7 States Sue Biden Over Loan Forgiveness Plan

[multivita-man]

Unlike college kids I lived up to my end of the bargain and the government lived up to theirs. Apples and oranges. If you have a total loss in a house fire, you'll never pay the insurance compny back. If you have a major accident in your car you will never pay the insurance back. If you don't like the system government setup, tell your leaders to get rid of it. College loans were setup where you borrow the money, and pay it back in the time frame they gave you.

So your argument is that you're better than these borrowers because you played by the rules, which is fine - you can make that argument.

But just recognize that "people should fulfill the terms of an agreement - any agreement" is your own idiosyncratic philosophical premise. There are other premises that are valid...like the fact that, presumably, the vast majority of these borrowers have made good faith efforts to meet the terms of their agreement, and in fact, many have probably done so. But they'd be in less financial distress if they had this debt burden removed. There's nothing inherently wrong with that.

 

[Nostra]

And here you are...a burden on the taxpayers

Hypocrisy thy name is Republican..specifically Ray from Cleveland.

So is anyone on SS a burden to the taxpayers?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

So your argument is that you're better than these borrowers because you played by the rules, which is fine - you can make that argument.

But just recognize that "people should fulfill the terms of an agreement - any agreement" is your own idiosyncratic philosophical premise. There are other premises that are valid...like the fact that, presumably, the vast majority of these borrowers have made good faith efforts to meet the terms of their agreement, and in fact, many have probably done so. But they'd be in less financial distress if they had this debt burden removed. There's nothing inherently wrong with that.

There is a lot wrong with that because it's vote buying pure and simple. If it was meant for distressed people the limit would be people making 35K a year instead of $125,000 a year. People making 125K do not need government bailouts. So why would Dementia allow a person making 120K a year this money? Because it buys their votes.

 

[Lesh]

So is anyone on SS a burden to the taxpayers?

You could make that claim...although unlike Medicare, SS pays for itself

 

[Lesh]

There is a lot wrong with that because it's vote buying pure and simple. If it was meant for distressed people the limit would be people making 35K a year instead of $125,000 a year. People making 125K do not need government bailouts. So why would Dementia allow a person making 120K a year this money? Because it buys their votes.

Awww the taxpayer burden is still whining about others being a taxpayer burden?

 

[multivita-man]

There is a lot wrong with that because it's vote buying pure and simple. If it was meant for distressed people the limit would be people making 35K a year instead of $125,000 a year. People making 125K do not need government bailouts. So why would Dementia allow a person making 120K a year this money? Because it buys their votes.

You know, Ray...I don't entirely disagree. It was definitely political and not entirely economic. I think he gave into the Bernie Bros and Liz Warren.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Actually, no, it's not. Medicare is different from private insurance because the population that's covered is the oldest and most likely to use the system, yet when they're using the system they're not paying into it -- it's their kids and grandkids who are...and a lot of immigrants.

In most employer health insurance pools, the people who are using the system are often paying into the system. And given their age, they're less likely to use it than their Medicare counterparts.

So once again, you don't seem to understand why your opinions on the matter are not really based on facts, just feelings or the perception that some snowflakes are gaming the system.

Well here's a fact, when you have employer sponsored health insurance you are going to likely use it while it's provided to you at some time during your employment. With Medicare, you don't get one dime until you reach the age of now 67, or if you've been on disability for at least two years. And if you pass away before the age you can use it, all that money you and your employers paid is gone forever.

 

[Nostra]

You could make that claim...although unlike Medicare, SS pays for itself

Your hypocrisy is noted.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

You know, Ray...I don't entirely disagree. It was definitely political and not entirely economic. I think he gave into the Bernie Bros and Liz Warren.

Now there we can agree. Dementia is nothing but a puppet. Therefore it's the party that's pushing for this debt forgiveness more so than Biden. It doesn't make it anymore right though. There is no reason a person making 40K a year should be paying for debt forgiveness of somebody making 100K a year.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Awww the taxpayer burden is still whining about others being a taxpayer burden?

You commies are such liars you even lie to yourself. That's not the sad part. The sad part is you actually believe your own lies.

 

[Lesh]

You commies are such liars you even lie to yourself. That's not the sad part. The sad part is you actually believe your own lies.

You didn't admit to being a burden to taxpayers (for your medical care) while whining that forgiving student debt is a burden on thre taxpayers?

Yea ya did

 

[Lesh]

There is no reason a person making 40K a year should be paying for debt forgiveness of somebody making 100K a year.

Yea...they're not. How stupid are you?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Rationalize it any way you want hypocrite but the bottom line is that taxpayers are paying your medical bills while you claim that someone else is a burden on the taxpayer

You must have a head made out of cement. How are others paying for me when I paid into it all of my life? It's one thing if Medicare was an option, but it wasn't. You're drafted into the system if you work for a living and you are promised the payout of what you worked for. Simple as that. Now show me in the loan papers where the student was guaranteed a bailout.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Yea...they're not. How stupid are you?

If they're not somebody else is. How stupid are you? Do you think money grows on trees? Oh, that's a stupid question. Of course you do. You're a Democrat.

 

[Lesh]

If they're not somebody else is.

Way to try to weasel out of a stupid comment retard

Newsflash...EVERYONE pays for your medical care through payroll deductions

 

[Jarlaxle]

That’s all the GOP. Does

Don’t expect solutions from them.

They don’t do solution’s

Pay your bills, deadbeat.

 

[Lesh]

Pay your bills, deadbeat.

You talking to trump?

 

[BWK]

Nonsense.

How else do you explain it? Some people pay for those loans when they are in their fifties. How is it nonsense?

 

[BWK]

Pay your bills, deadbeat.

Pay until they are in their fifties? Are you high on drugs?

 

[Jarlaxle]

Pay until they are in their fifties? Are you high on drugs?

If you cannot pay it back, do not take out the loan.

Maybe it really is time to bring back debtor's prison.