9/11 Firefighters Trash Official 9/11 Story, Say Obvious Demolition, Documentary "Calling Out Bravo 7"

[LA RAM FAN]

/----/ I posted nothing, or you are just too devoted to your conspiricy to accept any other reasoning? I poste dthis earlier.
Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering College of Engineering and Institute of Northern Engineering University of Alaska Fairbanks, AK

Fire Did Not Cause the Collapse of WTC 7 The principal conclusion of our study is that fire did not cause the collapse of WTC 7 on 9/11, contrary to the conclusions of NIST and private engineering firms that studied the collapse. This conclusion is based upon a number of findings from our different analyses. Together, they show that fires could not have caused weakening or displacement of structural members capable of initiating any of the hypothetical local failures alleged to have triggered thetotal collapse of the building, nor could any local failures, even if they had occurred, have triggered a sequence of failures that would have resulted in the observed total collapse. Near-Simultaneous Failure of Every Column Explains the Collapse The secondary conclusion of our study is that the collapse of WTC 7 was a global failure involving the near-simultaneous failure of every column in the building. This conclusion is based primarily upon the finding that the simultaneous failure of all core columns over 8 stories followed 1.3 seconds later by the simultaneous failure of all exterior columns over 8 stories produces almost exactly the behavior observed in videos of the collapse, whereas no other sequence of failures that we simulated produced the observed behavior. We cannot completely rule out the possibility that an alternative scenario may have caused the observed collapse; however, the near-simultaneous failure of every column is the only scenario we identified that was capable of producing the observed behavior.
https://files.wtc7report.org/file/p...ollapse-of-World-Trade-Center-7-March2020.pdf

you sound like a broken record,you just keep posting the same old tiresome lies of NIST that have been debunked by witness testimonys.

as always stupid **** you prove you are indeed just thatm.what part of the sentence do you not understand that NIST has a LOOONNGGGG history of LYING so therefore your debunked lies in those links have no credibility?

AGAIN you act like a retard expecting someone to believe YOU,NIST,THE MSM MEDIA,the SAME media that lied about election fraud but you now think is all of a sudden telling the truth on 9/11 over witnesses that were there that day MANY being firefighters experienced in explosives.

118 Witnesses to Explosions in theFDNY Oral Histories of 9/11

I thought it was explodingactually.... Everybody I thinkat that point still thoughtthese things were blown up.”— John Coyle, FDNY

https://www.ae911truth.org/images/PDFs/090116-118Witnesses.pdf

AGAIN only a retard would believe NIST ESPECIALLY with their long history of LYING to Americans for DECADESand the MSM media the SAME media that lied about election fraud but you NOW say is telling the truth on 9/11

they would only believe those stupid lying clowns over witnesses that were there that day MANY being firefighters experienced in explosives, WHAT PART OF THAT SENTENCE DO YOU NOT COMPREHEND,IS ENGLISH YOUR SECOND LANGUAGE OR SOMETHING?

WHY are you afraid to listen to these videos of witnesses that heard explosives going off "many being firefighters experienced in the sound of explosives" who called the 9/11 commission investigation and the NIST report a half baked farce asshole?

barry jennings in video # 4 and # 5 in this link as well?

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Sep 27, 2025

/----/ Childish name-calling is not a convincing argument. I believe the engineers' report differs from the NIST report.

Department of Civil and Environmental EngineeringCollege of Engineering and MinesInstitute of Northern EngineeringUniversity of Alaska FairbanksFairbanks, AK 99775Prepared f

Fire Did Not Cause the Collapse of WTC 7 The principal conclusion of our study is that fire did not cause the collapse of WTC 7 on 9/11, contrary to the conclusions of NIST and private engineering firms that studied the collapse. This conclusion is based upon a number of findings from our...

• LA RAM FAN

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your a disgraceful human being to those 9/11 familys,many who also say explosives brought the towers down.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

your right,jet fuel fires CANT melt steel thanks for admitting your wrong.

I see you posted a lauhing smiley in defeat in SECONDS after my post was made PROVING in spades you NEVER read anything that tears down your lies.

FACT-NIST has a loonggggggg history of LYING to Americans yet you take their word for it,what kind of fucked up logic is that?

FACT-You believe the MEDIA about 9/11 the SAME media that lied to you on election fraud but NOW you say is all of a sudden telling the truth on 9/11.

FACT-you believe NIST despite their LONG history of lying to Americans for DECADES and the MSM media over witnesses testimonys many being experienced firefighters experienced in the sound of explosives who calld the NIST report a half baked farce.

you believe all those people that have no credibility over EXPERT WITNESSES who had NOTHING to gain by lying and risked going to jail by doing so.

thanks for proving what a stupid **** you are to the entire board.


can you even comprehend how fucked up you logic is yet?

 

[Cellblock2429]

your right,jet fuel fires CANT melt steel thanks for admitting your wrong.

/—-/ That’s not what Rosie said. The heat was enough to soften the metal causing it to lose its load bearing capability.
You see that is how you respond without juvenile insults. Try it sometime.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

/—-/ Thays not what Rosie said. The heat was enough to soften the metal causing it to lose its load bearing capability.
You see that is how you respond without juvenile insults. Try it sometime.

rosie? is she an engineering expert or a firefighter there that day with years of experience in explosives? i thought not.

you respond with juvenile LIES of NIST instead of acknowedling their lies have been debunked by firefighters who were there that day not listening to what they say or reading their witnesses testimonys only seeing what you WANT to see. YOU should try that sometime. not seeing only what you WANT to see or hear,talk about being juvenile

 

[LA RAM FAN]

I see you posted a lauhing smiley in defeat in SECONDS after my post was made PROVING in spades you NEVER read anything that tears down your lies.

FACT-NIST has a loonggggggg history of LYING to Americans yet you take their word for it,what kind of fucked up logic is that?

FACT-You believe the MEDIA about 9/11 the SAME media that lied to you on election fraud but NOW you say is all of a sudden telling the truth on 9/11.

FACT-you believe NIST despite their LONG history of lying to Americans for DECADES and the MSM media over witnesses testimonys many being experienced firefighters experienced in the sound of explosives who calld the NIST report a half baked farce.

you believe all those people that have no credibility over EXPERT WITNESSES who had NOTHING to gain by lying and risked going to jail by doing so.

thanks for proving what a stupid **** you are to the entire board.


can you even comprehend how fucked up you logic is yet?

see? another juvenile laughing smiley instead of admitting NIST LIED that EXPERT WITNESSES that day DEBUNKED their LIES so dont go whining about my name calling when you keep doing THIS juvenile behaviour.

AGAIN these EXPERT firefighter witnesses experienced in the sound of explosives have 100 TIMES more credibility than NIST.,they called the NIST report a half baked farce,these firefighter EXPERTS in EXPOSIVES did, what part of that sentence do you fail to comprehend?

I thought it was exploding actually.... Everybody I think at that point still thoughT these things were blown up.”— John Coyle, FDNY
118 Witnesses to Explosions in theFDNY Oral Histories of 9/11
On August 12, 2005, more than 12,000 pages of oralhistories from 503 FDNY firefighters, paramedics,and emergency medical technicians were madepublic after The New York Times sued the City of NewYork for their release in response to the Bloombergadministration’s decision to withhold the records fromthe public.The FDNY had recorded the oral histories betweenOctober 2001 and January 2002 at the instruction ofthe City’s fire commissioner, Thomas Von Essen, whowanted to preserve the accounts of the FDNY’s members “before they became reshaped by a collectivememory.”Following the release of the records, researchers began examining them for any evidence as to the causeof the Twin Towers’ destruction.In August 2006, Dr. Graeme MacQueen, a retired professor from McMaster University in Ontario, Canada,published the article, “118 Witnesses: The Firefighters’ Testimony to Explosions in the Twin Towers.” Init, he identified 118 FDNY members (out of the 503interviewed) who reported witnessing explosions thatevidently—based on corroborating evidence—were theactual cause of the Twin Towers’ destruction.MacQueen’s article and the criteria he used in analyzing the eyewitness accounts can be found in theJournal of 9/11 Studies, Vol. 2, August 2006.Excerpts from the 118 oral histories are presentedbelow in alphab

(4) Brady, Gregg (9110184)
North Tower:
“We were standing underneath and Captain Stone was
speaking again. We heard — I heard 3 loud explosions.
I look up and the north tower is coming down now, 1
World Trade Center....At that time, when I heard the 3
loud explosions, I started running west on Vesey Street
towards the water.” [p. 7]
(5) Burke, Timothy (9110488)

https://www.ae911truth.org/images/PDFs/090116-118Witnesses.pdf

you think the MSM LYING media DID lie to you on election fraud but all of a sudden decided to tell the truth on 9/11 that day? do you even grasp this kind of fucked up logic you have?

 

[PeterPilot]

/—-/ That’s not what Rosie said. The heat was enough to soften the metal causing it to lose its load bearing capability.
You see that is how you respond without juvenile insults. Try it sometime.

You offer only sophistry.

IF the metal was softened as you say, it would have to have been universally softened and uniformly softened because the building collapsed at free fall.

 

[Cellblock2429]

You offer only sophistry.

IF the metal was softened as you say, it would have to have been universally softened and uniformly softened because the building collapsed at free fall.

/----/ The fire and heat did not affect the entire building as much as it did where the planes hit and the fuel spilled and ignited. Once the top floors collapsed, the lower florrs were crushed by the weight.

 

[Soupnazi630]

You offer only sophistry.

IF the metal was softened as you say, it would have to have been universally softened and uniformly softened because the building collapsed at free fall.

None of the buildings collapsed at free fall speed.

So no it did not have to be universal or uniform

 

[PeterPilot]

Cellblock2429

I would not be surprised if you were teaching physics at some DEI school.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Cellblock2429

I would not be surprised if you were teaching physics at some DEI school.

/----/ If I were a DEI teacher, I'd be going along with your cockamamie conspiracy theory. But since I'm science based, I'd use actual independent engineer's reports. Like this one:

Engineers Assess the Truth in AE911TruthSeptember 2021David M Scott Hon AIA, FIStructE, FREng, FRSERon Hamburger, PE, SE, MIStuctE.
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Tall buildings are never demolished with explosives at every level. In controlled demolitions, explosives are used to create a zone of weakness, and then the weight of the building above this weak zone is used to initiate and promulgate the collapse, much as the aircraft impact damage created a zone of weakness in the towers. Other differences include explosions rather than implosions and, of course the lack of flashes. But probably the most compelling evidence is that the perimeter columns failed at the bolted joints. And because the bolted joints were staggered (Ref 2-4:20), it means that there was no line of explosions at any level. The columns themselves were forthe most part not badly damaged. The connections failed. There was no evidence of cutter chargesor explosions. Tall buildings are never demolished with explosives at every level; why would they do it here?"
See page 5

https://www.aisc.org/globalassets/why-steel/engineers-assess-the-truth-in-ae911truth-september-2021.pdf

 

[PeterPilot]

Cellblock2429

You're kidding yourself dude. You're not science based, your worldview is the result of propaganda. You are an example of what Eric Hoffer observed many years ago: "Propaganda does not deceive people, it merely helps them deceive themselves."

Anybody who 24 years later still believes the NIST explanation is thoroughly brainwashed.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Cellblock2429

You're kidding yourself dude. You're not science based, your worldview is the result of propaganda. You are an example of what Eric Hoffer observed many years ago: "Propaganda does not deceive people, it merely helps them deceive themselves."

Anybody who 24 years later still believes the NIST explanation is thoroughly brainwashed.

Wrong

you are projecting. You have posted nothing that is science based and everything you post is contradicted by science.

Starting with your BULLSHIT claim that the buildings came down at free fall speed. NONE of them did.

It is you spreading fiction based propaganda

 

[Cellblock2429]

Cellblock2429

You're kidding yourself dude. You're not science based, your worldview is the result of propaganda. You are an example of what Eric Hoffer observed many years ago: "Propaganda does not deceive people, it merely helps them deceive themselves."

Anybody who 24 years later still believes the NIST explanation is thoroughly brainwashed.

/—-/ I didn’t cite NIST. Go back and see for yourself.

 

[PeterPilot]

/—-/ I didn’t cite NIST. Go back and see for yourself.

You're too damn misinformed to understand that while you may not have "cited" NIST, you regurgitate their bankrupt report.

 

[Cellblock2429]

You're too damn misinformed to understand that while you may not have "cited" NIST, you regurgitate their bankrupt report.

/----/ This is not NIST.
See page 5
https://www.aisc.org/globalassets/w...ss-the-truth-in-ae911truth-september-2021.pdf