why would anyone want to re elect obama?

[mskafka]

Well, today's insider trading law will certainly tip the scale in the favor of ANY Democrat candidate. Anyone who has even a VERY BASIC understanding of the stock market (that would be me) would see the flagrant bullshit manuever used by our Speaker, to make sure that insider trading continues in congress. It made up my mind, unequivocally, unless by some miracle Ron Paul wins the nomination.

The dems stopped doing insider trading when?

Oh, they haven't stopped it. Pelosi did more than her share. I do have to give Mr. Cantor a hand for being so flagrant about blocking the provision which would have at least slowed some of the intelligence community down. The political intelligence community needs to "be studied more". OMG! He figuratively mooned us, by doing it. Hell, if he were to offer me a job, I wouldn't turn it down. Access to all the information before it hits the ticker? Hell yes!

Chuck Grassley didn't seem too pleased with Mr. Cantor. Really....as far as I am concerned....this was political "smoke and mirrors". Both sides trying to make the other look evil. Term limits in congress, please!

 

[francoHFW]

I'm not the one who can't accept the fact that racism and fame whoring were key components of Obama's victory. This time around, fame whoring won't be quite as strong as most of them are/have come out of the high of the moment and are now experiencing a coyote ugly electoral regrets. Same goes for a lot of the liberal white guilt because they did their part and made P-BO a token black man in the oval office. So that number should drop too. Of course, even the black community's losing some (not much) support for him, but even there, a little is significant for his chance at re-election.

Face it, baring a total GOP pooch screw on who they nominate (aka an obama lite 'moderate') he's one and done.

Seeing as I did not vote for him, I was not involved in fame whoring or white guilt, since I am only part white and have no guilt. He was the man that the people believe was the way out from 8 horrible years under Bush.

which has proven to be 4 years far WORSE than W ever was.

What a pile of Pubcrappe (where the REAL racists are, not just people who point them out- the Pub BS definition)- unfortunately for greedy, mega rich Pubs, most people aren't brainwashed drones... they remember the cronyism, corruption, scandal, and the stupidest wars EVER, and the abyss we faced from Sept 2008 till Obama was inaugarated. Change the channel, Pub dupe. Hoping for your recovery.

 

[Big Fitz]

Well, today's insider trading law will certainly tip the scale in the favor of ANY Democrat candidate. Anyone who has even a VERY BASIC understanding of the stock market (that would be me) would see the flagrant bullshit manuever used by our Speaker, to make sure that insider trading continues in congress. It made up my mind, unequivocally, unless by some miracle Ron Paul wins the nomination.

The dems stopped doing insider trading when?

Oh, they haven't stopped it. Pelosi did more than her share. I do have to give Mr. Cantor a hand for being so flagrant about blocking the provision which would have at least slowed some of the intelligence community down. The political intelligence community needs to "be studied more". OMG! He figuratively mooned us, by doing it. Hell, if he were to offer me a job, I wouldn't turn it down. Access to all the information before it hits the ticker? Hell yes!

Chuck Grassley didn't seem too pleased with Mr. Cantor. Really....as far as I am concerned....this was political "smoke and mirrors". Both sides trying to make the other look evil. Term limits in congress, please!

term limits on the bureaucraps too, please.

 

[mskafka]

The dems stopped doing insider trading when?

Oh, they haven't stopped it. Pelosi did more than her share. I do have to give Mr. Cantor a hand for being so flagrant about blocking the provision which would have at least slowed some of the intelligence community down. The political intelligence community needs to "be studied more". OMG! He figuratively mooned us, by doing it. Hell, if he were to offer me a job, I wouldn't turn it down. Access to all the information before it hits the ticker? Hell yes!

Chuck Grassley didn't seem too pleased with Mr. Cantor. Really....as far as I am concerned....this was political "smoke and mirrors". Both sides trying to make the other look evil. Term limits in congress, please!

term limits on the bureaucraps too, please.

Well, in congress....yes. Both democrats, republicans, socialists, or whatever party you belong to. It seems that the longer that these people stay professionally in office, the less likely they are to possess a conscience.

Wouldn't you like to have information from the Federal Reserve before the economy tanks? In a bear or bull market? Again, I have to give the Speaker kudos for being so obvious with his bullshit. He knows that the big players on Wall Street were winking at him through the TV, and that there are some of us who know better, but are way too poor to do anything about it....but vote. And that was pure bullshit. Any way you slice it.

 

[Big Fitz]

Oh, they haven't stopped it. Pelosi did more than her share. I do have to give Mr. Cantor a hand for being so flagrant about blocking the provision which would have at least slowed some of the intelligence community down. The political intelligence community needs to "be studied more". OMG! He figuratively mooned us, by doing it. Hell, if he were to offer me a job, I wouldn't turn it down. Access to all the information before it hits the ticker? Hell yes!

Chuck Grassley didn't seem too pleased with Mr. Cantor. Really....as far as I am concerned....this was political "smoke and mirrors". Both sides trying to make the other look evil. Term limits in congress, please!

term limits on the bureaucraps too, please.

Well, in congress....yes. Both democrats, republicans, socialists, or whatever party you belong to. It seems that the longer that these people stay professionally in office, the less likely they are to possess a conscience.

Wouldn't you like to have information from the Federal Reserve before the economy tanks? In a bear or bull market? Again, I have to give the Speaker kudos for being so obvious with his bullshit. He knows that the big players on Wall Street were winking at him through the TV, and that there are some of us who know better, but are way too poor to do anything about it....but vote. And that was pure bullshit. Any way you slice it.

the magic number seems to be 12 years. look at the S&L scandal. All save McCain had terms in.

 

[francoHFW]

We have term limits- it's called knowing the facts and voting the BUMS out. Try and remember today's Eric Kantor, Fox/Rush/Pub dupes/ADD haters(racists?/semi-racists?))

 

[mskafka]

term limits on the bureaucraps too, please.

Well, in congress....yes. Both democrats, republicans, socialists, or whatever party you belong to. It seems that the longer that these people stay professionally in office, the less likely they are to possess a conscience.

Wouldn't you like to have information from the Federal Reserve before the economy tanks? In a bear or bull market? Again, I have to give the Speaker kudos for being so obvious with his bullshit. He knows that the big players on Wall Street were winking at him through the TV, and that there are some of us who know better, but are way too poor to do anything about it....but vote. And that was pure bullshit. Any way you slice it.

the magic number seems to be 12 years. look at the S&L scandal. All save McCain had terms in.

Some last so much longer. 20+ years. I would have a heart attack or a stroke. I couldn't handle people up in my business for so long. If you have skeletons, they're coming out. maybe they decide that if their world is going to be available for everyone to see, that they might as well get rich while being humiliated.

Good for Mr. Grassley. Way to stand up to the bossman! Some sources say that the Senate's bill contained the above-mentioned provision. Fox says nothing about it, that I could find. But it did mention Chuck Grassley; and it shows that the man still has some integrity about him.

 

[mskafka]

We have term limits- it's called knowing the facts and voting the BUMS out. Try and remember today's Eric Kantor, Fox/Rush/Pub dupes/ADD haters(racists?/semi-racists?))

That's the problem, franco. So many people vote on guns, God, and gays. While those issues are relatively important, we have MUCH bigger issues right now. You know that, I know that, many people in here know that, but many people out there vote because-"she's hot", "he's hot", "she's pro-life", "he's anti-gay", "he'll let me keep my gun". NOT-"We're about to go to war with Iran, and he seems to have good rapport with Netanyahu." (The IMPORTANT things, ya know.)

 

[Big Fitz]

We have term limits- it's called knowing the facts and voting the BUMS out. Try and remember today's Eric Kantor, Fox/Rush/Pub dupes/ADD haters(racists?/semi-racists?))

Well if people would buy all the food, we wouldn't need 'sell by' dates on all of it to warn us when food is no longer safe. But since it is well known that food past it's 'sell by' date can become rapidly dangerous, it's a law to force the big risks off the shelf.

Same principle applies here. Obama went bad fast. Must be some sort of pinhole leak that spoiled it. Or a mouse. Maybe a mouse got in there.

No politician should be in government for more than 24 years. Bureaucrats should be thrown out at the same time too lest they live all their life thinking they're some sort of protected class of citizen above the law.

 

[thereisnospoon]

We have term limits- it's called knowing the facts and voting the BUMS out. Try and remember today's Eric Kantor, Fox/Rush/Pub dupes/ADD haters(racists?/semi-racists?))

Well if people would buy all the food, we wouldn't need 'sell by' dates on all of it to warn us when food is no longer safe. But since it is well known that food past it's 'sell by' date can become rapidly dangerous, it's a law to force the big risks off the shelf.

Same principle applies here. Obama went bad fast. Must be some sort of pinhole leak that spoiled it. Or a mouse. Maybe a mouse got in there.

No politician should be in government for more than 24 years. Bureaucrats should be thrown out at the same time too lest they live all their life thinking they're some sort of protected class of citizen above the law.

I think 12 is enough.
6 House terms and two Senate terms.
If a person wishes to run again, he or she must sit out 6 years.
Oh, no more pensions for Senators or House Members unless they are hired for federal service and work the time required to be vested in the pension fund.
Limit pay to $100,000 per year. If a person entrusted with the business of the people cannot manage to get by on 100k , they are too stupid to be in office in the first place.

 

[Big Fitz]

We have term limits- it's called knowing the facts and voting the BUMS out. Try and remember today's Eric Kantor, Fox/Rush/Pub dupes/ADD haters(racists?/semi-racists?))

Well if people would buy all the food, we wouldn't need 'sell by' dates on all of it to warn us when food is no longer safe. But since it is well known that food past it's 'sell by' date can become rapidly dangerous, it's a law to force the big risks off the shelf.

Same principle applies here. Obama went bad fast. Must be some sort of pinhole leak that spoiled it. Or a mouse. Maybe a mouse got in there.

No politician should be in government for more than 24 years. Bureaucrats should be thrown out at the same time too lest they live all their life thinking they're some sort of protected class of citizen above the law.

I think 12 is enough.
6 House terms and two Senate terms.
If a person wishes to run again, he or she must sit out 6 years.
Oh, no more pensions for Senators or House Members unless they are hired for federal service and work the time required to be vested in the pension fund.
Limit pay to $100,000 per year. If a person entrusted with the business of the people cannot manage to get by on 100k , they are too stupid to be in office in the first place.

I'm willing to go 24 years total time in government either elected office or bureaucratic employ. If their term takes them over 24, it is their last term and then they're done, returned to live under the laws they helped create or enforce. This gives any politician some time to mature and develop into a statesman if possible. This would be at ALL levels of government. From local to federal. No more alderman to mayor to state rep to state senate to Governor to congressman to senator to president shit.

Oh, and slap a 10 year prohibition to former politicians working in the media, lobbying or legal fields as to help prevent possible corruption and kickbacks.

 

[francoHFW]

Forget term limits- you'd lose the good ones- ZERO years should be the limit for these bought off pubs fer chrissake. And cutting their pay makes it a sport for power mad millionnaires...ay caramba! Change the GD channel= you are just being distracted into voting against YOUR INTERESTS...

PUBS TO SCREW WITH INSIDER ACT: (AND,if you think the best American paper is socialist, CHANG THE GD CHANNEL!!!! ty.

Ban on Insider Trading Faces G.O.P. Revisions
By ROBERT PEAR
Published: February 7, 2012
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House Republicans and their floor leader, Representative Eric Cantor of Virginia, said they would amend the bill, going to the House floor this week, to strengthen it.

But Representative Louise M. Slaughter, Democrat of New York, said, “I think ‘strengthening’ here is a euphemism for ‘weakening.’ ”

And Representative Tim Walz, Democrat of Minnesota, said the bill, to ban insider trading by members of Congress, was being rewritten behind closed doors by House Republican leaders.

“How ironic,” Mr. Walz said. “Insiders now appear to be writing a bill meant to ban insider trading.”

The bill is intended to restore trust in Congress, but Mr. Walz said the revisions could “make the cynicism that’s rampant in America even greater.”

The thrust of the bill, passed in the Senate last week by a vote of 96 to 3, is to prohibit members of Congress from trading stocks and other securities on the basis of confidential information they receive as lawmakers.

An amendment offered by Senator Charles E. Grassley, Republican of Iowa, requires individuals or firms that collect intelligence from political insiders to register as lobbyists do.

At present, Mr. Grassley said, when lawmakers and their aides meet with “political intelligence consultants,” they have no way of knowing if the information they share will be sold to hedge funds, private equity firms or other investors who make a profit on it.

Ms. Slaughter, who introduced insider trading legislation in 2006, said the regulation of political intelligence-gathering was “the most important part of the bill.”

Howard Marlowe, president of the American League of Lobbyists, a professional group, said, “The legislation moved so quickly that we did not have an opportunity to discuss it with Senator Grassley or his staff.”

Under the bill, Mr. Marlowe said, “the definition of political intelligence is very fuzzy.” It includes information derived from contacts with Congress or federal agencies that is “intended for use in analyzing securities or commodities markets, or in informing investment decisions.”

J. Patrick Cave, managing partner of the Cypress Group, which does lobbying and policy research for investors, said: “People are freaking out about the Grassley amendment. For many, it’s new, and it remains rife with loopholes, but it’s a good start, clarifying the law and expanding disclosure requirements to include everyone.”

Mr. Cave and other experts on lobbying said the bill would require companies like Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley and law firms like Patton Boggs to register and disclose the clients for whom they did policy research analyzing developments in Washington.

Michael W. Mayhew, who has analyzed the demand for such services as chairman of Integrity Research Associates in New York, said the global market for political intelligence services exceeded $400 million a year. He estimated that close to 300 companies systematically collected such information.

Under the bill, Mr. Mayhew said, some of the political intelligence coming out of Washington would be classified as “material nonpublic information” and “people who invest on it could go to jail for insider trading.”

In a bulletin sent to clients this week, Covington & Burling, one of the largest law firms in Washington, said the bill could have an immense impact on “the business community.”

“Hedge funds, private equity funds and investment advisers — many of which are not currently registered under the Lobbying Disclosure Act — might now be required either to register or to alter their business practices to avoid the need for registration,” the bulletin said. “If, for example, a hedge fund calls a Congressional committee staffer to gather information about the status of a bill that relates to the fund’s investment decisions, the fund may need to register.”

Robert K. Kelner, chairman of the political law practice group at Covington & Burling, said: “We have been flooded with calls about this legislation. I suspect there is a lot of lobbying to change it.”

Indeed, said Representative Slaughter, critics are “flooding Congress to try to weaken this bill.”

House Republicans said they would add a provision to prohibit members of Congress, their aides and executive branch officials from receiving special access to initial public stock offerings because of their positions.

Republicans call this “the Pelosi provision” because, they say, it was inspired by an investment in 2008 by Representative Nancy Pelosi of California, who was then the speaker and is now the House Democratic leader. An aide to Ms. Pelosi said that neither she nor her husband, Paul F. Pelosi, had received “preferential treatment” when the company, Visa Inc., went public.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/08/u...ngress-faces-gop-revisions-in-house.html?_r=1

 

[Big Fitz]

Forget term limits- you'd lose the good ones- ZERO years should be the limit for these bought off pubs fer chrissake. And cutting their pay makes it a sport for power mad millionnaires...ay caramba! Change the GD channel= you are just being distracted into voting against YOUR INTERESTS...

PUBS TO SCREW WITH INSIDER ACT: (AND,if you think the best American paper is socialist, CHANG THE GD CHANNEL!!!! ty.

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House Republicans and their floor leader, Representative Eric Cantor of Virginia, said they would amend the bill, going to the House floor this week, to strengthen it.

But Representative Louise M. Slaughter, Democrat of New York, said, “I think ‘strengthening’ here is a euphemism for ‘weakening.’ ”

And Representative Tim Walz, Democrat of Minnesota, said the bill, to ban insider trading by members of Congress, was being rewritten behind closed doors by House Republican leaders.

“How ironic,” Mr. Walz said. “Insiders now appear to be writing a bill meant to ban insider trading.”

The bill is intended to restore trust in Congress, but Mr. Walz said the revisions could “make the cynicism that’s rampant in America even greater.”

The thrust of the bill, passed in the Senate last week by a vote of 96 to 3, is to prohibit members of Congress from trading stocks and other securities on the basis of confidential information they receive as lawmakers.

An amendment offered by Senator Charles E. Grassley, Republican of Iowa, requires individuals or firms that collect intelligence from political insiders to register as lobbyists do.

At present, Mr. Grassley said, when lawmakers and their aides meet with “political intelligence consultants,” they have no way of knowing if the information they share will be sold to hedge funds, private equity firms or other investors who make a profit on it.

Ms. Slaughter, who introduced insider trading legislation in 2006, said the regulation of political intelligence-gathering was “the most important part of the bill.”

Howard Marlowe, president of the American League of Lobbyists, a professional group, said, “The legislation moved so quickly that we did not have an opportunity to discuss it with Senator Grassley or his staff.”

Under the bill, Mr. Marlowe said, “the definition of political intelligence is very fuzzy.” It includes information derived from contacts with Congress or federal agencies that is “intended for use in analyzing securities or commodities markets, or in informing investment decisions.”

J. Patrick Cave, managing partner of the Cypress Group, which does lobbying and policy research for investors, said: “People are freaking out about the Grassley amendment. For many, it’s new, and it remains rife with loopholes, but it’s a good start, clarifying the law and expanding disclosure requirements to include everyone.”

Mr. Cave and other experts on lobbying said the bill would require companies like Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley and law firms like Patton Boggs to register and disclose the clients for whom they did policy research analyzing developments in Washington.

Michael W. Mayhew, who has analyzed the demand for such services as chairman of Integrity Research Associates in New York, said the global market for political intelligence services exceeded $400 million a year. He estimated that close to 300 companies systematically collected such information.

Under the bill, Mr. Mayhew said, some of the political intelligence coming out of Washington would be classified as “material nonpublic information” and “people who invest on it could go to jail for insider trading.”

In a bulletin sent to clients this week, Covington & Burling, one of the largest law firms in Washington, said the bill could have an immense impact on “the business community.”

“Hedge funds, private equity funds and investment advisers — many of which are not currently registered under the Lobbying Disclosure Act — might now be required either to register or to alter their business practices to avoid the need for registration,” the bulletin said. “If, for example, a hedge fund calls a Congressional committee staffer to gather information about the status of a bill that relates to the fund’s investment decisions, the fund may need to register.”

Robert K. Kelner, chairman of the political law practice group at Covington & Burling, said: “We have been flooded with calls about this legislation. I suspect there is a lot of lobbying to change it.”

Indeed, said Representative Slaughter, critics are “flooding Congress to try to weaken this bill.”

House Republicans said they would add a provision to prohibit members of Congress, their aides and executive branch officials from receiving special access to initial public stock offerings because of their positions.

Republicans call this “the Pelosi provision” because, they say, it was inspired by an investment in 2008 by Representative Nancy Pelosi of California, who was then the speaker and is now the House Democratic leader. An aide to Ms. Pelosi said that neither she nor her husband, Paul F. Pelosi, had received “preferential treatment” when the company, Visa Inc., went public.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/08/u...ngress-faces-gop-revisions-in-house.html?_r=1

You're about as useful as chicken shit on a pump handle Fucko. If I wanted to read the deranged rantings of the NYTimes, I'd have followed your link instead of having to scroll past your pastejob to ignore it.

 

[francoHFW]

Thank you, ugly 'Merican dittohead/hater/angry white man.. Change the channel. Hoping for your recovery, dupe.

 

[J.E.D]

23 months of WHAT?....Look genius perhaps the Kool-Aid tastes pretty good where you sit, but don't come here with that shit and expect the rest of us to partake.
The DOW?....Now there is a post from a real piece of work. You fucking libs have vilified Wall Street as the evil purveyors of all that ails the Country and now you have the gall to say "The Dow is at a 4 year year high?...Fuck you......
No, fuck you, sir. Fact: The DOW is at a four year high. Sorry to hear that the news bothers you so much.
It doesn't bother me. What does is you as a lib who..oh what's the use. You know you despise those people and what they do.
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You don't get away with that hypocritical horseshit.
It's not hypocritical; it's a fact. And I just did. No you don't. You can insist on a double standard hall pass all you like. Not happening.

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When Obama was crowned elected king, gas was half the price it is now.
Unemployment was under 7%. The US Federal deficit was less than 25% of GDP, Now it's so big it wouldn't fit inside Jupiter.
Under Obama the US housing market has lost about 10 years of equity.
Obama has spent over one trillion dollars with the promise of job creation and to this day cannot account for where the money went.
I'm sorry you're too ignorant to get it. Let me help. Obama is not king; he was elected by the citizens of the US. UE was under 7% in Jan 2009, at the worst time in the recession that Bush handed him, well before Obama's policies were enacted or were able to have an effect on the economy. UE jumped up to 10% and now it's down to 8.3%. 23 straight months of job growth. Facts: they're your friend. Facts are my friend...You ignore them for your own political gain.
Blaming Bush is not permitted. Obama has been in office for three years. 'Nuff said. Take some responsibility for your actions....For once.
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Obama single handedly has signed away over 200,000 jobs and perhaps the potential for hundreds of thousands more in the petroleum industry. He did this to placate the environmentalist camp which is a very important part of the democrat voting base.
Those temporary jobs? Sure thing, pal. Talk to me when Republicans pass Obama's jobs bill. They used to be in favor of infrastructure spending; but much like you, they seem to have a case of Obama Derangement Syndrome.
That jobs bill? Umm why is Obama not pursuing it? Because it is another stimulus bill which we know the first two did not work. Jobs bill. Please. The federal government should stay out of the private sector. You people are just looking for another $500 billion handout.
Infrastructure? The first two stim plans were to fund infrastructure. You know.."shovel ready jobs"....You fucking lefties like lemmings to the cliff bought that nonsense. Your problem.


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Obama....Please. The only thing Barack Hussein Obama cares about is his legacy. How is he going to be remembered.
He'll be remembered for keeping the economy from falling off a cliff; reforming health care; saving GM; ending DADT; ending Bush's war in Iraq; killing Bin Laden; bringing down Ghaddafi; and lots more. I know it bothers you, but I can't do anything about that ..
No it bothers you because you are giving false credit to your messiah. How you do not understand that Obama does everything for political gain is a mystery.

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Once Obama's regime ends he will without delay embark on a new career of speaking engagements netting him millions per year. Of course he will no doubt pen many books about......himself. He will use his race to play the victim card if he loses the 2012 race. I have no doubt in my mind that should he lose in Nov, by January of 2014 Obama will have written a book that will accuse the nation of racism. All because he was not reelected.
Obama had his sights on the White House not to lead the country, but to enrich himself.
Now, go ahead an criticize me. Call me names. Label me a racist. See where it gets you. See how much sleep I lose over your words.
Here's a big old can of "who gives a shit what you have to say".
That's a very nice summary of your incoherent rant. Well done, sir. I won't call you a racist, because you haven't said anything racist; but I do implore you to turn off Fox or Rush, or wherever you're getting the nonsense that you repeat.

Here's a big old can of, "Get. A. Fucking. Clue".
Here's a quarter....Buy yourself a clue.
We're done. No need for you to post what will be an unread reply.
However, as a lib it is part of your very being that you MUST have the last word....Have at it. And please make it a good one. Full of seething hatred.
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My gawd, please learn to use the quote feature. Other than that, my only other advice is to, once again, get a fucking clue. You obviously have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. I give you facts and all you can do is call me a liar. Sorry, pal, that's not debating; that's you folding your arms and stomping your feet. You are right about one thing: we are done. I have no interest in your idiocy.

 

[Big Fitz]

Thank you, ugly 'Merican dittohead/hater/angry white man.. Change the channel. Hoping for your recovery, dupe.

been trying to, but you keep playing.

 

[francoHFW]

Maybe Fox.com forum would be better for you, dittohead.

 

[Big Fitz]

Maybe Fox.com forum would be better for you, dittohead.

Weak. Very weak, Fucko.

 

[percysunshine]

Wasn't the last British battleship sunk in WWII by a Spanish fishing trawler?

 

[francoHFW]

No.