50-50 Obama does not run in 2012

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I was not old enough to know how big a surprise LBJ was
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Victory in Iraq, troops 100% gone
failed stimulus
5-6 million fewer jobs than in 2008
Gitmo 7-24s
Obama-care gone? (if so that to me makes it 75-25)
Huge deficit with no return
loosing congress probably 100%
approval rating <40%

I was not old enough to know how big a surprise LBJ was
Libs this is your reality
I see that the reality that is the weak field of GOP candidates has finally set in for you. HOPING Obama will not run, will not make it so.
 

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Victory in Iraq, troops 100% gone
failed stimulus
5-6 million fewer jobs than in 2008
Gitmo 7-24s
Obama-care gone? (if so that to me makes it 75-25)
Huge deficit with no return
loosing congress probably 100%
approval rating <40%

I was not old enough to know how big a surprise LBJ was
Libs this is your reality
I don't see how he doesn't. There is no one in the Democratic Party to pick up the banner if he drops it right now. Not HIllary, she'd look like an ingrate if she challenged him.

The thing is, the reason why it is usually so difficult to vote out incumbants is that human nature is such that people are loathe to admit they made a mistake. 69 million people voted for Obama last time, compared to 57 million who voted for McCain. In order to make it competitive, you have to get six million of those people to change sides or stay home, while keeping all of your guys.

And the REpublicans seem intent on nominating a guy a lot of Republicans won't vote for either because of his religion or the fact he's a closet liberal.
 
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Obama-care gone? (if so that to me makes it 75-25)
Huge deficit with no return
loosing congress probably 100%
approval rating <40%

I was not old enough to know how big a surprise LBJ was
Libs this is your reality
I see that the reality that is the weak field of GOP candidates has finally set in for you. HOPING Obama will not run, will not make it so.
Young man
Obama has an approval rating below 40%
I agree the GOP field is weak compared to RR back in the day
do you really think this country wants 4 more years of this?
Do you think Obama thinks he can get re elected with the UE rate in the real world closer o 20 than 10?
 
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loosing congress probably 100%
approval rating <40%

I was not old enough to know how big a surprise LBJ was
Libs this is your reality
I don't see how he doesn't. There is no one in the Democratic Party to pick up the banner if he drops it right now. Not HIllary, she'd look like an ingrate if she challenged him.

The thing is, the reason why it is usually so difficult to vote out incumbants is that human nature is such that people are loathe to admit they made a mistake. 69 million people voted for Obama last time, compared to 57 million who voted for McCain. In order to make it competitive, you have to get six million of those people to change sides or stay home, while keeping all of your guys.

And the REpublicans seem intent on nominating a guy a lot of Republicans won't vote for either because of his religion or the fact he's a closet liberal.
Your thread is somewhat accurate
it really comes down to Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania
the 6 million vote swing could happen in Florida, NY and California
But I give you kudos for your thread
 

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Victory in Iraq, troops 100% gone
failed stimulus
5-6 million fewer jobs than in 2008
Gitmo 7-24s
Obama-care gone? (if so that to me makes it 75-25)
Huge deficit with no return
loosing congress probably 100%
approval rating <40%

I was not old enough to know how big a surprise LBJ was
Libs this is your reality
I don't see how he doesn't. There is no one in the Democratic Party to pick up the banner if he drops it right now. Not HIllary, she'd look like an ingrate if she challenged him.

The thing is, the reason why it is usually so difficult to vote out incumbants is that human nature is such that people are loathe to admit they made a mistake. 69 million people voted for Obama last time, compared to 57 million who voted for McCain. In order to make it competitive, you have to get six million of those people to change sides or stay home, while keeping all of your guys.

And the REpublicans seem intent on nominating a guy a lot of Republicans won't vote for either because of his religion or the fact he's a closet liberal.
Your thread is somewhat accurate
it really comes down to Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania
the 6 million vote swing could happen in Florida, NY and California
But I give you kudos for your thread
I don't think you are going to see a situation like 2000 again. I think that if you have a situation like that, no one is going to say, "Screw the voters, I'm going for our guy!" If it comes down to the EC, Obama already has an obscene advantage because he has California, NY and IL locked up. All the GOP can count on is Texas. (Unless Romney manages to tick off hispanics!) Florida, Ohio and PA are the wild cards. PA less so if the GOP legislature gets it way and makes the allocation proportional.

It seems to me that the GOP had a lot of good candidates- Huckabee, Daniels, Pawlenty, Barbour - and managed to drive them off. So now we are stuck with Romney and Perry. Seriously?
 

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Victory in Iraq, troops 100% gone
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5-6 million fewer jobs than in 2008
Gitmo 7-24s
Obama-care gone? (if so that to me makes it 75-25)
Huge deficit with no return
loosing congress probably 100%
approval rating <40%

I was not old enough to know how big a surprise LBJ was
Libs this is your reality
I see that the reality that is the weak field of GOP candidates has finally set in for you. HOPING Obama will not run, will not make it so.
Young man
Obama has an approval rating below 40%
I agree the GOP field is weak compared to RR back in the day
do you really think this country wants 4 more years of this?
Do you think Obama thinks he can get re elected with the UE rate in the real world closer o 20 than 10?
Thanks for the reality check :clap2:
 

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Victory in Iraq, troops 100% gone
failed stimulus
5-6 million fewer jobs than in 2008
Gitmo 7-24s
Obama-care gone? (if so that to me makes it 75-25)
Huge deficit with no return
loosing congress probably 100%
approval rating <40%

I was not old enough to know how big a surprise LBJ was
Libs this is your reality
Doesn't matter...He's a 100% narcissist, who doesn't believe any of his blunders are his fault.

All you need to do is re-elect him, burn through another $3-$5 trillion, and everything will be just peachy! :rolleyes:
 

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Obama-care gone? (if so that to me makes it 75-25)
Huge deficit with no return
loosing congress probably 100%
approval rating <40%

I was not old enough to know how big a surprise LBJ was
Libs this is your reality
I don't quite understand the text of your post, but I gather you're predicting with 50% certainty that Obama won't run for president in 2012. He is already running, he declared his candidacy months ago: President Obama announces reelection bid - The Washington Post.

And I'm quite sure he will continue to run, and he will be the Democratic candidate on election day. Intrade gives him about 93% chance of being the nominee, and I think that's a little low. I think you're allowing your opinion of Obama to color your predictions.

And for what it's worth, there' substantial evidence that LBJ's decision not to run was motivated in part by health reasons (he found the Presidency stressful, and died in retirement almost exactly four years after he left office). Obama of course does not seem to have any similar problems. He also has much better prospects of reelection than LBJ did.
 
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loosing congress probably 100%
approval rating <40%

I was not old enough to know how big a surprise LBJ was
Libs this is your reality
I don't quite understand the text of your post, but I gather you're predicting with 50% certainty that Obama won't run for president in 2012. He is already running, he declared his candidacy months ago: President Obama announces reelection bid - The Washington Post.

And I'm quite sure he will continue to run, and he will be the Democratic candidate on election day. Intrade gives him about 93% chance of being the nominee, and I think that's a little low. I think you're allowing your opinion of Obama to color your predictions.

And for what it's worth, there' substantial evidence that LBJ's decision not to run was motivated in part by health reasons (he found the Presidency stressful, and died in retirement almost exactly four years after he left office). Obama of course does not seem to have any similar problems. He also has much better prospects of reelection than LBJ did.
Your information is taken as well as accurate
BUT
Obama knows as well as the rest of the country right now he is not electable. My thread claims that behind the scenes there ia a serious efffort looking at other prospects
Let me add it looks as though the Dems are going to lose the congress also

I maybe wrong, you thread was done with respect
I thank you for that
 

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Victory in Iraq, troops 100% gone
failed stimulus
5-6 million fewer jobs than in 2008
Gitmo 7-24s
Obama-care gone? (if so that to me makes it 75-25)
Huge deficit with no return
loosing congress probably 100%
approval rating <40%

I was not old enough to know how big a surprise LBJ was
Libs this is your reality
I don't quite understand the text of your post, but I gather you're predicting with 50% certainty that Obama won't run for president in 2012. He is already running, he declared his candidacy months ago: President Obama announces reelection bid - The Washington Post.

And I'm quite sure he will continue to run, and he will be the Democratic candidate on election day. Intrade gives him about 93% chance of being the nominee, and I think that's a little low. I think you're allowing your opinion of Obama to color your predictions.

And for what it's worth, there' substantial evidence that LBJ's decision not to run was motivated in part by health reasons (he found the Presidency stressful, and died in retirement almost exactly four years after he left office). Obama of course does not seem to have any similar problems. He also has much better prospects of reelection than LBJ did.
Your information is taken as well as accurate
BUT
Obama knows as well as the rest of the country right now he is not electable. My thread claims that behind the scenes there ia a serious efffort looking at other prospects
Let me add it looks as though the Dems are going to lose the congress also

I maybe wrong, you thread was done with respect
I thank you for that
We just assume you're wrong and move on. We're batting 1,000 beeotch!
 

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Victory in Iraq, troops 100% gone
failed stimulus
5-6 million fewer jobs than in 2008
Gitmo 7-24s
Obama-care gone? (if so that to me makes it 75-25)
Huge deficit with no return
loosing congress probably 100%
approval rating <40%

I was not old enough to know how big a surprise LBJ was
Libs this is your reality
The civil war in Iraq continue regardless of the presence of US troops.
Stimulus succeeded, economy saved.
Gitmo is not closed because of Congress.
Handed a 1.2 trillion dollar deficit.
Dems could gain seats in both the House and Senate.
The poll that matter is coming in Nov.
 

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Do you really believe that stuff?

Delusions are difficult to overcome, aren't they? :cool:
 

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try facts sometime .

you may find you actually prefer them to fox propaganda and you wont look so fucking stupid.
 

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Do you really believe that stuff?

Delusions are difficult to overcome, aren't they? :cool:
None of that posted by BlindBoo is delusional and your ad hominem response supports the theory that you are ignorant. The only question being is that ignorance willful or otherwise.
 

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Its fun to look back at the shit that was posted a year ago.
 

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