Looks like Americans need to learn about Trump the hard way

Nothing is changed regarding the Congress's Article 1 power over elections. If there is a congresscritter on the ballot, the Congress has authority to regulate the election, including over-riding State laws.

There are a number of amendments that deal with voting rights, and they also empower the Congress to enforce them. The 17th changed the way Senators were chosen, but nothing in it takes away the power of the Congress that is described in Article 1 Sec. 4.

The term "federal election" is a term of art- it's not Constitutionally defined. It is universally recognized to mean any election where a federal office is on the ballot.
Why wasn't your copy of the Constitution changed to reflect the change made by the amendment? It's because no one really gives a shit as all elections are run by the states. What federal agency controls state elections?
 
Why wasn't your copy of the Constitution changed to reflect the change made by the amendment? It's because no one really gives a shit as all elections are run by the states. What federal agency controls state elections?
I don't understand your question. The Congress passes laws that relate to elections, and if a State violates the laws, the DOJ enforces them by suing the State in a Federal Court. Example: The Voting Rights Act.

The Federal Gov't does not run the elections, but they sure as hell have a say in how they are run.

Amendments amend the Constitution. Nothing in the amendments rescinds the authority of the Congress that is described in the Elections clause.

"Congress can make or alter state regulations, except for the places of choosing Senators."

And Congress does exercise that power...
 
I posted proof today in fact.


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Link to teh website, please, I do not engage memes.

Trump had 64 chances to provide evidence to a court of law.

In fact, in quite a number of the court cases he did just that, here is a sampling of what the judges said ;

TRUMP V. BOOCKVAR
"Charges require specific alleations and proof. We have neither here."

TRUMP V. WISCONSIN ELECTIONS COMMISSION
"The Court has allowed [the former President] the chance to make his case and
he has lost on the merits."

KING V. WHITMER
"...nothing but speculation and conjecture that votes for President Trump were
destroyed, discarded or switched to votes for Vice President Biden."

KING V. WHITMER (sanctions against 9 attorneys including Sidney Powell)
"...a historic and profound abuse of the judicial process."

REPORT: LOST, NOT STOLEN (A report by Republican Attorneys)
"Donald Trump and his supporters have failed to present evidence of fraud or
inaccurate results significant enough to invalidate the results of the 2020
Presidential Election."

In every example, including 2000 mules,. it all has been debunked.
 
Sure, it is the stupid "rich" people that are the problem. They should all be taking advice from those that have been far less successful in life. Maybe I can drive downtown to the other side of the tracks where it is HEAVILY blue and ask them for some business and stock advice. Maybe they could assist with some engineering projects.
Monetary success doesn't equal wisdom. History is replete with examples.

Wisdom, not intelligence, is the thing.
 
Given the anemic caliber of your response, that makes perfect sense, particularly since, contrary to your wishful thinking, it actually doesn't.
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You need to stop trying to play footsie ... And pretending you're half as smart as you think you are.
I'm not going to cringe and shake just because you are clutching your pearls.

It's about time that you figure out the fact that being Exceptional ...
Has little to nothing to do with how well we meet the Status-Quo ... And we don't want to perform like everyone else.
I'm going for the Win ... And not some Participation Trophy.

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You need to stop trying to play footsie ... And pretending you're half as smart as you think you are.
I'm not going to cringe and shake just because you are clutching your pearls.

It's about time that you figure out the fact that being Exceptional ...
Has little to nothing to do with how well we meet the Status-Quo ... And we don't want to perform like everyone else.
I'm going for the Win ... And not some Participation Trophy.

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Granted, your side won the election, but unfortunately for your side, now you will have to govern, and if history is any example, such as the crash of '29, the crash of '08 occurred under Republican leadership, not to mention Repubs in power during 9 Of Last 10 Economic Recessions since 1953, you guys sure as hell haven't demonstrated any ability to govern. So, let's see what y'all can do.
 
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In a second Trump presidency, expect a scorched earth approach that could fundamentally reshape America and the world for the worse. "America First" will mean isolationism that abandons allies, fuels economic volatility, and drains American power abroad. Massive deportations won’t just disrupt millions of lives; they’ll dismantle industries, fracture communities, and create a humanitarian disaster that will tarnish the U.S. globally. Trump’s soft stance on Russia will only embolden Putin, with Trump likely abandoning Ukraine to destruction and threatening European security. A domino effect could follow -- China eyeing Taiwan, emboldened by America’s retreat, (and they are eying Okinawa islands, as well ) seizing control of the semiconductor industry and holding the U.S. at technological gunpoint.

Most nations have had to endure a demagogue to learn -- often through unbearable hardship -- the brutal consequences of unchecked power and the empty allure of populist rhetoric. Germany had Hitler, who promised national pride and left his country in ruins. Italy’s Mussolini sold visions of empire that led to disaster. Argentina saw Perón, who polarized the nation and left it grappling with his divisive legacy. Spain endured Franco’s authoritarian grip, Venezuela Chávez’s ruinous policies. And in Russia, under Stalin, democracy never stood a chance; his totalitarian control meant that the people had no opportunity to reject his tyranny at the ballot box.

Now, America too seems determined to learn the hard way about the dark force of demagoguery. Some might say, “But Trump’s first term didn’t bring the sky down.” What they overlook is that the first time, he was held in check by seasoned figures -- McMaster, Kelly, Milley, Bolton, Barr, et. al., -- the “adults in the room” who served as guardrails. This time, they’re gone. Trump will fill his ranks with sycophants, loyalists without the spine to question or halt his impulses. He’ll have nothing but yes-men willing to serve him without question and he will pepper his cabinet ranks with his oligarch buddies who will 'deconstruct the administrative state'. like termites enjoy a feast. The polluter corporations will love this, as they destroy our climate, our air, our rivers and lakes and precious soil. Expect rampant corruption and transactionalism. With his newfound belief in “absolute immunity,” he’ll feel emboldened to act without limits, trying things he never dared before. And with those private calls to Putin, he’ll have a seasoned mentor to guide him through “Dictator 101” lessons.

So yes, history repeats itself, and we seem condemned to follow it. Like Germany, Argentina, Spain, and so many others, America might face devastation and finally come to understand the full cost of demagoguery, what it's like to live under autocratic rule. I don't expect we'll become a full fledged dictatorship, but let's be clear, Trump will try and exploit any and every weakness that exists in our system that he can get away with, where the framers assumed the president would be a man who would act in good faith. Man, how wrong they were! And maybe, if we’re lucky, we’ll survive the wreckage, inoculated and wiser for it -- if we can find our way free from his grip in time. So, you think this OP is partisan tripe? Time will most certainly tell. Let's see where we stand in a few years, and watch Dems regain control of the house in the next midterms, as by then, America will see, up close and personal. what this MAGA movement is really about.

  • "As democracy is perfected, the office of the President represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day, the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be occupied by a downright fool and a complete narcissistic moron." -- H.L. Mencken
No truer words could more perfectly describe the rise of Trump.

Now, repubs are going to gloat, and pontificate why Trump won. But, he pandered to the lowest instincts of Americans, he did what all demagogues do; blame our troubles on a group. Hitler did it with Jews, and Trump has done it with immigrants, totally ignoring the fact that the undocs commit far fewer crimes than American citizens, but facts don't matter to a demagogue, the only thing that matters is power, and the more, the merrier. Also, the second big tool he bludgeoned Biden/Harris with was inflation. But for the inflation, given that it's undecideds who decide close elections, Republicans did a good job of bamboozling the masses by blaming the inflation on Biden, never mind the fact that it was CARES act, $2 trillion fiat currency infusion (that was Trump) AND the ARP, another $2 Trillion by Biden, both were done because of the pandemic, and were necessary to prevent and economic collapse, this was the prime mover for the inflation, not to mention the inflation was world wide, and you can't blame Biden for a world wide inflation, but to tell the truth is not something Republicans can do. Also, I fault Biden and Harris for not making this point clear, and they sure as hell could have, and should have.

But for the inflation, I doubt Trump would have won the popular vote, most voted on economics more than any other factor. A lot more than any other factor. It totally obfuscated Biden's major legislative achievements, predominantly the infrastructure program. For the first time since Eisenhower we are rebuilding America, as there are some 60,000 infrastructure projects as we speak. Trump, in his four years as president, with both houses under his thumb, was unable to achieve it. Biden got it done bipartisan in his first 300 days. That totally dismantles the 'he's got dementia' argument. Yeah, you don't agree but I don't give a damn, really, I've heard it all and it's all partisan drivel. If anyone has dementia, it's Trump -- have you been paying attention to his speeches? He's losing it. I doubt he is going to last four years, to be honest.

Yeah, I know, some of you are going to give mindless snarky dumb AF one liners to this OP, and you will be ignored because, frankly, if you voted for Trump, you are not very wise. You've been conned, you've been trump humped. Note that intelligence and wisdom, if they exist in the same human being, it is a coincidence, If you don't believe me, let's see where we stand during the midterms. Two years ought to reveal how Trump is going to ruin America.
geez rump, ya couldn't have warned us earlier? what good is all ^this^ waste of text going to do us now?
 
Granted, your side won the election, but unfortunately for your side, now you will have to govern, and if history is any example, such as the crash of '29, the crash of '08 occurred under Republican leadership, not to mention Repubs in power during 9 Of Last 10 Economic Recessions since 1953, you guys sure as hell haven't demonstrated any ability to govern. So, let's see what y'all can do.

Uh, you guys keep yacking about this crap.

Clinton won big in 92. In 94 the American people took the house away from him in a huge way.

Obama won big in 08. Chris Matthews was having on-air orgasms and stating that the GOP would not even have any hope of getting the house back in 10 years. 2 years later, the American people told Obama to go screw himself by taking the house away from him in a huge wave.

So, keep blustering you manufactured bullhockey.

It's not working.
 
Monetary success doesn't equal wisdom. History is replete with examples.

Wisdom, not intelligence, is the thing.

You seem long on speech about wisdom.

But you seem to suffer from not having any.
 
In a second Trump presidency, expect a scorched earth approach that could fundamentally reshape America and the world for the worse. "America First" will mean isolationism that abandons allies, fuels economic volatility, and drains American power abroad. Massive deportations won’t just disrupt millions of lives; they’ll dismantle industries, fracture communities, and create a humanitarian disaster that will tarnish the U.S. globally. Trump’s soft stance on Russia will only embolden Putin, with Trump likely abandoning Ukraine to destruction and threatening European security. A domino effect could follow -- China eyeing Taiwan, emboldened by America’s retreat, (and they are eying Okinawa islands, as well ) seizing control of the semiconductor industry and holding the U.S. at technological gunpoint.

Most nations have had to endure a demagogue to learn -- often through unbearable hardship -- the brutal consequences of unchecked power and the empty allure of populist rhetoric. Germany had Hitler, who promised national pride and left his country in ruins. Italy’s Mussolini sold visions of empire that led to disaster. Argentina saw Perón, who polarized the nation and left it grappling with his divisive legacy. Spain endured Franco’s authoritarian grip, Venezuela Chávez’s ruinous policies. And in Russia, under Stalin, democracy never stood a chance; his totalitarian control meant that the people had no opportunity to reject his tyranny at the ballot box.

Now, America too seems determined to learn the hard way about the dark force of demagoguery. Some might say, “But Trump’s first term didn’t bring the sky down.” What they overlook is that the first time, he was held in check by seasoned figures -- McMaster, Kelly, Milley, Bolton, Barr, et. al., -- the “adults in the room” who served as guardrails. This time, they’re gone. Trump will fill his ranks with sycophants, loyalists without the spine to question or halt his impulses. He’ll have nothing but yes-men willing to serve him without question and he will pepper his cabinet ranks with his oligarch buddies who will 'deconstruct the administrative state'. like termites enjoy a feast. The polluter corporations will love this, as they destroy our climate, our air, our rivers and lakes and precious soil. Expect rampant corruption and transactionalism. With his newfound belief in “absolute immunity,” he’ll feel emboldened to act without limits, trying things he never dared before. And with those private calls to Putin, he’ll have a seasoned mentor to guide him through “Dictator 101” lessons.

So yes, history repeats itself, and we seem condemned to follow it. Like Germany, Argentina, Spain, and so many others, America might face devastation and finally come to understand the full cost of demagoguery, what it's like to live under autocratic rule. I don't expect we'll become a full fledged dictatorship, but let's be clear, Trump will try and exploit any and every weakness that exists in our system that he can get away with, where the framers assumed the president would be a man who would act in good faith. Man, how wrong they were! And maybe, if we’re lucky, we’ll survive the wreckage, inoculated and wiser for it -- if we can find our way free from his grip in time. So, you think this OP is partisan tripe? Time will most certainly tell. Let's see where we stand in a few years, and watch Dems regain control of the house in the next midterms, as by then, America will see, up close and personal. what this MAGA movement is really about.

  • "As democracy is perfected, the office of the President represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day, the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be occupied by a downright fool and a complete narcissistic moron." -- H.L. Mencken
No truer words could more perfectly describe the rise of Trump.

Now, repubs are going to gloat, and pontificate why Trump won. But, he pandered to the lowest instincts of Americans, he did what all demagogues do; blame our troubles on a group. Hitler did it with Jews, and Trump has done it with immigrants, totally ignoring the fact that the undocs commit far fewer crimes than American citizens, but facts don't matter to a demagogue, the only thing that matters is power, and the more, the merrier. Also, the second big tool he bludgeoned Biden/Harris with was inflation. But for the inflation, given that it's undecideds who decide close elections, Republicans did a good job of bamboozling the masses by blaming the inflation on Biden, never mind the fact that it was CARES act, $2 trillion fiat currency infusion (that was Trump) AND the ARP, another $2 Trillion by Biden, both were done because of the pandemic, and were necessary to prevent and economic collapse, this was the prime mover for the inflation, not to mention the inflation was world wide, and you can't blame Biden for a world wide inflation, but to tell the truth is not something Republicans can do. Also, I fault Biden and Harris for not making this point clear, and they sure as hell could have, and should have.

But for the inflation, I doubt Trump would have won the popular vote, most voted on economics more than any other factor. A lot more than any other factor. It totally obfuscated Biden's major legislative achievements, predominantly the infrastructure program. For the first time since Eisenhower we are rebuilding America, as there are some 60,000 infrastructure projects as we speak. Trump, in his four years as president, with both houses under his thumb, was unable to achieve it. Biden got it done bipartisan in his first 300 days. That totally dismantles the 'he's got dementia' argument. Yeah, you don't agree but I don't give a damn, really, I've heard it all and it's all partisan drivel. If anyone has dementia, it's Trump -- have you been paying attention to his speeches? He's losing it. I doubt he is going to last four years, to be honest.

Yeah, I know, some of you are going to give mindless snarky dumb AF one liners to this OP, and you will be ignored because, frankly, if you voted for Trump, you are not very wise. You've been conned, you've been trump humped. Note that intelligence and wisdom, if they exist in the same human being, it is a coincidence, If you don't believe me, let's see where we stand during the midterms. Two years ought to reveal how Trump is going to ruin America.
/——/ Stop teasing us. We can’t wait.
 
Two years ought to reveal how Trump is going to ruin America.
Unfortunately, his base is so full of rage that they think they want much of the destruction that could happen here. They're essentially feral. We're never going to understand it. Maybe one day, if they get past it, they'll be able to explain it to us. Right now all we get is emotion and rote talking points.

The only thing that concerns me is the possibility that state and local governments, when they have the political force, will refuse to accept or certify undesirable election results. To me, this has always been the threat to our democracy, and I sure as hell wouldn't be surprised to see it happen. These people are at war.

Outside of that, unless that actually happens, the people will decide.
 
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Unfortunately, his base is so full of rage that they think they want much of the destruction that could happen here. They're essentially feral. We're never going to understand it. Maybe one day, if they get past it, they'll be able to explain it to us. Right now all we get is emotion and rote talking points.

The only thing that concerns me is the possibility that state and local governments, when they have the political force, will refuse to accept or certify undesirable election results. To me, this has always been the threat to our democracy, and I sure as hell wouldn't be surprised to see it happen. These people are at war.

Outside of that, unless that actually happens, the people will decide.

If they try to decertify, lawsuits will fly (Mark Elias, Democracy Docket) intentional delay of certification without cause is not legal, and they will make shit up, but it will be exposed in lawsuits. I'm not worried about it, but they could cause a lot of problems in the process.
 
If they try to decertify, lawsuits will fly (Mark Elias, Democracy Docket) intentional delay of certification without cause is not legal, and they will make shit up, but it will be exposed in lawsuits. I'm not worried about it, but they could cause a lot of problems in the process.
I think that's the goal. Chaos, destruction, and then build it back up in their authoritarian, pseudo-theocratic image.
 
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