10/2020: Solar is now ‘Cheapest Electricity in History’, confirms IEA

[Stann]

Renewables increase the use of Fossil Fuels.

Why are you supporting something that is a threat to our lives.

The lesser of two evils and the world seems to agree with me. There are problems with everything.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

They are cheaper per kWh than any form of fossil fuel.

Liar.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

These people are either proponents of fossil fuels or just plain obstinant.

Or we like cheap, reliable fossil fuel energy.

 

[westwall]

Fossil fuels were a good idea in their day , that day is now over. The world has moved on.

Really? Windmills have been around for centuries.

You think those are a step forward?

 

[elektra]

The lesser of two evils and the world seems to agree with me. There are problems with everything.

The lesser of two evils? Renewables, Solar, Wind increase the use of fossil fuels, coal, oil, etc..

Yep, very little electricity for a very large investment is huge problem.

 

[elektra]

Fossil fuels were a good idea in their day , that day is now over. The world has moved on.

You can not build Solar or Wind power without an extremely large percentage of all Fossil Fuels. You are telling us, Wind and Solar is now over and we must move on.

 

[elektra]

What do you think the current infrastructure based on fossil fuels cost is / was , besides threatening our very lives ( all life ) on this planet ? The end !

I know what the future cost of Wind/Solar based power is, $200 trillion to start.

 

[Stann]

I know what the future cost of Wind/Solar based power is, $200 trillion to start.

And I know Americans spend $700 million to $1 billion dollars each year on fossil fuels with the incalculable costs to health and the environment. Like I've said all along fossil fuels will run out sooner than we can imagine and long before that happens the costs will make it prohibitive to use them as we are using them today. We can't wait until that day to develop alternatives. Thank GOD for forward-thinking people.

 

[westwall]

And I know Americans spend $700 million to $1 billion dollars each year on fossil fuels with the incalculable costs to health and the environment. Like I've said all along fossil fuels will run out sooner than we can imagine and long before that happens the costs will make it prohibitive to use them as we are using them today. We can't wait until that day to develop alternatives. Thank GOD for forward-thinking people.

Incalculable in what way? You love to throw that word around but the facts are simple. You would be living a cold, very hard, and very short life were it not for fossil fuels.

By themselves they have extended the lifespan of humans, and made human lives BETTER, than any invention ever created.

That is a simple, VERY calcuable fact.

Your claims are not supported by empirical evidence.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Just ask your own computer this question , what is the cheapest form of electricity. As of 2022 it is renewables and that's not going to change no matter how much you say it isn't.

How much does a MWh of solar generated electricity cost.....at midnight?

 

[Crick]

You'll have to pardon us if we take the IEA's opinion on this matter over that of every denier on the forum. It's a matter of actual expertise.

 

[Stann]

You'll have to pardon us if we take the IEA's opinion on this matter over that of every denier on the forum. It's a matter of actual expertise.

And that's a wrap folks !

 

[abu afak]

Really? Windmills have been around for centuries.

You think those are a step forward?

How long has coal been around?
You think that's a step forward?
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[Orangecat]

Go solar if you want. It’s great for handheld calculators. I’ll stick to the power and reliability of combustion, myself. The future is nuclear.

 

[Stann]

How long has coal been around?
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Archaeological evidence suggests that coal was mined in China. 3, 600 years ago. But even coal will run out in 300 years at the current rate of consumption.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

How long has coal been around?
You think that's a step forward?
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Reliable fossil fuels are a step forward over unreliable wind and solar.

 

[westwall]

How long has coal been around?
You think that's a step forward?
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As a fuel source for generating electricity a hundred years or so. And it is orders of magnitude more efficient than wind or solar.

 

[abu afak]

As a fuel source for generating electricity a hundred years or so. And it is orders of magnitude more efficient than wind or solar.

Another one-line EMPTY Claim/"No."
You are just TOO STUPID TO DEBATE. (Elektra joining you of late)
A Counterclaim is not debate and does not refute the huge authority of the OP and many other posts made throughout.

And it was YOU who implied Old was was not step forward. Another post Backfired by me up your dumb @ss.
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[westwall]

Another one-line EMPTY Claim/"No."
You are just TOO STUPID TO DEBATE. (Elektra joining you of late)
A Counterclaim is not debate and does not refute the huge authority of the OP and many other posts made throughout.

And it was YOU who implied Old was was not step forward. Another post Backfired by me up your dumb @ss.
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You don't debate. You spew. A ton of coal contains slightly more than 20 million BTU. Tell the class how long a windmill would need to spin to create a similar amount of energy.

 

[Stann]

You don't debate. You spew. A ton of coal contains slightly more than 20 million BTU. Tell the class how long a windmill would need to spin to create a similar amount of energy.

How much longer will there be coal ? All the clean coal is gone ( anthracite ) . They are burning dirty coal now ( bituminous ) and how much more of that can the earth take ? The climate change crisis is upon us , and we keep adding to the problem. The sun isn't going anywhere and it suppose to last another 5 billion years.