Young People Do Not Understand the Israel - "Palestine" Issue

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Way before The Ayatollah Obama started importing Muslims; long before Hamas ever slithered in from Egypt, and well before most kiddies today were born (i.e., the ones from generations after Gen X), anti-Jew; anti-Israel terrorism against the people of Israel was a continuous thing. Those swarthy "Palestinians" would strap a bomb on them then go to a crowed cafe or shopping mall in Israel and blow up, kill, and maim a lot of innocent civilians, even children. Israel had to put up metal and bomb material detection equipment at the entrance of public places all over in an attempt to prevent mass civilian casualties from those bombers. You would have to get scanned just to go to the bathroom and take a leak. On every street corner in the cities stood Israeli soldiers armed with true assault weapons to guard the citizenry. They were needed too, and they were often put into action.

Back them the PLO ran the P-people resistance. Like today, the sticking point is their refusal to acknowledge Israel's right to exist. There was a brokered 2 state resolution under the waning days of Arafat, but they screwed it up because they would not recognize Israel's right to exist. Arafat did not want to do that because (1) Peace would screw up his hustle; and (2) many, many "Palestinians" will not give up their malignant desire to see Jews dead. They want to push the Jews forcefully "from the river and to the sea", and into the sea to drown. These are not radicals either. This is the view of virtually ALL "Palestinian" people.

The people in Gaza are basically rotten, despicable, violent, ignorant a-holes. Israel has long ceded both Gaza and the West Bank to these goons and their offspring. BTW, do you know why the proportion of children and young people is so high in Gaza? Because there is a lot of rape and "Palestinian" on "Palestinian" violence in Gaza, as well as terrorist activites. It is a shit hole. Just think, Israel gave them the land and allows them to govern themselves. Did they prosper? Nope. They continue to play victim. These are not exactly God's best people. But I digress.

Yet, despite getting these concessions from Israel, they are still unhappy. What more do they want? They want all Jews to die, for one thing. See, when you try to appease truly despicable and bad people, they will keep pushing it to see how far they can go. This is exactly what the "Palestinians" have done here.

Today's young people have no clue of the history of this region. I am not talking about who squatted on the land first in time before Christ was born. All of that is irrelevant. These "Palestinians" are dogs, murderous cruel dogs. Now, to be fair, there are probably like 2 or 3 of them that live peaceful lives without a hard-on for mass Jew murder. But most of them are fucked up people who value life much less than we do here in the civilized western world. It is a fact. It is not good or bad, it is just a fact. Even the people in other muslim countries who do not have to deal with Israel value life much differently than we do in the west.

Youngsters today think they can go over to Gaza, grab them up an armload of "Palestinians", and hug them. They believe that their behavior is a direct result, and ONLY results from, years of oppression by Israel, even though the facts do not support this view. The western white "Palestinian" supporter... "Palestinians" would cut his balls off and leave him to bleed out with a second thought upon sight of him, regardless of his political viewpoints and "inclusive" attitude. These Arabs are rough, crude, vicious people. Any thought contrary is pure folly premised on ignorance. I was born in 1970 and I remember no time in my life where those people were not waging terror attacks against Israel. That's 50 years. And it went on prior to that, back to the creation of Israel in 1947 (or'48, I do not remember exactly at the moment).

These are not people like Apu on the Simpsons, or "Nuk Nuk Muhammad" from upstairs who plays the wacky neighbor on some TV shitcom. These people will murder you. They hate Israelis and they hate Americans. Again, not all. But in Gaza, yeah, it's pretty much all of them. Even the children run around an anti-Israel demonstrations carrying real knives and guns and chanting about killing Jews.
 
I think it's worth mentioning that the sticking point is NOT that Israel has no right to exist; Israel has no right to exist AS A JEWISH STATE. Big, essential difference. The Arab world would be fine having Israel exist as a secular state or an Islamic state, but it "has no right" to exist as a Jewish state. This is a curious position to take, given that there are about fifty avowedly Islamic states in the world. If Israel were a secular state, it would quickly devolve into an Islamic state either formally or otherwise, because Muslims reproduce like rabbits and they would quickly take over the country politically.

It is also worth saying that Islam has many fundamental differences from countries with a Judeo-Christian heritage, whether formal or otherwise. First, Islam does not recognize or abhor the intermingling of Church and State. They have no problem whatsoever in a government where religious officials have the power and right to overrule acts by elected governments (e.g., Iran). Islam does not consider every human life as precious, and believe that death - especially death that can be deemed "martyrdom" is a good thing, not something to be avoided. Hence, Hamas has no problem tailoring its strategies to ensure the killing of many of its own partisans, if the overall objective can be furthered by such an atrocity.

And it goes without saying that, as with American Leftists, for Muslims there are many factors that can trump truthfulness. Hence, any formal statement by an Islamic organization or state must be taken with the proverbial "grain of salt."

It goes along with the silly conceit that people in distant history can be evaluated based on today's values, immature Americans presume that all people are alike; we just have to understand them better and treat them nicely.
 
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I think it's worth mentioning that the sticking point is NOT that Israel has no right to exist; Israel has no right to exist AS A JEWISH STATE. Big, essential difference. The Arab world would be fine having Israel exist as a secular state or an Islamic state, but it "has no right" to exist as a Jewish state. This is a curious position to take, given that there are about fifty avowedly Islamic states in the world. If Israel were a secular state, it would quickly devolve into an Islamic state either formally or otherwise, because Muslims reproduce like rabbits and they would quickly take over the country politically.

It is also worth saying that Islam has many fundamental differences from countries with a Judeo-Christian heritage, whether formal or otherwise. First, Islam does not recognize or abhor the intermingling of Church and State. They have no problem whatsoever in a government where religious officials have the power and right to overrule acts by elected governments (e.g., Iran). Islam does not consider every human life as precious, and believe that death - especially death that can be deemed "martyrdom" is a good thing, not something to be avoided. Hence, Hamas has no problem tailoring its strategies to ensure the killing of many of its own partisans, if the overall objective can be furthered by such an atrocity.

And it goes without saying that, as with American Leftists, for Muslims there are many factors that can trump truthfulness. Hence, any formal statement by an Islamic organization or state must be taken with the proverbial "grain of salt."

It goes along with the silly conceit that people in distant history can be evaluated based on today's values, immature Americans presume that all people are alike; we just have to understand them better and treat them nicely.
Listen, fuckhead, do you know the difference between state and nation, and therefore what a nation-state is? The Jewish religion is part of the national identity of Israel. It is both a secular state and a nation. GTF out of here with that stupid bullshit! You do not know what the fuck you are even talking about!
 
9: But Sarah saw the son of Hagar the Egyptian, whom she had borne to Abraham, playing with her son Isaac.
10: So she said to Abraham. "Cast out this slave woman with her son; for the son of this slave woman shall not inherit along with my son Isaac." -- Genesis Chapter 21 ...

Palestinians were promised their own homeland if they fought the Ottoman's ... they fought the Ottoman's ... so now where's their new homeland? ... if the English and French have no answer ... then England and France are the new homelands for the Palestinians ...

... or maybe bring back the Ottoman's ... these people behave under brutal repression ...
 
Way before The Ayatollah Obama started importing Muslims; long before Hamas ever slithered in from Egypt, and well before most kiddies today were born (i.e., the ones from generations after Gen X), anti-Jew; anti-Israel terrorism against the people of Israel was a continuous thing. Those swarthy "Palestinians" would strap a bomb on them then go to a crowed cafe or shopping mall in Israel and blow up, kill, and maim a lot of innocent civilians, even children. Israel had to put up metal and bomb material detection equipment at the entrance of public places all over in an attempt to prevent mass civilian casualties from those bombers. You would have to get scanned just to go to the bathroom and take a leak. On every street corner in the cities stood Israeli soldiers armed with true assault weapons to guard the citizenry. They were needed too, and they were often put into action.

Back them the PLO ran the P-people resistance. Like today, the sticking point is their refusal to acknowledge Israel's right to exist. There was a brokered 2 state resolution under the waning days of Arafat, but they screwed it up because they would not recognize Israel's right to exist. Arafat did not want to do that because (1) Peace would screw up his hustle; and (2) many, many "Palestinians" will not give up their malignant desire to see Jews dead. They want to push the Jews forcefully "from the river and to the sea", and into the sea to drown. These are not radicals either. This is the view of virtually ALL "Palestinian" people.

The people in Gaza are basically rotten, despicable, violent, ignorant a-holes. Israel has long ceded both Gaza and the West Bank to these goons and their offspring. BTW, do you know why the proportion of children and young people is so high in Gaza? Because there is a lot of rape and "Palestinian" on "Palestinian" violence in Gaza, as well as terrorist activites. It is a shit hole. Just think, Israel gave them the land and allows them to govern themselves. Did they prosper? Nope. They continue to play victim. These are not exactly God's best people. But I digress.

Yet, despite getting these concessions from Israel, they are still unhappy. What more do they want? They want all Jews to die, for one thing. See, when you try to appease truly despicable and bad people, they will keep pushing it to see how far they can go. This is exactly what the "Palestinians" have done here.

Today's young people have no clue of the history of this region. I am not talking about who squatted on the land first in time before Christ was born. All of that is irrelevant. These "Palestinians" are dogs, murderous cruel dogs. Now, to be fair, there are probably like 2 or 3 of them that live peaceful lives without a hard-on for mass Jew murder. But most of them are fucked up people who value life much less than we do here in the civilized western world. It is a fact. It is not good or bad, it is just a fact. Even the people in other muslim countries who do not have to deal with Israel value life much differently than we do in the west.

Youngsters today think they can go over to Gaza, grab them up an armload of "Palestinians", and hug them. They believe that their behavior is a direct result, and ONLY results from, years of oppression by Israel, even though the facts do not support this view. The western white "Palestinian" supporter... "Palestinians" would cut his balls off and leave him to bleed out with a second thought upon sight of him, regardless of his political viewpoints and "inclusive" attitude. These Arabs are rough, crude, vicious people. Any thought contrary is pure folly premised on ignorance. I was born in 1970 and I remember no time in my life where those people were not waging terror attacks against Israel. That's 50 years. And it went on prior to that, back to the creation of Israel in 1947 (or'48, I do not remember exactly at the moment).

These are not people like Apu on the Simpsons, or "Nuk Nuk Muhammad" from upstairs who plays the wacky neighbor on some TV shitcom. These people will murder you. They hate Israelis and they hate Americans. Again, not all. But in Gaza, yeah, it's pretty much all of them. Even the children run around an anti-Israel demonstrations carrying real knives and guns and chanting about killing Jews.

This is ignorant garbage.
 
9: But Sarah saw the son of Hagar the Egyptian, whom she had borne to Abraham, playing with her son Isaac.
10: So she said to Abraham. "Cast out this slave woman with her son; for the son of this slave woman shall not inherit along with my son Isaac." -- Genesis Chapter 21 ...

Palestinians were promised their own homeland if they fought the Ottoman's ... they fought the Ottoman's ... so now where's their new homeland? ... if the English and French have no answer ... then England and France are the new homelands for the Palestinians ...

... or maybe bring back the Ottoman's ... these people behave under brutal repression ...

The Ottomans were very hands off in Palestine. It was a sleepy backwater where the various groups managed themselves. The Greek Orthodox Church owned most land of any value.
 
America has always been able to rely on jesus and family being on it's side.

But now for some reason, the world is starting to have a closer look at China and the Brics becoming options.

Why/How can that be? Do America's 35-40 wars of aggression vs. China's successes with peace, change perceptions.

For one thing, it's going to make it a lot harder job for America to sell the civilian slaughter being planned by the apartheid regime.
 
It's not that they don't understand, they simply don't care. They want to belong to.something, anything, so they simply latch on to the age-old,.simplistic Marxist dichotomy that the world is of "oppressor and oppressed" rather than. "It is VERY complicated".
 
I think it's worth mentioning that the sticking point is NOT that Israel has no right to exist; Israel has no right to exist AS A JEWISH STATE. Big, essential difference. The Arab world would be fine having Israel exist as a secular state or an Islamic state, but it "has no right" to exist as a Jewish state. This is a curious position to take, given that there are about fifty avowedly Islamic states in the world. If Israel were a secular state, it would quickly devolve into an Islamic state either formally or otherwise, because Muslims reproduce like rabbits and they would quickly take over the country politically.

It is also worth saying that Islam has many fundamental differences from countries with a Judeo-Christian heritage, whether formal or otherwise. First, Islam does not recognize or abhor the intermingling of Church and State. They have no problem whatsoever in a government where religious officials have the power and right to overrule acts by elected governments (e.g., Iran). Islam does not consider every human life as precious, and believe that death - especially death that can be deemed "martyrdom" is a good thing, not something to be avoided. Hence, Hamas has no problem tailoring its strategies to ensure the killing of many of its own partisans, if the overall objective can be furthered by such an atrocity.

And it goes without saying that, as with American Leftists, for Muslims there are many factors that can trump truthfulness. Hence, any formal statement by an Islamic organization or state must be taken with the proverbial "grain of salt."

It goes along with the silly conceit that people in distant history can be evaluated based on today's values, immature Americans presume that all people are alike; we just have to understand them better and treat them nicely.

The Palestinians do not want a Muslim state. Don't you know a damned thing about the history of Palestine?
 
The Ottomans were very hands off in Palestine. It was a sleepy backwater where the various groups managed themselves. The Greek Orthodox Church owned most land of any value.

Sure ... that completely explains why they joined with the English to drive the Ottoman's out ... they wanted to be repressed by the Jews ...
 
please note-----surada is claiming that HAMAS is NOT ISLAMIC

They're not ... Muslims have very strict rules about warfare ... Hamas kills more Palestinians than the Israelis ... my Facebook friend from Israel has a boyfriend right now so she's not posting on Facebook ... maybe these new rockets are more accurate ... but generally speaking, about half these rockets land in the Gaza Strip ... not Israel ...

Islam doesn't allow the killing of innocent Muslims ...
 
The Ottomans were very hands off in Palestine. It was a sleepy backwater where the various groups managed themselves. The Greek Orthodox Church owned most land of any value.
a very misleading statement ^^^^ to wit "owned most land of any value"----
what the ARMENIAN CHURCH (which can be called "greek orthodox") owned was
land around and part of Jerusalem----and OF COURSE they still do. BY PURCHASE.
What the jews owned was ----as often stated in the islamo nazi literature "only"
7 % of the land ----also by purchase. As to amount of actually OWNED land----
by purchase----it was the jews who OWNED the most----Arabs OWNED almost none.
It is not clear to me how much of North America was "OWNED" by the original 13
colonies in Colonial america but islamo nazi propaganda is dependent on semantics---
like that of Josef Goebbels
 
They're not ... Muslims have very strict rules about warfare ... Hamas kills more Palestinians than the Israelis ... my Facebook friend from Israel has a boyfriend right now so she's not posting on Facebook ... maybe these new rockets are more accurate ... but generally speaking, about half these rockets land in the Gaza Strip ... not Israel ...

Islam doesn't allow the killing of innocent Muslims ...
that is true----muslims are not SUPPOSED to kill other muslims---but they do---
shiites are very commonly murdered in Pakistan for BEING SHIITES which is considered
GUILTY ENOUGH for a sunni pakistani
 
that is true----muslims are not SUPPOSED to kill other muslims---but they do---
shiites are very commonly murdered in Pakistan for BEING SHIITES which is considered
GUILTY ENOUGH for a sunni pakistani

You mean there's crime in Pakistan?

 
a very misleading statement ^^^^ to wit "owned most land of any value"----
what the ARMENIAN CHURCH (which can be called "greek orthodox") owned was
land around and part of Jerusalem----and OF COURSE they still do. BY PURCHASE.
What the jews owned was ----as often stated in the islamo nazi literature "only"
7 % of the land ----also by purchase. As to amount of actually OWNED land----
by purchase----it was the jews who OWNED the most----Arabs OWNED almost none.
It is not clear to me how much of North America was "OWNED" by the original 13
colonies in Colonial america but islamo nazi propaganda is dependent on semantics---
like that of Josef Goebbels

The Jews owned 7% of the land in 1948.
 
They're not ... Muslims have very strict rules about warfare ... Hamas kills more Palestinians than the Israelis ... my Facebook friend from Israel has a boyfriend right now so she's not posting on Facebook ... maybe these new rockets are more accurate ... but generally speaking, about half these rockets land in the Gaza Strip ... not Israel ...

Islam doesn't allow the killing of innocent Muslims ...

The rules of warfare are enlightened in the Koran.
 
You mean there's crime in Pakistan?

I was referring specifically to the killing of shiite Muslims in Pakistan.
I had a close "SHIITE" friend long ago---from India. He expressed his
utter disdain for HINDUS-----so I did ask----if you and your family hate hindus
so much why did you not go to Pakistan in 1948-----he gave me the "well we had a house in
india" excuse------but that was a deflection. I later learned (because I have interacted with
lots of people from south east asia during my overly long life) that shiites are
in great danger in Pakistan----they are often WACKED ---especially any of the educated or prominent ones-----like----well yanno DOCTORS. You learned that deflection and
and denial of reality in your extensive sojourns in the tea sip parlors of "arab" lands?
 

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