Is our system of justice equipped to deal with trump?

[Marener]

A "fraud" case in which there were no victims.

The state has a vested interest in making sure that business being conducted in their state is honest.

 

[Marener]

Was just going to correct that. Yes, but proving the value is nebulous, which is why Banks should do their own due diligence. And they do.

Again, the bank did not due anything to confirm the acuracy of the statement of financial condition.

Moreover, the values you give to properties has to be justifiable. At trial, they proved that Trump was using false information to justify their listed valuations. Believe it or not, there are standards.

 

[hadit]

The state has a vested interest in making sure that business being conducted in their state is honest.

You haven't answered a very direct question. Stop avoiding it.

 

[struth]

A "fraud" case in which there were no victims.

A fraud case where nobody says there is fraud

 

[Marener]

You haven't answered a very direct question. Stop avoiding it.

There was no question posed, but I feel like I addressed the point.

The bank was a victim of false documentation. The state is a victim because people are conducting fraudulent business is bad for the economy.

 

[struth]

Again, the bank did not due anything to confirm the acuracy of the statement of financial condition.

Moreover, the values you give to properties has to be justifiable. At trial, they proved that Trump was using false information to justify their listed valuations. Believe it or not, there are standards.

And the court of appeals just ran the AG through the ground on their case

 

[struth]

There was no question posed, but I feel like I addressed the point.

The bank was a victim of false documentation. The state is a victim because people are conducting fraudulent business is bad for the economy.

Haha what was bad for the economy???

 

[hadit]

There was no question posed, but I feel like I addressed the point.

The bank was a victim of false documentation. The state is a victim because people are conducting fraudulent business is bad for the economy.

You're ducking. I will make it as simple as I can, "Do you believe the bank's loan officers were so criminally incompetent and loaned out millions of dollars solely on the word of the applicant without any effort to ensure he had enough collateral and personal wealth to justify making the loan?" It's very straightforward, and thus far you've only come back with other questions and no answers.

 

[BothWings]

Our system of justice is rigged to prevent Trump from interrupting a 36 year stretch New World Order operatives in the Oval Office.

 

[Billiejeens]

Maybe not, they don’t have to. They gave a loan, and agreed to then terms, they got paid back, they are happy

Some "people" seem to think that there is some scientific chart that Lenders are required to use to loan money.

It is more an art than a science.

2 applicants could have the exact same portfolio and receive different offers based on the perceived ability to make the repayments.

( see African Americans)

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

You are right that commanders will not follow Republicans weaponizing every facet of government. It started with Bush and now Project 2025 is the hopey change MAGA bible.

 

[boevans]

Biden can pardon the MAGA criminals and those libs/Dems Maga lawfare would go after, leaving both sides to start over.

 

[DBA]

Biden can pardon the MAGA criminals and those libs/Dems Maga lawfare would go after, leaving both sides to start over.

He can but accepting a pardon is an admission of guilt.

 

[boevans]

Yes, which should end the lawfare.

The nice thing is that a president cannot set aside a conviction of itself. He can only pardon it, which requires the individual(s) acknowledge that they were guilty.

 

[DBA]

Yes, which should end the lawfare.

The nice thing is that a president cannot set aside a conviction of itself. He can only pardon it, which requires the individual(s) acknowledge that they were guilty.

The problem is that the accused on both sides will find a way to excuse their admission of guilt as just avoiding welfare from the opposing party. In short, it will be abused and the guilty will not be punished.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

The idea is to not extract punishment.

To avoid punishment, the individual will either go to trial, have been to trial and adjudged guilty, or accept the findings.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

The problem is that the accused on both sides will find a way to excuse their admission of guilt as just avoiding welfare from the opposing party. In short, it will be abused and the guilty will not be punished.

It cannot be abused, and a pardoned convict cannot be punished.