you can do better than that.

Doubtful

 

[Seymour Flops]

Of course the court are not equiped to deal with multiple prosecutions of a former president and current front runner in an election less than a month away.

The founders never envisioned that such lawfare would be embarked upon by a political party, and certainly never envisioned politically charged federal agencies and courts aiding and abbetting such malfeasance.

 

[john doe 101]

Your justice system is evidence of a left gestapo

So where are you from? Let's talk about your justice system.

 

[john doe 101]

Of course the court are not equiped to deal with multiple prosecutions of a former president and current front runner in an election less than a month away.

The founders never envisioned that such lawfare would be embarked upon by a political party, and certainly never envisioned politically charged federal agencies and courts aiding and abbetting such malfeasance.

If that were going on it would be stopped. But since it isn't .....

 

[berg80]

The founders never envisioned that

..........a criminal and a traitor with an adjudicated ruling of sexual assault against him would be nominated for an office for which he is clearly unfit.

Trump’s attacks on foundational norms and principles leave policymakers with two choices. Lawmakers and voters can accept that damage and admit the inevitability of American decline, or they can fight to restore and strengthen the country’s legal guardrails. This post is an effort to begin that fight—to identify practical steps that the country can take to reinvigorate the rule of law and the concept of checks and balances.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Of course not. Our system of innocent until proven guilty, prohibition of ex post facto, confronting witnesses, unbiased judges, right to an attorney etc is not equipped to deal with rigged courts, corrupt judges, trials with foregone conclusions. That's why our system is being abandoned for the one Stalin had.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Judge orders release of former Trump lawyer Michael Cohen by Friday, says book publication ban was retaliation​

A federal judge on Thursday ordered the release from prison of President Donald Trump’s former lawyer and fixer Michael Cohen by Friday afternoon.

Judge Alvin Hellerstein found that Cohen was taken into custody July 9 and returned to prison in retaliation for balking at a condition that he not publish a book — about Trump or anyone else — while serving the remainder of his three-year criminal sentence on home confinement.

“I’ve never seen such a clause, in 21 years in being a judge and sentencing people,” Hellerstein said at a Manhattan federal court hearing held after Cohen sued this week to win his re-release from prison.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/23/michael-cohen-judge-orders-former-trump-lawyers-release-from-prison.html

Biden would have been impeached for such an egregious abuse of power by the Repub controlled House.

Michael Cohen, President Donald Trump’s former lawyer and fixer, has been sent back to prison from which he was released in May, a day after balking at a requirement that he refrain from speaking to the media or publishing a book while under home confinement.

Cohen’s lawyer Jeffrey Levine said in an interview that he is trying to speak with Bureau of Prisons officials to discuss what can be done to get him out of the federal prison in Otisville, New York.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/10/former-trump-lawyer-michael-cohen-returns-to-new-york-prison.html

With trump, hardly anyone even remembers this incident because there have been dozens and dozens of scandals since. One of them being former US Attorney Geoffrey Berman being told by trump's DoJ to go after his enemies. trump so abused his power an article was written to explain the ways we need to reform our laws to deal with trump's lawlessness.

Repairing the Rule of Law: An Agenda for Post-Trump Reform​

Repairing the Rule of Law: An Agenda for Post-Trump Reform

What should be done in a post-Trump world to restore the rule of law?

www.lawfaremedia.org

Not even close. The closest this country came to a dictatorship was under fdr.