1963 to 2016

[daws101]

This drives my point

Believe me, we get a hell of a lot more return on r&d then the iraq war will ever have.

From the same site I've ran into the number that the federal government invests as much as 40% of all r&d funding. This is of course is down from 70% in the time frame you're discussing. America was doing great in the 1960's! Every great civilization in history spent on such things and always when they collapsed had to do with either too much war or a end to such spending.

Nice chart. Steepest decline in R&D spending started in 2009.
What else happened in 2009?

not the Obama did it ploy again!

 

[Weatherman2020]

This drives my point

Believe me, we get a hell of a lot more return on r&d then the iraq war will ever have.

From the same site I've ran into the number that the federal government invests as much as 40% of all r&d funding. This is of course is down from 70% in the time frame you're discussing. America was doing great in the 1960's! Every great civilization in history spent on such things and always when they collapsed had to do with either too much war or a end to such spending.

Nice chart. Steepest decline in R&D spending started in 2009.
What else happened in 2009?

not the Obama did it ploy again!

Not the Obama is not responsible for America ploy again!

 

[daws101]

This drives my point

Believe me, we get a hell of a lot more return on r&d then the iraq war will ever have.

From the same site I've ran into the number that the federal government invests as much as 40% of all r&d funding. This is of course is down from 70% in the time frame you're discussing. America was doing great in the 1960's! Every great civilization in history spent on such things and always when they collapsed had to do with either too much war or a end to such spending.

Nice chart. Steepest decline in R&D spending started in 2009.
What else happened in 2009?

not the Obama did it ploy again!

Not the Obama is not responsible for America ploy again!

Not for shit that started long before he was in office.
The recession started in 2007 under bush .
Thanks for playing!

 

[Weatherman2020]

This drives my point

Believe me, we get a hell of a lot more return on r&d then the iraq war will ever have.

From the same site I've ran into the number that the federal government invests as much as 40% of all r&d funding. This is of course is down from 70% in the time frame you're discussing. America was doing great in the 1960's! Every great civilization in history spent on such things and always when they collapsed had to do with either too much war or a end to such spending.

Nice chart. Steepest decline in R&D spending started in 2009.
What else happened in 2009?

not the Obama did it ploy again!

Not the Obama is not responsible for America ploy again!

Not for shit that started long before he was in office.
The recession started in 2007 under bush .
Thanks for playing!

Shitforbrains thinks a chart showing the dive in R&D spending starting in 2009 is a recession chart.

 

[AntonToo]

In 1963 the United states government funded a much larger portion of the gdp on infrastructure, science, r&d(70%). Of course, you don't know what you're talking about and that really doesn't surprise anyone. So you think Germany, Britiain, norway, Sweden, Japan and south Korea are dangerous? Government been paving roads and investing in science in countries like the roman empire and china for at least 2,500 years. I guess they're such failures and didn't do anything to improve humanity.

Are any of those countries $20,000,000,000,000 in debt?

Do any of those countries have annual GDP of $14,000,000,000,000?

 

[daws101]

This drives my point

Believe me, we get a hell of a lot more return on r&d then the iraq war will ever have.

From the same site I've ran into the number that the federal government invests as much as 40% of all r&d funding. This is of course is down from 70% in the time frame you're discussing. America was doing great in the 1960's! Every great civilization in history spent on such things and always when they collapsed had to do with either too much war or a end to such spending.

Nice chart. Steepest decline in R&D spending started in 2009.
What else happened in 2009?

not the Obama did it ploy again!

Not the Obama is not responsible for America ploy again!

Not for shit that started long before he was in office.
The recession started in 2007 under bush .
Thanks for playing!

Shitforbrains thinks a chart showing the dive in R&D spending starting in 2009 is a recession chart.

Classic false accusation .
Shit head .
The r&d dive as everything else in that recession began under bush .
It is not a separate issue.
Fail!

 

[AntonToo]

In 1963 an individual(s) like Barack Hussein Obama, Bernie Sanders...were and would be considered to have radically dangerous political beliefs....

Is that so? Maybe you can actually point out which "radically dangerous political beliefs" these two have?

 

[Weatherman2020]

Nice chart. Steepest decline in R&D spending started in 2009.
What else happened in 2009?

not the Obama did it ploy again!

Not the Obama is not responsible for America ploy again!

Not for shit that started long before he was in office.
The recession started in 2007 under bush .
Thanks for playing!

Shitforbrains thinks a chart showing the dive in R&D spending starting in 2009 is a recession chart.

Classic false accusation .
Shit head .
The r&d dive as everything else in that recession began under bush .
It is not a separate issue.
Fail!

Government spending took a dive in 2007?

 

[daws101]

not the Obama did it ploy again!

Not the Obama is not responsible for America ploy again!

Not for shit that started long before he was in office.
The recession started in 2007 under bush .
Thanks for playing!

Shitforbrains thinks a chart showing the dive in R&D spending starting in 2009 is a recession chart.

Classic false accusation .
Shit head .
The r&d dive as everything else in that recession began under bush .
It is not a separate issue.
Fail!

Government spending took a dive in 2007?View attachment 78749

Government Spending Details in $ billion: Federal State Local for 2007 - Charts

 

[Staidhup]

The dot com bust, fueled by Clinton, inherited by Bush, prompted the adoption of Sarbanes Oxley, Deregulation of banking, and overturn of Glass Steagall, overwhelmingly endorsed and signed by Clinton, singularly most important legislation responsible for the financial crisis, inherited by Bush. Barney and crew shut down Bush's request for a comprehensive audit of Fannie and Freddie M's underwriting practices and assumption of risk. So please give us a break. Clinton was too dam busy dipping his pin in the company ink and taking money from his cronies on Wall Street to know what was going on.

 

[daws101]

The dot com bust, fueled by Clinton, inherited by Bush, prompted the adoption of Sarbanes Oxley, Deregulation of banking, and overturn of Glass Steagall, overwhelmingly endorsed and signed by Clinton, singularly most important legislation responsible for the financial crisis, inherited by Bush. Barney and crew shut down Bush's request for a comprehensive audit of Fannie and Freddie M's underwriting practices and assumption of risk. So please give us a break. Clinton was too dam busy dipping his pin in the company ink and taking money from his cronies on Wall Street to know what was going on.

if you are going to blame Clinton ,then logically you must blame daddy Bush and Reagan before him.

 

[Syriusly]

In 1963 an individual(s) like Barack Hussein Obama, Bernie Sanders, and Lee Harvey Oswald were and would be considered to have radically dangerous political beliefs (Oswald would call himself a progressive today). But, in 2016 Obama and Sanders are considered legit. Is this a sign of how far we have came, or a sign of how far we have fallen?

This is a sign of how far we have fallen

 

[Bush92]

In 1963 an individual(s) like Barack Hussein Obama, Bernie Sanders...were and would be considered to have radically dangerous political beliefs....

Is that so? Maybe you can actually point out which "radically dangerous political beliefs" these two have?

Redistribution of wealth, raising tax rate to 60pct. And socialism in general.

 

[Bush92]

In 1963 an individual(s) like Barack Hussein Obama, Bernie Sanders, and Lee Harvey Oswald were and would be considered to have radically dangerous political beliefs (Oswald would call himself a progressive today). But, in 2016 Obama and Sanders are considered legit. Is this a sign of how far we have came, or a sign of how far we have fallen?

This is a sign of how far we have fallen

View attachment 78777

Man of the people.

 

[Syriusly]

In 1963 an individual(s) like Barack Hussein Obama, Bernie Sanders, and Lee Harvey Oswald were and would be considered to have radically dangerous political beliefs (Oswald would call himself a progressive today). But, in 2016 Obama and Sanders are considered legit. Is this a sign of how far we have came, or a sign of how far we have fallen?

This is a sign of how far we have fallen

View attachment 78777

Man of the people.

Yeah- born into wealth, stayed in wealth.

Believes in hiring foreign workers for his resorts
Believes in eminent domain to the benefit of his commercial enterprises

Man of the 'people'.....LOL

 

[Bush92]

In 1963 an individual(s) like Barack Hussein Obama, Bernie Sanders, and Lee Harvey Oswald were and would be considered to have radically dangerous political beliefs (Oswald would call himself a progressive today). But, in 2016 Obama and Sanders are considered legit. Is this a sign of how far we have came, or a sign of how far we have fallen?

This is a sign of how far we have fallen

View attachment 78777

Man of the people.

Yeah- born into wealth, stayed in wealth.

Believes in hiring foreign workers for his resorts
Believes in eminent domain to the benefit of his commercial enterprises

Man of the 'people'.....LOL

Yeah-took start up cash and became a wildly successful businessman.
Does not micro-manage his operations and has created thousands of jobs for hard working Americans.
Believes in the 5th Amendment to the Constitution.

 

[Markle]

America was a much greater nation in 1962 and the economy was rolling.

Yes. Because we treated our workforce well. Everyone made money. The Country was healthy.
In 1973, I was able to pay rent, buy food and run a car...on minimum wage!

[/QUOTE]
Really ?
The 1973–75 recession or 1970srecession was a period of economic stagnation in much of the Western world during the 1970s, putting an end to the general post-World War II economic boom. It differed from many previous recessions as being a stagflation, where high unemployment coincided with high inflation.
1973–75 recession - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/QUOTE]

The minimum wage in 1973 was $1.60 per hour or $64.00 for a 40 hour week or $3,200.00 per year.

Give me a break, I lived and prospered through the '70's. I transferred here to Tallahassee from Key West in 1971. I entered the real estate profession in March of 1973. I survived the reign of Jimmy Carter. Given your supposed income of $3,200.00 per year, less income tax and Social Security you did NOT pay rent, insurance, groceries, a car along with gas, maintenance, and insurance.

 

[daws101]

America was a much greater nation in 1962 and the economy was rolling.

Yes. Because we treated our workforce well. Everyone made money. The Country was healthy.
In 1973, I was able to pay rent, buy food and run a car...on minimum wage!

Really ?
The 1973–75 recession or 1970srecession was a period of economic stagnation in much of the Western world during the 1970s, putting an end to the general post-World War II economic boom. It differed from many previous recessions as being a stagflation, where high unemployment coincided with high inflation.
1973–75 recession - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/QUOTE]

The minimum wage in 1973 was $1.60 per hour or $64.00 for a 40 hour week or $3,200.00 per year.

Give me a break, I lived and prospered through the '70's. I transferred here to Tallahassee from Key West in 1971. I entered the real estate profession in March of 1973. I survived the reign of Jimmy Carter. Given your supposed income of $3,200.00 per year, less income tax and Social Security you did NOT pay rent, insurance, groceries, a car along with gas, maintenance, and insurance.[/QUOTE]
Hey asshat I lived through the 70's too.
Given your location at the time and your business .
You were an exception.

 

[daws101]

That '70s Crisis | Dollars & Sense

 

[AntonToo]

Redistribution of wealth, raising tax rate to 60pct. And socialism in general.

As I suspected, a bad case of ignorance underlied the original post of this thread

Redistribution of wealth? You mean like foodstamps, education grants, medicaid, public education, welfare? That sort of crazy radical stuff?

60% tax rate? In 1963 top marginal tax rate was 90%, 60% was a righty position in 1963.

"Socialism in general" for those two adds up to a bit higher taxes, higher minimum wage and free state college education and healthcare...in other words it DOESN'T add up at all, unless you consider Sweden, England and Canada socialist countries.