Why do the Left Wing Liberals Hate Corporations?

Which proves that Reagan was right when he said "Outside of its legitimate function, government does nothing as well or as economically as the private sector."

That senile tool of the plutocrats neglected to mention "The all encompassing goal of private enterprise is to increase the bottom line, with absolutely no regard for the consequences to the workers or society in general, and totally devoid of any long term or strategic planning."

Comprende, brainiac?
 
Well Toro, if a man is willing to walk the walk, unless you were there beside him, you are merely voicing your opinion. He may be right not arrogant or a douchebag.

I know enough about the Canadian and American judicial systems to know that an American spending a few days in Canada then stating that the Canadian judicial system is not as evolved in the rule of law is arrogance. Period. Protesters were chaining themselves to trees as acts of civil disobedience. They had no legal basis to stop logging. None. And more than one judge ordered that the logging be continued.

But one thing I do know is that good economic policy is also good environmental policy. Because if it isn't sound environmental policy, someone is getting rich by making someone else poor.

I also know that what environmentalists call "good" environmental policy is often bad economic policy.

"We didn't inherit this land from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children."
Lakota Sioux Proverb


Robert F. Kennedy Jr. graduated from Harvard College in 1976 with a Bachelor of Arts in American history and literature (including a year of study at the London School of Economics) and obtained a Juris Doctor degree from the University of Virginia School of Law. He also obtained an LL.M. (Master of Laws) from the Pace University School of Law.

I think RFK's knowledge of law is pretty sound. He is an environmental lawyer with a highly evolved understanding of the relationship between economics and environmental law. It's ironic you call him arrogant, because I would call him the most anti-arrogance advocate I have ever heard, if you understand real arrogance.

Real arrogance, the most self-centered, destructive and egregious kind is practiced by people who believe they are so important and unique in the history of mankind, and their economic activity is so special that they have the right to plunder and steal from not only their contemporaries, but from the generations that haven't been born yet.

When you say 'what environmentalists call "good" environmental policy is often bad economic policy', that is a falsehood. It is either an arrogance or an ignorance that allows someone to evade the discipline of the free market. Good economic policy is ALWAYS good environmental policy, unless there are faulty calculations, a devaluation of resources or a disregard for the impact on others.

Every economic issue that involves the environment involves the 'commons'. Going back to the Magna Carta, the commons, or public trust has been deemed public property, not private property...it belongs to all of us. Everyone has a right to use them. Nobody has a right to abuse them. Nobody has a right to use them in a way that will diminish or injure their use and enjoyment by others, either living or not even born yet.
 
The addition of the word 'hate' to the rhetorical lexicon is one of those marvelous accomplishments of right wing think tanks, it elucidates nothing but it serves as a wonderful stick to hit any idea that is outside the box of accepted thought.

This video on citizens united demonstrates why some people are critical of corporations.
Democracy after Citizens United | MIT World

Name one thing invented by Government that helped boost our GDP or created an industry and thus jobs.

Nuclear power, Interstate highway system, and the Internet are a few- but it isn't government as person, or as demonized object as most on the right use the word. Government - all of us - the combined efforts of its citizens actually supported, and thus in a real sense invented much of our technology for better or worse.

"In 1929 Federal, state, and municipal governments accounted for about 8 percent of all economic activity in the United States. By the 1960s that figure was between 20 and 25 percent, far exceeding that in India, a socialist country. The National Science Foundation reckoned that federal funds were paying for 90 percent of research in aviation and space travel, 65 percent in electrical and electronic devices, 42 percent in Scientific Instruments, 31 percent in machinery, 28 percent in metal alloys, 24 percent in automobiles, and 20 percent in chemicals." William Manchester "The Glory and the Dream"

It's amazing how brainwashed people are to think the government doesn't do anything for us.

Ronald Reagan started this crap, and he is burning in hell right now for it.
 
Which proves that Reagan was right when he said "Outside of its legitimate function, government does nothing as well or as economically as the private sector."

That senile tool of the plutocrats neglected to mention "The all encompassing goal of private enterprise is to increase the bottom line, with absolutely no regard for the consequences to the workers or society in general, and totally devoid of any long term or strategic planning."

Comprende, brainiac?

Private enterprise needs a healthy bottom line to exist. Unlike government. Private enterprise needs good, happy, healthy workers, a market to sell goods too and a long term strategic outlook. Of course, it's not easy to have a long term outlook when the government changes the tax code every year, adds new rules and regulations every year and does funny things to the value of the dollar every year.

¿Comprende brainyoulack?
 
The answer isn't higher taxes or lower taxes. The answer is fair taxes.


Please note that how those taxes are spent is the subject of a valid but different debate. Step one is to have 75% or more of Americans believing that they are taxed fairly.



Actually, it is both. Lower and Fair taxes. And much much lower spending and entitlement reform.
 
The answer isn't higher taxes or lower taxes. The answer is fair taxes.


Please note that how those taxes are spent is the subject of a valid but different debate. Step one is to have 75% or more of Americans believing that they are taxed fairly.



Actually, it is both. Lower and Fair taxes. And much much lower spending and entitlement reform.

Yes, and let's start with the military budget.
 
The answer isn't higher taxes or lower taxes. The answer is fair taxes.


Please note that how those taxes are spent is the subject of a valid but different debate. Step one is to have 75% or more of Americans believing that they are taxed fairly.



Actually, it is both. Lower and Fair taxes. And much much lower spending and entitlement reform.

Yes, and let's start with the military budget.

Yes, let's start with the one part of government that begot nearly all the government innovation all you lefties were just bragging about.

:eusa_whistle:
 
The answer isn't higher taxes or lower taxes. The answer is fair taxes.


Please note that how those taxes are spent is the subject of a valid but different debate. Step one is to have 75% or more of Americans believing that they are taxed fairly.



Actually, it is both. Lower and Fair taxes. And much much lower spending and entitlement reform.

Yes, and let's start with the military budget.


I have no issue with cutting back military spending. So try again, bub.
 
Actually, it is both. Lower and Fair taxes. And much much lower spending and entitlement reform.

Yes, and let's start with the military budget.

Yes, let's start with the one part of government that begot nearly all the government innovation all you lefties were just bragging about.

:eusa_whistle:


Actually, most of that innovation was actually performed in the private sector. What we will NEVER know is how much innovation never took place due to the diversion of resources from the private sector into wasteful government programs. But at least the military purchases do consist of some reasonable innovation - much better than handing out bail outs, subsidies, and bloated entitlements.
 
Actually, it is both. Lower and Fair taxes. And much much lower spending and entitlement reform.

Yes, and let's start with the military budget.

Yes, let's start with the one part of government that begot nearly all the government innovation all you lefties were just bragging about.

:eusa_whistle:

Yup... one of these leftist nitwits even bragged that the gubmint actually invented "tang".

Wrong, but even worse... that's an accomplishment?
 
Yes, and let's start with the military budget.

Yes, let's start with the one part of government that begot nearly all the government innovation all you lefties were just bragging about.

:eusa_whistle:

Yup... one of these leftist nitwits even bragged that the gubmint actually invented "tang".

Wrong, but even worse... that's an accomplishment?


Hey, poor college students every where use TANG to make fake screw drivers with cheap vodka. Don't knock it if you haven't tried it.
 
Yes, and let's start with the military budget.

Yes, let's start with the one part of government that begot nearly all the government innovation all you lefties were just bragging about.

:eusa_whistle:


Actually, most of that innovation was actually performed in the private sector. What we will NEVER know is how much innovation never took place due to the diversion of resources from the private sector into wasteful government programs. But at least the military purchases do consist of some reasonable innovation - much better than handing out bail outs, subsidies, and bloated entitlements.

I tend to agree. But I'm granting the heavily subsidized "private" sector for military, planes, missiles, rockets etc can count as a government "win" in the context of the thread.

I also agree there is plenty of fat to trim from the military budget. There is waste and fraud everywhere there is government and in this economy, there are no sacred cows. Unless, (and I assume it exist) there is some kind of cow export subsidy to India somewhere in the department of agriculture. (sigh)
 
Yes, and let's start with the military budget.

Yes, let's start with the one part of government that begot nearly all the government innovation all you lefties were just bragging about.

:eusa_whistle:

Yup... one of these leftist nitwits even bragged that the gubmint actually invented "tang".

Wrong, but even worse... that's an accomplishment?

Why does that crazy rumor persist?!?!

Sadly, on a related note, I've had to alert the mods to this post, un-friend you and put you on ignore for life for questioning the accomplishment status of Tang. Tah tah forever. :tongue:
 
Yes, and let's start with the military budget.

Yes, let's start with the one part of government that begot nearly all the government innovation all you lefties were just bragging about.

:eusa_whistle:
of course
they never talk about where the real waste is
Do you mean the waste and fraud in the US military/security complex?

The $1.1 trillion that the Pentagon, CIA and Homeland Security budgets will generate for rich shareholders of US defense contractors?

The source of a perpetual US budget deficit is driven by the military/security complex's desire for massive profits and isn't even on Republican OR Democratic tables for discussion.
 
Yes, let's start with the one part of government that begot nearly all the government innovation all you lefties were just bragging about.

:eusa_whistle:

Yup... one of these leftist nitwits even bragged that the gubmint actually invented "tang".

Wrong, but even worse... that's an accomplishment?


Hey, poor college students every where use TANG to make fake screw drivers with cheap vodka. Don't knock it if you haven't tried it.

Does General Mills even make Tang anymore? As for cheap Vodka, I've been a Ketel One guy for a while, but I found Sobieski... half the price and every bit as good.
 
Yes, let's start with the one part of government that begot nearly all the government innovation all you lefties were just bragging about.

:eusa_whistle:

Yup... one of these leftist nitwits even bragged that the gubmint actually invented "tang".

Wrong, but even worse... that's an accomplishment?

Why does that crazy rumor persist?!?!

Sadly, on a related note, I've had to alert the mods to this post, un-friend you and put you on ignore for life for questioning the accomplishment status of Tang. Tah tah forever. :tongue:

:razz:
 
Yup... one of these leftist nitwits even bragged that the gubmint actually invented "tang".

Wrong, but even worse... that's an accomplishment?


Hey, poor college students every where use TANG to make fake screw drivers with cheap vodka. Don't knock it if you haven't tried it.

Does General Mills even make Tang anymore? As for cheap Vodka, I've been a Ketel One guy for a while, but I found Sobieski... half the price and every bit as good.


I don't know. But Tang Screwdrivers with SPACE FOOD STICKS would be a perfect meal.

[ame]http://www.amazon.com/Funkyfoodshops-Space-Sampler-Astronaut-Sticks/dp/B000JUK4OS/ref=wl_mb_hu_m_T2_4_dp[/ame]


The bundle even includes ASTRONAUT ICE CREAM!


And Tang is also available on Amazon! $23.41 for 2 - 72 ounce containers!

[ame]http://www.amazon.com/Tang-Orange-Powdered-72-Ounce-Canister/dp/B002WWNLB4/ref=sr_1_1?s=grocery&ie=UTF8&qid=1298224784&sr=1-1[/ame]
 
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Becuase of their disproportinate influence on our govt thru lobbyists?

I do not hate corporations, Heck I owned a couple. I just think they have to much gotv influence and do not pay their fair share all the time.

And for the past few decades feel that they must continually increase their profit.
Quite often at the expense of US workers thru layoff, pay cuts or offshoring.

^^^^^^^^^^

What he said, minus the "Heck I owned a couple" part.
 

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