Professor: Hamas fakes casualty figures: ‘The numbers are not real’ [Gaza DEATH Ministry].

[rylah]

No Zionist has dared answer my question - "Is zionist Israel an egalitarian society" if the answer is "no" then that's because it is a Jew supremacist society, really rather obvious, just do a web search for that question, copy and paste the question and see what comes back.

Yes, read the declaration of independence.

Why boast about your ignorance?

 

[rylah]

No society at all is purely egalitarian. Israel is pretty darned close.

Every developing society is egalitarian compared to Arab states.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Yes, read declaration of independence.

I have and that talks of "a Jewish state" and " the natural right of the Jewish people to be masters of their own fate" and "THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A JEWISH STATE" and "open for Jewish immigration" and so on.

The flag and emblem of Israel are Jewish symbols, Jewish emblems.

Couple that declaration with the Basic Laws, for example this one:

The realization of the right to national self determination in the State of Israel is exclusive to the Jewish People.

If you have difficulty grasping the racist nature of all this lets rephrase that basic law as an experiment

The realization of the right to national self determination in the State of France is exclusive to the French People.

or

The realization of the right to national self determination in the United States of America is exclusive to the White People.

An egalitarian state would pay no heed to the ethnicity or racial ancestry of its citizens. If the words "Jew" and "Jewish" were to be removed from the declaration, basic laws and so on then I'd agree it would be egalitarian but it does contain those words.

Egalitarian

Egalitarianism (from French égal 'equal'), or equalitarianism,[1][2] is a school of thought within political philosophy that builds on the concept of social equality, prioritizing it for all people.[3] Egalitarian doctrines are generally characterized by the idea that all humans are equal in fundamental worth or moral status.[4] As such, all citizens of a state should be accorded equal rights and treatment under the law.[5][6]

If Israel were egalitarian then the declaration of independence, basic laws and the constitution (but Israel doesn't even have one) would not need to mention "Jew" or "Jews" or "Jewish" there'd be no need...

Palestinian citizens of Israel object to all this for the same reasons Jews would object if all those documents had "Jew" replaced with "Arab" and the emblem was

 

[Shusha]

I have and that talks of "a Jewish state" and " the natural right of the Jewish people to be masters of their own fate" and "THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A JEWISH STATE" and "open for Jewish immigration" and so on.

The flag and emblem of Israel are Jewish symbols, Jewish emblems.

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Couple that declaration with the Basic Laws, for example this one:



If you have difficulty grasping the racist nature of all this lets rephrase that basic law as an experiment


or


An egalitarian state would pay no heed to the ethnicity or racial ancestry of its citizens. If the words "Jew" and "Jewish" were to be removed from the declaration, basic laws and so on then I'd agree it would be egalitarian but it does contain those words.

Egalitarian



If Israel were egalitarian then the declaration of independence, basic laws and the constitution (but Israel doesn't even have one) would not need to mention "Jew" or "Jews" or "Jewish" there'd be no need...

Palestinian citizens of Israel object to all this for the same reasons Jews would object if all those documents had "Jew" replaced with "Arab" and the emblem was

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The level of hypocrisy is astounding.

 

[rylah]

I have and that talks of "a Jewish state" and " the natural right of the Jewish people to be masters of their own fate" and "THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A JEWISH STATE" and "open for Jewish immigration" and so on.

The flag and emblem of Israel are Jewish symbols, Jewish emblems.

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Couple that declaration with the Basic Laws, for example this one:



If you have difficulty grasping the racist nature of all this lets rephrase that basic law as an experiment


or


An egalitarian state would pay no heed to the ethnicity or racial ancestry of its citizens. If the words "Jew" and "Jewish" were to be removed from the declaration, basic laws and so on then I'd agree it would be egalitarian but it does contain those words.

Egalitarian



If Israel were egalitarian then the declaration of independence, basic laws and the constitution (but Israel doesn't even have one) would not need to mention "Jew" or "Jews" or "Jewish" there'd be no need...

Palestinian citizens of Israel object to all this for the same reasons Jews would object if all those documents had "Jew" replaced with "Arab" and the emblem was

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But you conveniently left out the part about equality regardless religion, sex etc.

Therefore if your premise is that the identity of the state being Jewish,
then you simply deny any nation-state as being an egalitarian,
which is of course a false premise, not only because the
most egalitarian societies are nation states, but also
it contradicts your narrative of Arab Palestine.

So which is it?
Do you want another non-egalitarian Arab state,
or only scapegoat Jews having a better state of their own?

 

[gipper]

But you conveniently left out the part about equality regardless religion, sex etc.

Therefore if your premise is that the identity of the state being Jewish,
then you simply deny any nation-state as being an egalitarian,
which is of course a false premise, not only because the
most egalitarian societies are nation states, but also
it contradicts your narrative of Arab Palestine.

So which is it?
Do you want another non-egalitarian Arab state,
or only scapegoat Jews having a better state of their own?

Do Zionists see the contradiction?

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

But you conveniently left out the part about equality regardless religion, sex etc.

Yes because they are lies, lofty rhetoric, claims that are contradicted by the racist laws. All Israeli citizens are equal but some are more equal than others.

Therefore if your premise is that the identity of the state being Jewish,
then you simply deny any nation-state as being an egalitarian,

It isn't egalitarian.

which is of course a false premise, not only because the

It was not a premise it was a deduction.

most egalitarian societies are nation states, but also
it contradicts your narrative of Arab Palestine.

But its clear you don't even know what a contradiction is.

So which is it?
Do you want another non-egalitarian Arab state,

No, we need a new state that isn't based on racial supremacy.

or only scapegoat Jews having a better state of their own?

I don't see what's "better" about living behind barbed wire, in a crumbling third world cesspit surrounded by enemies who are sworn to your destruction.

Zionism is a religion, one based on idolatry, nationalism is idolatry.

 

[rylah]

Do Zionists see the contradiction?

Yes, apparently you need to draw outrage from another conflict,
because facts don't support the narrative.

Were their lives worthless when Assad
sent the ISIS asses in the Pali camps
to Shaitan - using barrel bombs?

 

[rylah]

Yes because they are lies, lofty rhetoric, claims that are contradicted by the racist laws. All Israeli citizens are equal but some are more equal than other.

It isn't egalitarian.

It was not a premise it was a conclusion.

But you don't even know what a contradiction is.

No, we need a new state that isn't based on racial supremacy.

I don't see what's "better" about living in a cesspit surrounded by enemies who are sworn to your destruction.

Zionism is a religion, one based on idolatry, nationalism is idolatry.

Apparently you don't have a counterargument to defend your false premise.

But that's the law, whether you want to call it a lie or not - that's a fact.
And the above also proves you know "Arab Palestine"
is exactly the opposite of an egalitarian society.

So which is it?
Do you need another Arab state to improve anyone's conditions,
or for Jews to have none - explain how is that an "egalitarian" position?

 

[rylah]

And while you give us an example of an "egalitarian" Arab state,

regarding Gaza casualties...how many times will he be

reported as "victim of Jews" in the next few weeks?

Gazan Hamas critic hospitalised after machete attack

Amin Abed was assualted with ‘sticks, clubs and knives’, his father said

www.thejc.com

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Apparently you don't have a counterargument to defend your false premise.

One doesn't use arguments to defend premises, that's why they're called premises.

But that's the law, whether you want to call it a lie or not - that's a fact.
And the above also proves you know "Arab Palestine"
is exactly the opposite of an egalitarian society.

So which is it?
Do you need another Arab state to improve anyone's conditions,
or for Jews to have none - explain how is that an "egalitarian" position?

We could have had a single state named "Palestine" that did not define special exclusive privileges to some particular race or social group. The Zionists refused that though and we got what we have, a fake country who's immorality is becoming visible to more and more people around the world.

 

[gipper]

Yes, apparently you need to draw outrage from another conflict,
because facts don't support the narrative.

Were their lives worthless when Assad
sent the ISIS asses in the Pali camps
to Shaitan - using barrel bombs?

Do you support this?

 

[rylah]

One doesn't use arguments to defend premises, that's why they're called premises.

We could have had a single state named "Palestine" that did not define special exclusive privileges to some particular race or social group. The Zionists refused that though and we got what we have, a fake country who's immorality is becoming visible to more and more people around the world.

So you admit to relying on false premises knowingly, what is that?

And since it's obvious you won't have to share
the consequence of that supremacist agenda
with the people actually involved...

Who's the we
in that non-exclusive,
non-particular "Arab Palestine"?

 

[rylah]

Do you support this?

Do I support al-Jihadzeera schemes and cheap theatrics?

 

[Sayaras]

Knockoff Nakbas.
by Seth Mandel, May 14, 2024.

Knockoff Nakbas

The nakba-ization of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is the process of historical revisionism by which the accurate and documented history is replaced retroactively by a lab-grown narrative favored by activists and

www.commentary.org

The Other 'Nakba.'
By Jeffrey Goldberg.
May 15, 2012

The Other 'Nakba'

Today is the day Palestinians commemorate the Nakba, the disaster.

www.theatlantic.com

What about the Jewish Nakba?
Op-ed: For decades, the Palestinians have nurtured the ethos of the Nakba while Israel chose to downplay the persecutions and expulsion of the Arab Jews. It is time to set the record straight.
Ben-Dror Yemini|Published: 11.28.14.

"If the Jewish state becomes a fact, and this is realized by the Arab peoples, they will drive the Jews who live in their midst into the sea." This statement was made by Hassan al-Banna, the founder of the Muslim Brotherhood, about a month and a half after the declaration of the independence, and with the Egyptian Army already having invaded the territory allotted to the Jewish state.
The Mufti, Haj Amin al-Husseini, explained in his memoirs: "Our fundamental condition for cooperating with Germany was a free hand to eradicate every last Jew from Palestine and the Arab world."

What about the Jewish Nakba?

Op-ed: For decades, the Palestinians have nurtured the ethos of the Nakba while Israel chose to downplay the persecutions and expulsion of the Arab Jews. It is time to set the record straight.

www.ynetnews.com

There Was a Jewish Nakba, and It Was Even Bigger than the Palestinian One.
Edy Cohen,
The Tower, Issue 49. June 2016.

There Was a Jewish Nakba, and It Was Even Bigger than the Palestinian One - The Tower

The expulsion of Jews from Arab countries, one of the biggest humanitarian crises of the 20th century, is all the more tragic for how little it is recognized today. Palestinians and the various activists and organizations that identify with them marked “Nakba Day” on May 15. This day...

www.thetower.org

'The nakbas.'
By Hen Mazzig. The Jerusalem Post, May 3, 2018.
I wish these people had half of the sympathy they have for the Palestinians for the millions that were and still are truly oppressed by imperial power.

The nakbas

I wish these people had half of the sympathy they have for the Palestinians for the millions that were and still are truly oppressed by imperial power.

www.jpost.com

Nakba was result of Palestinians backing Nazis during WWII.
Opinion: The longer only one side of the so-called Palestinian Catastrophe is cultivated, the longer hatred will continue to be nurtured, while historical facts point to Palestinians openly supporting Nazi propaganda during WWII.
Ben-Dror Yemini | published:05.15.22

Nakba was result of Palestinians backing Nazis during WWII

Opinion: The longer only one side of the so-called Palestinian Catastrophe is cultivated, the longer hatred will continue to be nurtured, while historical facts point to Palestinians openly supporting Nazi propaganda during WWII

www.ynetnews.com

Nakba’s history & ‘ethnic cleansing.’
By Robert Cherry, New York Daily News, November 8, 2023.

The Nakba narrative, from the Arabic word “catastrophe,” is now associated with the so-called ethnic cleansing of Palestinians by the state of Israel in 1948. However, when the term Nakba was first used, it had nothing to do with the displacement of 700,000 Palestinians.

Nakba’s history & ‘ethnic cleansing’

The Nakba narrative, from the Arabic word “catastrophe,” is now associated with the so-called ethnic cleansing of Palestinians by the state of Israel in 1948. However, when the term Nakba was first…

www.nydailynews.com

Palestinians are addicted to an endless cycle of ‘nakbas.’
Israel’s pushback against rocket fire generated the usual condemnations. But the fighting with a rogue terror group based in Gaza is just the latest chapter of a century-old war against the Jews.
JNS, May 9, 2023.

Palestinians are addicted to an endless cycle of ‘nakbas’ - JNS.org

Israel’s pushback against rocket fire generated the usual condemnations. But the fighting with a rogue terror group based in Gaza is just the latest chapter of a century-old war against the Jews.

www.jns.org

Multiple Nakbas Imposed Upon American Jews.
May 24, 2023.
By Bruce S. Ticker.

Multiple Nakbas Imposed Upon American Jews - San Diego Jewish World

By Bruce S. Ticker PHILADELPHIA — Rep. Rashida Tlaib’s Nakba Day resolution opens with a brazen lie: “…the Nakba is the root cause of the issues that continue to divide Israel and the Palestinian people today.” The Democratic congresswoman’s resolution for May 15 calls for commemorating the 75th...

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