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Will private sector unions keep a low profile while public sector unions get the conservative ax? We shall see...
Analysts and activists have focused too narrowly on the effects of unions’ collective bargaining on government policy. It may well be that public-sector unions have achieved more of their goals—increased wages and benefits, more government employment, and more government spending—by their work in the political arena than at the bargaining table. Automatic members and reliable money for political activity are the key advantages that public-sector unions have over most other interest groups, which underscores the importance of the agency shop and the dues checkoff to their ability to defend their interests. Where an agency shop is permitted or compulsory, economist Henry Farber finds, public-sector employees’ earnings are 10 percent higher.[25]
Public-sector unions’ political power rarely leads them to get everything they want—even if they can get a lot.[26] However, they have been highly successful at blocking efforts to reform the way government delivers services.[27] For example, the teachers’ unions have staunchly opposed competition in the form of vouchers and charter schools, transparency, and performance pay, while assiduously protecting underperforming teachers. There is little doubt that these political stances have an impact on government’s effectiveness and efficiency. For example, Stanford University economist Eric Hanushek found that replacing the bottom 5 percent of American teachers with merely average instructors would catapult the United States to the top of the international educational rankings.[28]
Even if agency-shop provisions were eliminated, public employees’ First Amendment rights would remain intact. They could still band together to press for better pay, benefits, and working conditions—as they do in such states as Texas and Virginia. But like other interest groups, they would have to persuade people to join voluntarily and would have to solve the free-rider problem for themselves, rather than counting on the government to do it for them.
To level the playing field between government employee unions and taxpayers, elimination of dues checkoff and the agency shop are possible steps to take. In fact, these may be more politically palatable, and ultimately more effective, avenues of reform than are restrictions on collective bargaining. Eliminating the public-sector union’s money advantage would let workers retain their right to negotiate with their employers but put them on a level playing field in the political arena. It is the way to restore fairness to the process.
Will private sector unions keep a low profile while public sector unions get the conservative ax? We shall see...
Private sector unions aren't payed with taxpayer dollars.
How high do you want your taxes raised to take care of the public sector workers?? How many things are you willing to go without so you can pay higher taxes to take care of said workers??
Do you really want to pay for their sweetheart pensions and benis??
You better get used to the public sector unions being curtailed because I think, after WI, its going to be done all across the country.
Its just to bad we can't do the same with the Gov workers.
The problem, Lefty, isn't what Republican Governors want.
Your problem is that Josephine Sixpack is tired of working her ass off busing tables to overpay her public servants.
The problem, Lefty, isn't what Republican Governors want.
Your problem is that Josephine Sixpack is tired of working her ass off busing tables to overpay her public servants.
They are not overpaid, everyone else is underpaid
Will private sector unions keep a low profile while public sector unions get the conservative ax? We shall see...
Private sector unions aren't payed with taxpayer dollars.
How high do you want your taxes raised to take care of the public sector workers?? How many things are you willing to go without so you can pay higher taxes to take care of said workers??
Do you really want to pay for their sweetheart pensions and benis??
You better get used to the public sector unions being curtailed because I think, after WI, its going to be done all across the country.
Its just to bad we can't do the same with the Gov workers.
If you think that the entire concept of collective bargaining is not under attack then you have not been paying attention. You have only to look at some of the horrible things that happen when people in other countries attempt to unionize the plants our companies sent there to avoid unionization here. These people want sweatshops full of frightened workers and by god they will have them if they have to buy every politician in the republican party.
Will private sector unions keep a low profile while public sector unions get the conservative ax? We shall see...
Private sector unions aren't payed with taxpayer dollars.
How high do you want your taxes raised to take care of the public sector workers?? How many things are you willing to go without so you can pay higher taxes to take care of said workers??
Do you really want to pay for their sweetheart pensions and benis??
You better get used to the public sector unions being curtailed because I think, after WI, its going to be done all across the country.
Its just to bad we can't do the same with the Gov workers.
If you think that the entire concept of collective bargaining is not under attack then you have not been paying attention. You have only to look at some of the horrible things that happen when people in other countries attempt to unionize the plants our companies sent there to avoid unionization here. These people want sweatshops full of frightened workers and by god they will have them if they have to buy every politician in the republican party.
To level the playing field between government employee unions and taxpayers, elimination of dues checkoff and the agency shop are possible steps to take. In fact, these may be more politically palatable, and ultimately more effective, avenues of reform than are restrictions on collective bargaining. Eliminating the public-sector union’s money advantage would let workers retain their right to negotiate with their employers but put them on a level playing field in the political arena. It is the way to restore fairness to the process.
Private sector unions aren't payed with taxpayer dollars.
How high do you want your taxes raised to take care of the public sector workers?? How many things are you willing to go without so you can pay higher taxes to take care of said workers??
Do you really want to pay for their sweetheart pensions and benis??
You better get used to the public sector unions being curtailed because I think, after WI, its going to be done all across the country.
Its just to bad we can't do the same with the Gov workers.
If you think that the entire concept of collective bargaining is not under attack then you have not been paying attention. You have only to look at some of the horrible things that happen when people in other countries attempt to unionize the plants our companies sent there to avoid unionization here. These people want sweatshops full of frightened workers and by god they will have them if they have to buy every politician in the republican party.
Bullcrap, the entire concept of collective bargaining is not under attack. The concept of Public Sector employees forcing taxpayers to pay them more than they are making themselves is. Unions have long used "forced dues collection" to fund their political agenda. This is only about PUBLIC sector unions. Something that should have never existed to begin with. Bad union teachers can't be fired, if anyone questions why our education system costs more than most but turns out mediocre students you only need to look at teachers unions for the answer.
To level the playing field between government employee unions and taxpayers, elimination of dues checkoff and the agency shop are possible steps to take. In fact, these may be more politically palatable, and ultimately more effective, avenues of reform than are restrictions on collective bargaining. Eliminating the public-sector unions money advantage would let workers retain their right to negotiate with their employers but put them on a level playing field in the political arena. It is the way to restore fairness to the process.
If you think that the entire concept of collective bargaining is not under attack then you have not been paying attention. You have only to look at some of the horrible things that happen when people in other countries attempt to unionize the plants our companies sent there to avoid unionization here. These people want sweatshops full of frightened workers and by god they will have them if they have to buy every politician in the republican party.
Bullcrap, the entire concept of collective bargaining is not under attack. The concept of Public Sector employees forcing taxpayers to pay them more than they are making themselves is. Unions have long used "forced dues collection" to fund their political agenda. This is only about PUBLIC sector unions. Something that should have never existed to begin with. Bad union teachers can't be fired, if anyone questions why our education system costs more than most but turns out mediocre students you only need to look at teachers unions for the answer.
To level the playing field between government employee unions and taxpayers, elimination of dues checkoff and the agency shop are possible steps to take. In fact, these may be more politically palatable, and ultimately more effective, avenues of reform than are restrictions on collective bargaining. Eliminating the public-sector unions money advantage would let workers retain their right to negotiate with their employers but put them on a level playing field in the political arena. It is the way to restore fairness to the process.
No. This is just a conservative scheme to make another sector of the American working class poorer,
so that the savings can be transferred to the wealthy.
The assault on unions is basically the assault on the one kind of organization that ban maintain a balance of power between the haves and the have nots.
The corporations are winning the battle and have been for at least the last 40 years.
Much thanks to BOTH PARTIES, I note.
The assault on unions is basically the assault on the one kind of organization that ban maintain a balance of power between the haves and the have nots.
The corporations are winning the battle and have been for at least the last 40 years.
Much thanks to BOTH PARTIES, I note.
Labor has been getting weaker for decades.
Have things gotten better for the average American worker? Are we seeing more job opportunities? More good paying jobs? More prosperity for working/middle class Americans?
No. Of course not. The whole point of union busting and anti-labor efforts is to take money away from working class Americans and re-distribute it to the wealthy.
Bullcrap, the entire concept of collective bargaining is not under attack. The concept of Public Sector employees forcing taxpayers to pay them more than they are making themselves is. Unions have long used "forced dues collection" to fund their political agenda. This is only about PUBLIC sector unions. Something that should have never existed to begin with. Bad union teachers can't be fired, if anyone questions why our education system costs more than most but turns out mediocre students you only need to look at teachers unions for the answer.
No. This is just a conservative scheme to make another sector of the American working class poorer,
so that the savings can be transferred to the wealthy.
Nope, it has nothing to do with "wealthy". Last I checked people that belong to Public Sector Unions didn't work for Corporations or the "wealthy", they work for and are paid by the taxpayer.
The scam of Public Sector Unions is finally showing it's true colors. Public Sector Unions exist to fund the politicians that in turn repay the "favors". Shrinking government and being fiscally responsible will be the demise of those Public Sector Unions because they will no longer be able to "make" the employer deduct and pay those union dues.
No. This is just a conservative scheme to make another sector of the American working class poorer,
so that the savings can be transferred to the wealthy.
Nope, it has nothing to do with "wealthy". Last I checked people that belong to Public Sector Unions didn't work for Corporations or the "wealthy", they work for and are paid by the taxpayer.
The scam of Public Sector Unions is finally showing it's true colors. Public Sector Unions exist to fund the politicians that in turn repay the "favors". Shrinking government and being fiscally responsible will be the demise of those Public Sector Unions because they will no longer be able to "make" the employer deduct and pay those union dues.
And as you rightwing idiots love to remind us, the wealthy pay a higher percentage of the taxes.
What you're not getting is that public sector employees are disproportionately Democrats, so if the GOP can break the public unions and weaken them and their members,
they can weaken the power of the Democratic Party overall, and then ALL of the Republican party's pro-Rich agenda can be advanced more easily.
The assault on unions is basically the assault on the one kind of organization that ban maintain a balance of power between the haves and the have nots.
The corporations are winning the battle and have been for at least the last 40 years.
Much thanks to BOTH PARTIES, I note.
Labor has been getting weaker for decades.
Have things gotten better for the average American worker? Are we seeing more job opportunities? More good paying jobs? More prosperity for working/middle class Americans?
No. Of course not. The whole point of union busting and anti-labor efforts is to take money away from working class Americans and re-distribute it to the wealthy.
You fail to explain this recall was not about unions, rather PUBLIC SECTOR unions. The unions that are funded and exist on the backs of the taxpayer.
Private sector unions remain completely unaffected by any of this.
