MI: Unions praise Whitmer for signing Right to Work repeal, prevailing wage restoration bills

[Lesh]

How does it do that? It passed in Wisconsin 12 years ago, and my union continues to get wage increases.

How’s your membership doing?

 

[80zephyr]

The purpose is to drive non-union labor rates down. Your union likely performs highly skilled work so remains highly competitive.

Non union uses our rates to negotiate their own.

 

[80zephyr]

How’s your membership doing?

Like everyone, we cannot find enough workers.

 

[Grumblenuts]

Non union uses our rates to negotiate their own.

They generally try to while cursing the unions. No collective bargaining agreement means no legal nor meaningful workplace protections. Forklift ran over your foot? Oops! Roofing cart bumped you off a roof? Oops!

 

[80zephyr]

They generally try to while cursing the unions. No collective bargaining agreement means no legal nor meaningful workplace protections. Forklift ran over your foot? Oops! Roofing cart bumped you off a roof? Oops!

Bullshit. OSHA will investigate those accidents, and charge those responsible. Union or non union.

 

[Grumblenuts]

Bullshit. OSHA will investigate those accidents, and charge those responsible. Union or non union.

And?

 

[80zephyr]

And?

So they have legal protections.

 

[initforme]

Labor wages need to go up, not down. That benefits the entire middle class. Why are some of you so against a laborer making a good wage? That's insane. What you want it someone to do a job for cheap. Why? Heck the painters here are charging $70 per hour labor no materials included. I say good for them.

 

[SweetSue92]

Seems about half of mammals "with unique DNA and a heartbeat", including primates, disagree.. and that's killing their born offspring, not just their fetuses. "For convenience"? Ask a lion for its opinion of your ignorant opinion on that.

Why Some Mammals Kill Babies of Their Own Kind

Male mammals that commit infanticide developed the behavior in response to their species' mating style

www.smithsonianmag.com

Abortion in the Natural World: Animals | Crow's Path

It's easy to map our familiar understanding of human behavior onto the natural world, to think that the default pattern for reproduction in other species involves a neat binary of male and female raising offspring in a small family unit. Not even all human cultures fall into this pattern, and it...

crowspath.org

That is the difference, essentially, between you and I.

You think we are akin to lions.

I do not.

The end.

 

[Grumblenuts]

So they have legal protections.

And what does OSHA investigating accidents and charging those responsible actually do for injured or dead worker's loved ones and dependents?
Will an OSHA representative advise them or represent their continued employment interests? Have you ever gone to a meeting or read your contract?

You think we are akin to lions.

I do not.

I think we are like mammals.

You do not.

 

[80zephyr]

And what does OSHA investigating accidents and charging those responsible actually do for injured or dead worker's loved ones and dependents?
Will an OSHA representative advise them or represent their continued employment interests? Have you ever gone to a meeting or read your contract?

I think we are like mammals.

You do not.

They get as much representation as any union worker.

 

[Grumblenuts]

They get as much representation as any union worker.

Didn't think so. {Have you ever gone to a meeting or read your contract?}
That's okay, most union members don't.

 

[80zephyr]

Didn't think so. {Have you ever gone to a meeting or read your contract?}
That's okay, most union members don't.

So OSHA protects union workers better? Nope.

 

[Grumblenuts]

So OSHA protects union workers better? Nope.

Correct.

 

[80zephyr]

Correct.

Lol. You are wrong.

 

[SweetSue92]

And what does OSHA investigating accidents and charging those responsible actually do for injured or dead worker's loved ones and dependents?
Will an OSHA representative advise them or represent their continued employment interests? Have you ever gone to a meeting or read your contract?

I think we are like mammals.

You do not.

So you are recommending that human mothers leave or destroy their infants?

Or you are condoning it?

Well that explains your entire worldview doesn't it? Do you also inspect your fur for insects and other disgusting bits? Monkeys do that

 

[Grumblenuts]

So you are recommending that human mothers leave or destroy their infants?

Or you are condoning it?

Well that explains your entire worldview doesn't it? Do you also inspect your fur for insects and other disgusting bits? Monkeys do that

I was suggesting that, like it or not, you are a mammal. Best get used to it.

 

[SweetSue92]

I was suggesting that, like it or not, you are a mammal. Best get used to it.

Obviously, scientifically. Do you fling your poop like monkeys?

 

[Grumblenuts]

I was suggesting that, like it or not, you are a mammal. Best get used to it.

Obviously, scientifically.

Fine admission. Scientifically:

adverb

1. 1.
   by means of scientific methods and principles.
   "scientifically proven treatments"
   • 
     
2. 2.
   INFORMAL
   in a systematic or methodical manner.
   "everything is planned out scientifically"

Do you prefer looking at things unscientifically or what?