Firefighters Professional Trade Journal Concludes 9/11 Was "Explosive Demolition"

[MisterBeale]

Can you prove they did?

I've noticed that the folks on one side of the issue have posted all the links, but the claims of the shills and spooks have none.

It is like they are leftists, demanding a standard of proof they themselves feel no need to adhere to.

Intelligent folks that read this thread will know the truth.

 

[MisterBeale]

Apply it to yourself.

I have sourced my claims, hadit has not posted one link for his crazy ideas.


. . . nor have you or Todd when it comes right down to it.

 

[hadit]

Can you prove they did?

If they didn't, where did they go? I recall no one saying that their husband, for example, was listed as on that plane but is here at home with me, unharmed.

 

[hadit]

I have sourced my claims, hadit has not posted one link for his crazy ideas.


. . . nor have you or Todd when it comes right down to it.

You haven't even attempted to address the very real, very practical objections I placed in front of you.

 

[PeterPilot]

If they didn't, where did they go? I recall no one saying that their husband, for example, was listed as on that plane but is here at home with me, unharmed.

It doesn't matter where they went silly boy. The point is the story you believe is a fairy tale. You nor anybody else can prove a single element of the Official Conspiracy Theory.

 

[MisterBeale]

You haven't even attempted to address the very real, very practical objections I placed in front of you.

That is because yoar views are ultimately, very naive.

You either have no idea how the deep state works, or you are part of it. I can't think of any other reason you are posting such silly drivel.

If you get educated on this topic, we will talk. Otherwise, I'll just point and laugh.

Plausible deniability - Wikispooks

wikispooks.com

 

[hadit]

It doesn't matter where they went silly boy. The point is the story you believe is a fairy tale. You nor anybody else can prove a single element of the Official Conspiracy Theory.

Actually, it does matter, a lot. Like I said, all we'd need is for ONE person that was listed as being on one of those flights to step forward and show that they are alive and unharmed, then testify that they were bought off by a guy wearing sunglasses and a black suit. That would demolish the whole, "They were taken off the planes and kept in a barn on Funk and Wagnell's farm" nonsense. Also, there's no way hundreds of people would have kept the secret this long without something leaking.

You tell me, if there were no passengers and crew on those flights, where are the people who were supposed to be on them? Where is Barbara Olson?

 

[PeterPilot]

Actually, it does matter, a lot. Like I said, all we'd need is for ONE person that was listed as being on one of those flights to step forward and show that they are alive and unharmed, then testify that they were bought off by a guy wearing sunglasses and a black suit. That would demolish the whole, "They were taken off the planes and kept in a barn on Funk and Wagnell's farm" nonsense. Also, there's no way hundreds of people would have kept the secret this long without something leaking.

You tell me, if there were no passengers and crew on those flights, where are the people who were supposed to be on them?

Are you familiar with what happened at one of the Cleveland Airports that day? Did you know NASA has a facility there and a strange plane landed and deplaned a bunch of passengers. Are you familiar with what happened aboard Delta 1989 that day?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Can you prove they did?

Did anybody on the real flights land safely?

 

[PeterPilot]

Did anybody on the real flights land safely?

Have you stopped beating your wife?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Have you stopped beating your wife?

Were the passenger bodies inside the Pentagon from the plane, or were they planted later?
Or planted before?

 

[PeterPilot]

Were the passenger bodies inside the Pentagon from the plane, or were they planted later?
Or planted before?

The greatest number of casualties at the Pentagon were amongst those congressional auditors trying to find the missing $2.3 Trillion that Donald Rumsfeld was deposed about the day before. Ending that investigation was the mission, and it was accomplished.

April Gallop, enlisted US Army who worked there, walked out through the area where the mythical AA77 supposedly crashed. She reported no airplane parts, no passenger seats, no passengers, no baggage, and the smell of cordite, no jetfuel was found there.

 

[hadit]

That is because yoar views are ultimately, very naive.

Are you trying to insist that buildings the size of WTC1, 2 and 7 could be successfully wired for demolition quickly and quietly with no one noticing anything?

You either have no idea how the deep state works, or you are part of it. I can't think of any other reason you are posting such silly drivel.

And there it is, the inevitable, "You're a part of it" when all else fails.

If you get educated on this topic, we will talk. Otherwise, I'll just point and laugh.

Plausible deniability - Wikispooks

wikispooks.com

Here's how this whole thing works. I ask inconvenient questions that you can't deal with. You in turn ignore the inconvenient questions and attempt to make it about me, hoping to cloud the issue and deflect from your refusal to deal with even the slightest problems in your theories.

You say the buildings were wired with explosives yet can't/won't say when and how they were so wired without anyone noticing. Some of the most heavily used buildings in the world, and no one saw or heard anything? That kind of wiring can't be done in a single weekend, and no one is going to leave explosives sitting around for months for a curious person to find and talk about. No one, and I mean no one, talked at all about finding, seeing, or hearing anything, yet you continue to insist they were there without any support.

You say the airplanes that hit the buildings had no passengers or crew on board yet can't/won't say where the people listed on the manifests are currently. It would only take one to step forward and show themselves alive and unharmed. Heck, it would only take one relative to step forward and say, "Hey, you claim my uncle died in the plane, but he was at Thanksgiving dinner". Where is Barbara Olson?

Conspiracy theories work in predictable ways. Someone comes out with a wild idea of what they think might have happened when the simplest and most believable story is presented. They do this because it's more fun to imagine great, massive conspiracies with everyone out to hide something from them, yet they, because they have an internet search engine, find out the truth then it is to believe that somebody hit us where we were vulnerable and in a way for which we had no preparation. When they are presented with how wild and impractical their ideas are, they just make the conspiracy bigger and come up with more outlandish ideas. I mean, neutron bombs? Seriously? Ultimately, they just stop trying to support their ideas and insist anyone who disagrees with them is either involved in the now enormous conspiracy or is shilling for it.

 

[PeterPilot]

Are you trying to insist that buildings the size of WTC1, 2 and 7 could be successfully wired for demolition quickly and quietly with no one noticing anything?

And there it is, the inevitable, "You're a part of it" when all else fails.

Here's how this whole thing works. I ask inconvenient questions that you can't deal with. You in turn ignore the inconvenient questions and attempt to make it about me, hoping to cloud the issue and deflect from your refusal to deal with even the slightest problems in your theories.

You say the buildings were wired with explosives yet can't/won't say when and how they were so wired without anyone noticing. Some of the most heavily used buildings in the world, and no one saw or heard anything? That kind of wiring can't be done in a single weekend, and no one is going to leave explosives sitting around for months for a curious person to find and talk about. No one, and I mean no one, talked at all about finding, seeing, or hearing anything, yet you continue to insist they were there without any support.

You say the airplanes that hit the buildings had no passengers or crew on board yet can't/won't say where the people listed on the manifests are currently. It would only take one to step forward and show themselves alive and unharmed. Heck, it would only take one relative to step forward and say, "Hey, you claim my uncle died in the plane, but he was at Thanksgiving dinner". Where is Barbara Olson?

Conspiracy theories work in predictable ways. Someone comes out with a wild idea of what they think might have happened when the simplest and most believable story is presented. They do this because it's more fun to imagine great, massive conspiracies with everyone out to hide something from them, yet they, because they have an internet search engine, find out the truth then it is to believe that somebody hit us where we were vulnerable and in a way for which we had no preparation. When they are presented with how wild and impractical their ideas are, they just make the conspiracy bigger and come up with more outlandish ideas. I mean, neutron bombs? Seriously? Ultimately, they just stop trying to support their ideas and insist anyone who disagrees with them is either involved in the now enormous conspiracy or is shilling for it.

You ask questions like George Bush asks questions. Which is to say George asks stupid questions and so do you. Maybe you're more like Biden asking questions. Either way, it's not to be taken seriously.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The greatest number of casualties at the Pentagon were amongst those congressional auditors trying to find the missing $2.3 Trillion that Donald Rumsfeld was deposed about the day before. Ending that investigation was the mission, and it was accomplished.

April Gallop, enlisted US Army who worked there, walked out through the area where the mythical AA77 supposedly crashed. She reported no airplane parts, no passenger seats, no passengers, no baggage, and the smell of cordite, no jetfuel was found there.

When were the passenger bodies moved in?

 

[PeterPilot]

When were the passenger bodies moved in?

Why don't you prove they were there?

 

[hadit]

Are you familiar with what happened at one of the Cleveland Airports that day? Did you know NASA has a facility there and a strange plane landed and deplaned a bunch of passengers. Are you familiar with what happened aboard Delta 1989 that day?

Oh, a "strange plane". That explains everything </sarcasm>. Now, you intimate that the "strange plane" and the "NASA facility" are related, and I guess we're supposed to believe that the passengers were taken off the plane and herded into the "facility" for ultimate execution. Now, for inconvenient questions. Why do you think these passengers were all taken off the plane in full view of bystanders? They would have had to have been in order for your favorite conspiracist to have observed them. When these passengers "deplaned", were any of them acting in any way like they were being herded by men in black wearing sunglasses? Were any of them asking questions, maybe wondering why they weren't where they expected the plane to land? Was anyone frantically trying to contact loved ones, maybe making a break for it? If they were going to be killed anyway, why not just let them die in the crash? Much neater and simpler than risking exposure this way.

Why, if this was all so mysterious, are there no photos or videos taken of this "strange plane", if it was so strange that your favorite conspiracist made note of it?

See, this is where wild theories usually fall apart, when they get looked at below their shiny surfaces.

 

[hadit]

You ask questions like George Bush asks questions. Which is to say George asks stupid questions and so do you. Maybe you're more like Biden asking questions. Either way, it's not to be taken seriously.

One notes that, despite all the bloviating and hand waving, not a single attempt has been made to even address the questions. You tell us how buildings the size of these can be successfully wired for demolition without anyone seeing or hearing anything.

Look, I know it's an article of faith at this point but refusing to even look at inconvenient things like this isn't helping your cause.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

I've noticed that the folks on one side of the issue have posted all the links, but the claims of the shills and spooks have none.

It is like they are leftists, demanding a standard of proof they themselves feel no need to adhere to.

Intelligent folks that read this thread will know the truth.

You are gaslighting. Most MAGAs just don't believe in facts or posting evidence.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

I have sourced my claims, hadit has not posted one link for his crazy ideas.


. . . nor have you or Todd when it comes right down to it.

I do when necessary. You do at times, I do admit. I wish your team followed your example.