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Your whole life is I Got Mine, and they were nothing like that. They wouldn't have pissed on you if you were on fire. You wouldn't be worth the effort.He's correct, you aren't. They were elitist liberals, not selfish infants.Our founding fathers would be repulsed by today's libertarians with their look out for yourself and screw everyone else attitude
Right, if government doesn't do it then it doesn't count, exactly the view of the founding fathers. Dimwit...
Selfish infants want to help people with their own money, you being generous want to help people with other people's money. You are full of shit
I am a liberal that is 230 years smarter than the ones who founded the place. They wanted a government that worked for them and so do I. You want to live like it's 1776, and it ain't. Had that been true for them they would have been living like it was 1546, exactly what they did not want. You are a reactionary, a selfish one, and this is not a nation that was founded for your kind, it was founded for mine.Your whole life is I Got Mine, and they were nothing like that. They wouldn't have pissed on you if you were on fire. You wouldn't be worth the effort.He's correct, you aren't. They were elitist liberals, not selfish infants.Our founding fathers would be repulsed by today's libertarians with their look out for yourself and screw everyone else attitude
Right, if government doesn't do it then it doesn't count, exactly the view of the founding fathers. Dimwit...
Selfish infants want to help people with their own money, you being generous want to help people with other people's money. You are full of shit
You're just blowing your typical ignorant crap. You know nothing about the founding fathers, me or even yourself, you don't even know what a liberal is.
The founding fathers did not think charity was the job of government, I do not think charity is the job of government. You do not think charity is your job. And you're a liberal. Right.
I am a liberal that is 230 years smarter than the ones who founded the place. They wanted a government that worked for them and so do I. You want to live like it's 1776, and it ain't. Had that been true for them they would have been living like it was 1546, exactly what they did not want. You are a reactionary, a selfish one, and this is not a nation that was founded for your kind, it was founded for mine.
They were fucking their slaves, so yeah, they were wrong about some things but they were right about one thing, they founded a Liberal nation and if you aren't a liberal then you are un-American, and you are.I am a liberal that is 230 years smarter than the ones who founded the place. They wanted a government that worked for them and so do I. You want to live like it's 1776, and it ain't. Had that been true for them they would have been living like it was 1546, exactly what they did not want. You are a reactionary, a selfish one, and this is not a nation that was founded for your kind, it was founded for mine.
You aren't smarter than a cucumber sandwich. And that in 230 years liberals realized that the founding fathers were wrong on every issue means you are one of them and we are not clearly demonstrates that. Oh, and that being an open minded liberal receptive to new ideas but anyone who disagrees with you on any issue is un-American hammers that home
They were fucking their slaves, so yeah, they were wrong about some things but they were right about one thing, they founded a Liberal nation and if you aren't a liberal then you are un-American, and you are.I am a liberal that is 230 years smarter than the ones who founded the place. They wanted a government that worked for them and so do I. You want to live like it's 1776, and it ain't. Had that been true for them they would have been living like it was 1546, exactly what they did not want. You are a reactionary, a selfish one, and this is not a nation that was founded for your kind, it was founded for mine.
You aren't smarter than a cucumber sandwich. And that in 230 years liberals realized that the founding fathers were wrong on every issue means you are one of them and we are not clearly demonstrates that. Oh, and that being an open minded liberal receptive to new ideas but anyone who disagrees with you on any issue is un-American hammers that home
Then you support the liberal right of muslims to behead you for your suing them to force them to bake you a gay wedding cake?The US is a Liberal Nation. If you aren't liberal then you are un-American. Now you know.
As much as you would like to see it, we're not Greece.
They fought a war for equal representation in that governmentThe US is a Liberal Nation. If you aren't liberal then you are un-American. Now you know.
If you are anti-Federal Republic and anti-Constitution which is the vast majority of libs in both parties, then you are un-American.
Libs today are against and are totally opposite of classical liberal ideology.
Classical liberalism is a political philosophy and ideology belonging to liberalism in which primary emphasis is placed on securing the freedom of the individual by limiting the power of the government.
Complete and utter BS!
That is just the feckless Libertarian attempt to hijack the definition of liberalism.
The Founding Fathers were no different to the liberals of today. They would LOL at Libertarians for being witless impractical fools who don't have a clue as to how to actually run a country.
Did they or did they not fight a war to get away from big overbearing government?
If that was true, they would not have disbanded from the English Government.
They fought a war to get away from huge government controlling them.
They fought a war to realize our independence, to acknowledge the creation of a new Nation, and to establish a Constitutional Republic where citizens are subject solely to the rule of law, not men – as men are incapable of ruling justly, having nothing to do with the 'size' of government, or whether government is subjectively perceived to be 'overbearing.'The US is a Liberal Nation. If you aren't liberal then you are un-American. Now you know.
If you are anti-Federal Republic and anti-Constitution which is the vast majority of libs in both parties, then you are un-American.
Libs today are against and are totally opposite of classical liberal ideology.
Classical liberalism is a political philosophy and ideology belonging to liberalism in which primary emphasis is placed on securing the freedom of the individual by limiting the power of the government.
Complete and utter BS!
That is just the feckless Libertarian attempt to hijack the definition of liberalism.
The Founding Fathers were no different to the liberals of today. They would LOL at Libertarians for being witless impractical fools who don't have a clue as to how to actually run a country.
Did they or did they not fight a war to get away from big overbearing government?
Indeed, the Framing Generation made no mention as to the 'size' of government, or the ridiculous notion of government being 'too big.' They acknowledged and codified the right of the people to challenge government overreach by filing suit in Federal court, where measures found to be repugnant to the Constitution are invalidated, and those measures determined to comport with the Constitution just and proper; that some on the right incorrectly perceive necessary, proper, and Constitutional measures to be 'overbearing' is ridiculous and ignorant.
Yes they did.
The framers of the Constitution granted a few expressed powers to the national government, reserving the remainder of powers to the states.
This is being totally ignored today.
You are clueless, as always, and should not be in my country so leave, you aren't needed or wanted here.They were fucking their slaves, so yeah, they were wrong about some things but they were right about one thing, they founded a Liberal nation and if you aren't a liberal then you are un-American, and you are.I am a liberal that is 230 years smarter than the ones who founded the place. They wanted a government that worked for them and so do I. You want to live like it's 1776, and it ain't. Had that been true for them they would have been living like it was 1546, exactly what they did not want. You are a reactionary, a selfish one, and this is not a nation that was founded for your kind, it was founded for mine.
You aren't smarter than a cucumber sandwich. And that in 230 years liberals realized that the founding fathers were wrong on every issue means you are one of them and we are not clearly demonstrates that. Oh, and that being an open minded liberal receptive to new ideas but anyone who disagrees with you on any issue is un-American hammers that home
Yes, but what they meant by "liberal" has zero in common with what you mean by liberal and what you mean by liberal has nothing in common with what the word means
Oh yes, that's exactly what I said, that really nails my point.As much as you would like to see it, we're not Greece.
So we must toss out democracy since that too came from ancient Greece?
Oh yes, that's exactly what I said, that really nails my point.As much as you would like to see it, we're not Greece.
So we must toss out democracy since that too came from ancient Greece?
Gawd, if it weren't for straw man arguments, half the people here wouldn't have anything to say....
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Disparagement of Aristotle.Oh yes, that's exactly what I said, that really nails my point.As much as you would like to see it, we're not Greece.
So we must toss out democracy since that too came from ancient Greece?
Gawd, if it weren't for straw man arguments, half the people here wouldn't have anything to say....
.
Your disparagement of Aristotle was the original strawman. I just exposed it.
They fought a war to realize our independence, to acknowledge the creation of a new Nation, and to establish a Constitutional Republic where citizens are subject solely to the rule of law, not men – as men are incapable of ruling justly, having nothing to do with the 'size' of government, or whether government is subjectively perceived to be 'overbearing.'If you are anti-Federal Republic and anti-Constitution which is the vast majority of libs in both parties, then you are un-American.
Libs today are against and are totally opposite of classical liberal ideology.
Classical liberalism is a political philosophy and ideology belonging to liberalism in which primary emphasis is placed on securing the freedom of the individual by limiting the power of the government.
Complete and utter BS!
That is just the feckless Libertarian attempt to hijack the definition of liberalism.
The Founding Fathers were no different to the liberals of today. They would LOL at Libertarians for being witless impractical fools who don't have a clue as to how to actually run a country.
Did they or did they not fight a war to get away from big overbearing government?
Indeed, the Framing Generation made no mention as to the 'size' of government, or the ridiculous notion of government being 'too big.' They acknowledged and codified the right of the people to challenge government overreach by filing suit in Federal court, where measures found to be repugnant to the Constitution are invalidated, and those measures determined to comport with the Constitution just and proper; that some on the right incorrectly perceive necessary, proper, and Constitutional measures to be 'overbearing' is ridiculous and ignorant.
Yes they did.
The framers of the Constitution granted a few expressed powers to the national government, reserving the remainder of powers to the states.
This is being totally ignored today.
Disparagement of Aristotle.Oh yes, that's exactly what I said, that really nails my point.As much as you would like to see it, we're not Greece.
So we must toss out democracy since that too came from ancient Greece?
Gawd, if it weren't for straw man arguments, half the people here wouldn't have anything to say....
.
Your disparagement of Aristotle was the original strawman. I just exposed it.
Oy.
Impossible to communicate with partisan ideologues, no longer try.
.
They fought a war to realize our independence, to acknowledge the creation of a new Nation, and to establish a Constitutional Republic where citizens are subject solely to the rule of law, not men – as men are incapable of ruling justly, having nothing to do with the 'size' of government, or whether government is subjectively perceived to be 'overbearing.'Complete and utter BS!
That is just the feckless Libertarian attempt to hijack the definition of liberalism.
The Founding Fathers were no different to the liberals of today. They would LOL at Libertarians for being witless impractical fools who don't have a clue as to how to actually run a country.
Did they or did they not fight a war to get away from big overbearing government?
Indeed, the Framing Generation made no mention as to the 'size' of government, or the ridiculous notion of government being 'too big.' They acknowledged and codified the right of the people to challenge government overreach by filing suit in Federal court, where measures found to be repugnant to the Constitution are invalidated, and those measures determined to comport with the Constitution just and proper; that some on the right incorrectly perceive necessary, proper, and Constitutional measures to be 'overbearing' is ridiculous and ignorant.
Yes they did.
The framers of the Constitution granted a few expressed powers to the national government, reserving the remainder of powers to the states.
This is being totally ignored today.
Read the Constitution
You are clueless, as always, and should not be in my country so leave, you aren't needed or wanted here.They were fucking their slaves, so yeah, they were wrong about some things but they were right about one thing, they founded a Liberal nation and if you aren't a liberal then you are un-American, and you are.I am a liberal that is 230 years smarter than the ones who founded the place. They wanted a government that worked for them and so do I. You want to live like it's 1776, and it ain't. Had that been true for them they would have been living like it was 1546, exactly what they did not want. You are a reactionary, a selfish one, and this is not a nation that was founded for your kind, it was founded for mine.
You aren't smarter than a cucumber sandwich. And that in 230 years liberals realized that the founding fathers were wrong on every issue means you are one of them and we are not clearly demonstrates that. Oh, and that being an open minded liberal receptive to new ideas but anyone who disagrees with you on any issue is un-American hammers that home
Yes, but what they meant by "liberal" has zero in common with what you mean by liberal and what you mean by liberal has nothing in common with what the word means
They fought a war for equal representation in that governmentIf you are anti-Federal Republic and anti-Constitution which is the vast majority of libs in both parties, then you are un-American.
Libs today are against and are totally opposite of classical liberal ideology.
Classical liberalism is a political philosophy and ideology belonging to liberalism in which primary emphasis is placed on securing the freedom of the individual by limiting the power of the government.
Complete and utter BS!
That is just the feckless Libertarian attempt to hijack the definition of liberalism.
The Founding Fathers were no different to the liberals of today. They would LOL at Libertarians for being witless impractical fools who don't have a clue as to how to actually run a country.
Did they or did they not fight a war to get away from big overbearing government?
If that was true, they would not have disbanded from the English Government.
They fought a war to get away from huge government controlling them.
No they fought a war because they not represented by the government. All they wanted was representation. They government today is a representative government. Why do you have a problem with the government that the FF's put their lives on the line for?
I would describe it as "something that obviously got under your skin".Disparagement of Aristotle.Oh yes, that's exactly what I said, that really nails my point.As much as you would like to see it, we're not Greece.
So we must toss out democracy since that too came from ancient Greece?
Gawd, if it weren't for straw man arguments, half the people here wouldn't have anything to say....
.
Your disparagement of Aristotle was the original strawman. I just exposed it.
Oy.
Impossible to communicate with partisan ideologues, no longer try.
.
How else would you describe your inane comment?
They fought a war to realize our independence, to acknowledge the creation of a new Nation, and to establish a Constitutional Republic where citizens are subject solely to the rule of law, not men – as men are incapable of ruling justly, having nothing to do with the 'size' of government, or whether government is subjectively perceived to be 'overbearing.'Did they or did they not fight a war to get away from big overbearing government?
Indeed, the Framing Generation made no mention as to the 'size' of government, or the ridiculous notion of government being 'too big.' They acknowledged and codified the right of the people to challenge government overreach by filing suit in Federal court, where measures found to be repugnant to the Constitution are invalidated, and those measures determined to comport with the Constitution just and proper; that some on the right incorrectly perceive necessary, proper, and Constitutional measures to be 'overbearing' is ridiculous and ignorant.
Yes they did.
The framers of the Constitution granted a few expressed powers to the national government, reserving the remainder of powers to the states.
This is being totally ignored today.
Read the Constitution
Onus is on you to prove your bogus allegation.
