Why isn't prostitution legalized?

[NightFox]

It's a no brainer. I never thought about it but my husband brought this up to me and it makes perfect sense, especially in light of what is already legal in the porn industry

Ask your husband if he'd be okay with a brothel setting up shop in your neighborhood or next to his place of business, not to mention having his taxes increased to pay for the high costs of regulating it and increased costs of policing all the attendant negative consequences.

When it comes to legalized prostitution one of the largest hurdles is the "Yeah fine do it but not in my back yard" syndrome, the same problem that's been faced by adult bookstores and strip clubs only to a more extreme degree.

Someone had mentioned zoning the legality of it. I'm not expert on state law making so I'm not sure what is possible. I would not mind having it near my house or place of work as long as it was discreet. I mean, there are "massage parlors" everywhere.... not any different

It's not just local laws ("zoning") that you have to deal with, it's the State (and in some cases the County) as well, the challenge is that unless you're willing to foot the costs for VERY tight regulatory enforcement (which is expensive) then there is a strong possibility that what you'll end up doing by inviting brothels into your neighborhood is de facto inviting increased crime and blight with it.

It's a risk that so far most States, counties and cities across the country aren't willing to take and the only ones that have (here in Nevada) are very small, remote communities that have come to rely on it to support their tiny local economies and have (over many decades) learned to manage it.

Personally the idea of legalized prostitution doesn't bother me in the least bit, however I don't want to wreck the safety or aesthetics of my community or pay higher taxes to see it happen, so have at it folks, just NOT IN MY BACK YARD.

It's too bad it's not easier to make it legal with exceptions.
Like, you can market/advertise for it via ads, the internet etc., but not "walk the streets" or have buildings which business is ONLY prostitution...

Unfortunately the criminal elements in our society would be all over that in a heart beat (more than they already are), you'd be inviting in crime syndicates running human trafficking, drug sales, money laundering, etc.., etc.., en mass.

I just think if a guy/girl hook up and she wants some cash for her services, and it's done one on one (say, in a bar even) should be OK

Legal prostitution is far more complicated because of all the negative consequences it entails, you don't just have immediate costs (enforcement and policing) there are a whole slew of opportunity costs, for example:
1. Since the prostitutes would require medical certification and regular screenings, you're reducing the supply of health care professionals that can be servicing other patients while they're busy servicing the needs of the prostitution industry.
2. You have to hire a whole bunch of bureaucrats to license, inspect and regulate the industry, which are resources that can't be used to say, educate children or build roads.
3. You have to zone land (and infrastructure) for these businesses which is land and infrastructure that can't be put to other (more productive) uses.

Once you get past the costs and the safety risks, you have to deal with the inevitable "moral majority" protests, not to mention risking your property values and legitimizing prostitution as an acceptable profession for young women (do we really want to do that?).

Where's the upside? I mean beyond giving morons like Matt more than a snowballs chance in hell of actually getting laid without having to risk a solicitation charge......

 

[Windparadox]

[Legal prostitution is far more complicated because of all the negative consequences it entails, you don't just have immediate costs (enforcement and policing) there are a whole slew of opportunity costs, for example:
1. Since the prostitutes would require medical certification and regular screenings, you're reducing the supply of health care professionals that can be servicing other patients while they're busy servicing the needs of the prostitution industry.
2. You have to hire a whole bunch of bureaucrats to license, inspect and regulate the industry, which are resources that can't be used to say, educate children or build roads.
3. You have to zone land (and infrastructure) for these businesses which is land and infrastructure that can't be put to other (more productive) uses.
Once you get past the costs and the safety risks, you have to deal with the inevitable "moral majority" protests, not to mention risking your property values and legitimizing prostitution as an acceptable profession for young women (do we really want to do that?).Where's the upside? I mean beyond giving morons like Matt more than a snowballs chance in hell of actually getting laid without having to risk a solicitation charge......

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As this is just your opinion and you have proven nothing, prostitutes would provide a legal and regulated service which can be taxed....and of course the customers can use them in a safe manner. Win - Win.
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[rightwinger]

I'm thinking of something like an ice cream truck driving up the street ringing its bell

All you have to do is stand at the curb waving your money. Then the truck will stop and give you your treat

 

[Cellblock2429]

I am a liberal and I see a huge revenue the government and business can be earning earning by making Prostitution legalized. I think keeping it illegal is doing more harm then good.

I am a big fan of HBO's 'Cat House' and I think a lot of the problems with prostitution today could be eliminated by legalizing it and allowing brothels. Nevada should not be the only state, but many states should legalize it. Safer environment for the girls, you take the pimps out of it, the girls get tested for diseases.

I also think a lot problems with prostitution could be reduced by allowing more strip clubs, they are safe alternatives for a lot lonely men... and I will admit a lot of truck drivers like to go to strip clubs, I am a truck driver. When men are not given the alternative because there are no strip clubs close by then they resort to more dangerous options. The clubs also give a lot young women great paying jobs and help boost the economy in the cities they are in.

Unfortunately in Republican states the conservatives try their best to discourage strip clubs or put in crazy laws that will make no girls not to work there. 10-foot no-contact rule, no alcohol allowed if girls dance nude, pasties they have to wear so are never truly topless dancing... Crazy Republican laws

/----/ It already is. It's called politics and you don't even have to look hot.

 

[Cellblock2429]

I'm thinking of something like an ice cream truck driving up the street ringing its bell

All you have to do is stand at the curb waving your money. Then the truck will stop and give you your treat

/----/ That's already been done for years. Nothing new
http://nypost.com/2013/05/25/long-islands-hot-dog-hooker-busted-again-for-prostitution-police/
Long Island’s hot-dog hooker busted again for prostitution: police

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

I have no particular dog in this hunt, but I find it odd indeed that the Left on the one hand rant and rave over how women are demeaned by men and relegated to being little more than sex objects, and yet with the other hand endorse all sorts of sexual oddity and immorality, including prostitution, that accomplishes just that very thing.

 

[rightwinger]

I'm thinking of something like an ice cream truck driving up the street ringing its bell

All you have to do is stand at the curb waving your money. Then the truck will stop and give you your treat

/----/ That's already been done for years. Nothing new
http://nypost.com/2013/05/25/long-islands-hot-dog-hooker-busted-again-for-prostitution-police/
Long Island’s hot-dog hooker busted again for prostitution: police

American ingenuity at its finest

Hot dog truck would work great.

 

[rightwinger]

I have no particular dog in this hunt, but I find it odd indeed that the Left on the one hand rant and rave over how women are demeaned by men and relegated to being little more than sex objects, and yet with the other hand endorse all sorts of sexual oddity and immorality, including prostitution, that accomplishes just that very thing.

No harm...no foul

 

[NightFox]

[Legal prostitution is far more complicated because of all the negative consequences it entails, you don't just have immediate costs (enforcement and policing) there are a whole slew of opportunity costs, for example:
1. Since the prostitutes would require medical certification and regular screenings, you're reducing the supply of health care professionals that can be servicing other patients while they're busy servicing the needs of the prostitution industry.
2. You have to hire a whole bunch of bureaucrats to license, inspect and regulate the industry, which are resources that can't be used to say, educate children or build roads.
3. You have to zone land (and infrastructure) for these businesses which is land and infrastructure that can't be put to other (more productive) uses.
Once you get past the costs and the safety risks, you have to deal with the inevitable "moral majority" protests, not to mention risking your property values and legitimizing prostitution as an acceptable profession for young women (do we really want to do that?).Where's the upside? I mean beyond giving morons like Matt more than a snowballs chance in hell of actually getting laid without having to risk a solicitation charge......

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As this is just your opinion and you have proven nothing, prostitutes would provide a legal and regulated service which can be taxed

... where did I dispute that?

The difference between your simplistic attempt at simulating an argument and my argument is that I'm considering the actual and opportunity costs, the barriers to implementation and the socio-economic effects, instead of just taking the kindergartner approach of looking at it like it's a zero calorie, no risk free lunch.

However, as I've already stated in this thread, If you want legalized prostitution in your neighborhood, get to lobbying your state and local governments for it and I wish you the best of luck in your quest, as for myself, there's no upside and plenty of potential downside for me, my family and my community so I'll work to keep it out of my environs until such time as that situation changes.

....and of course the customers can use them in a safe manner. Win - Win.

Define "safe manner".

"TANSTAFL: There ain't no such thing as a free lunch"

 

[rightwinger]

I'd like to see our universities offer degrees in Prostitution

Too many self taught amateurs in the ranks. A woman should have to learn the trade before she can proudly declare ...I am a Prostitute

It is not as easy as it seems and many would flunk out. I imagine there would be a lot of homework and the exams would be brutal

But in the end you can achieve a "Masters in Prostitution" or a "PhD in Prostitution"

 

[danielpalos]

I am a liberal and I see a huge revenue the government and business can be earning earning by making Prostitution legalized. I think keeping it illegal is doing more harm then good.

I am a big fan of HBO's 'Cat House' and I think a lot of the problems with prostitution today could be eliminated by legalizing it and allowing brothels. Nevada should not be the only state, but many states should legalize it. Safer environment for the girls, you take the pimps out of it, the girls get tested for diseases.

I also think a lot problems with prostitution could be reduced by allowing more strip clubs, they are safe alternatives for a lot lonely men... and I will admit a lot of truck drivers like to go to strip clubs, I am a truck driver. When men are not given the alternative because there are no strip clubs close by then they resort to more dangerous options. The clubs also give a lot young women great paying jobs and help boost the economy in the cities they are in.

Unfortunately in Republican states the conservatives try their best to discourage strip clubs or put in crazy laws that will make no girls not to work there. 10-foot no-contact rule, no alcohol allowed if girls dance nude, pasties they have to wear so are never truly topless dancing... Crazy Republican laws

I believe prostitution is a natural right since, since the right wing doesn't believe in equal protection of the law for unemployment compensation on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States.

 

[Votto]

I am a liberal and I see a huge revenue the government and business can be earning earning by making Prostitution legalized. I think keeping it illegal is doing more harm then good.

I am a big fan of HBO's 'Cat House' and I think a lot of the problems with prostitution today could be eliminated by legalizing it and allowing brothels. Nevada should not be the only state, but many states should legalize it. Safer environment for the girls, you take the pimps out of it, the girls get tested for diseases.

I also think a lot problems with prostitution could be reduced by allowing more strip clubs, they are safe alternatives for a lot lonely men... and I will admit a lot of truck drivers like to go to strip clubs, I am a truck driver. When men are not given the alternative because there are no strip clubs close by then they resort to more dangerous options. The clubs also give a lot young women great paying jobs and help boost the economy in the cities they are in.

Unfortunately in Republican states the conservatives try their best to discourage strip clubs or put in crazy laws that will make no girls not to work there. 10-foot no-contact rule, no alcohol allowed if girls dance nude, pasties they have to wear so are never truly topless dancing... Crazy Republican laws

Prostitution is legal, it's called porn.

Those wanting to hire a prostitute need only to film it then poof, it becomes art and everyone is happy.

 

[danielpalos]

Recourse to an (basic) income would help women stay out of prostitution if they can't make good money at it.

Former Secretary Clinton chose to not pander to the female constituency.

 

[Votto]

I'd like to see our universities offer degrees in Prostitution

Too many self taught amateurs in the ranks. A woman should have to learn the trade before she can proudly declare ...I am a Prostitute

It is not as easy as it seems and many would flunk out. I imagine there would be a lot of homework and the exams would be brutal

But in the end you can achieve a "Masters in Prostitution" or a "PhD in Prostitution"

Yes, they have a prostitution degree as well. It's called a law degree.

 

[Windparadox]

<snip><unsnip>Define "safe manner"."TANSTAFL: There ain't no such thing as a free lunch"

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Again, your opinions, this time using cliches. You are welcome to them.

 

[rightwinger]

I'd like to see our universities offer degrees in Prostitution

Too many self taught amateurs in the ranks. A woman should have to learn the trade before she can proudly declare ...I am a Prostitute

It is not as easy as it seems and many would flunk out. I imagine there would be a lot of homework and the exams would be brutal

But in the end you can achieve a "Masters in Prostitution" or a "PhD in Prostitution"

Yes, they have a prostitution degree as well. It's called a law degree.

Prostitution is the worlds oldest profession. They deserve to be threated as professionals

 

[Windparadox]

Prostitution is legal, it's called porn.Those wanting to hire a prostitute need only to film it then poof, it becomes art and everyone is happy.

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To that extent, they say masturbation is sex with the one you love most. Can't tax it though.

 

[danielpalos]

I'd like to see our universities offer degrees in Prostitution

Too many self taught amateurs in the ranks. A woman should have to learn the trade before she can proudly declare ...I am a Prostitute

It is not as easy as it seems and many would flunk out. I imagine there would be a lot of homework and the exams would be brutal

But in the end you can achieve a "Masters in Prostitution" or a "PhD in Prostitution"

Yes, they have a prostitution degree as well. It's called a law degree.

Prostitution is the worlds oldest profession. They deserve to be threated as professionals

I agree. I prefer professional women to amateur women, every day of the week.

 

[NightFox]

<snip><unsnip>Define "safe manner"."TANSTAFL: There ain't no such thing as a free lunch"

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Again, your opinions, this time using cliches. You are welcome to them.

*YAWN* wake me up when you formulate something resembling an actual reason and evidence based argument because so far all you've offered up is evidence that you're both intellectually lazy and don't understand what TANSTAFL means.

 

[danielpalos]

any women want to, porn around with me?