Why do the Left Wing Liberals Hate Corporations?

[rhodescholar]

Name one thing invented by Government that helped boost our GDP or created an industry and thus jobs.

Umm the internet? Integrated cirsuits, super glue, Satellites, the list goes on and on.

Without govt funded research we would not have many things we now take for granted.

Quite true but virtually all of those advances and many more were less the result of grants than DARPA prize money. Government rewarded research is much more effective than government funded research.

NASA created tons of products private corporations made industries out of.

 

[Synthaholic]

Why do the Left Wing Liberals Hate Corporations?

We don't hate corporations. We hate corporations that run amok, with no constraints, no rules, no regulations.

Big difference.

In other words, You want to control and own them yourselves, like the madman Obama, so you can make up the rules and regulations as you see fit? ~BH

No, that would be your words.

Don't ever cure your crazy, BH - it's always good for a chuckle.

 

[Synthaholic]

Name one thing invented by Government that helped boost our GDP or created an industry and thus jobs.

NASA, dope.

 

[Synthaholic]

Such depth and scope exhibited in your counterpoint... did you sweep your wife off her feet with the line 'nice tooth' at the possum dinner?

There is no counter point necessary, thats all it deserves, since anyone un-clever enough to use Robert Kennedy to front a point for him doesn't have much of an argument.


Robert Kennedy has absolutely nothing going for him but his last name, I know how that must impress you, but then again the feeble minded usually are easily entertained.....




taking shit about my wife?....classy, and bravely spoken from behind a keyboard as an anonymous poster, your parents taught you well I see.

'Nice tooth' is a joke you obtuse moron. So please dissect Bobby's speech and tell me where is is wrong.

Obviously he cannot, or he would have, instead of attacking the messenger(s).

Just another case of wingnuts being able to dish out insults while being offended when they get one in return.

 

[Trajan]

There is no counter point necessary, thats all it deserves, since anyone un-clever enough to use Robert Kennedy to front a point for him doesn't have much of an argument.


Robert Kennedy has absolutely nothing going for him but his last name, I know how that must impress you, but then again the feeble minded usually are easily entertained.....




taking shit about my wife?....classy, and bravely spoken from behind a keyboard as an anonymous poster, your parents taught you well I see.

'Nice tooth' is a joke you obtuse moron. So please dissect Bobby's speech and tell me where is is wrong.

Obviously he cannot, or he would have, instead of attacking the messenger(s).

Just another case of wingnuts being able to dish out insults while being offended when they get one in return.

you've astounded me, you're a bigger idiot than I had thought you were...well done...

 

[Rozman]

Because Corporations provide jobs and produce products or services.These jobs provide a family with a salary and benefits.The employees get a salary and in turn get taxed and that revenue goes to the Federal and local government.The Libs don't like the private sector because they don't like the people who produce things in this country.People who produce get rewarded and make more money and have more freedom to do things.

The Libs want unions where an employee gets locked into a salary level where they all make the same money.The few who produce carry the load for the rest that don't but get to keep their job because the union will protect the slackers.They all make the same so they are controlled and don't have the freedom of those who produce in the private sector.

Jealousy is probably at the root of the hatred.

 

[Ravi]

My guess would be because the government tends to give corporations the same rights, and sometimes more rights, as individuals and that is perceived as un-American.

 

[Toro]

Well Toro, if a man is willing to walk the walk, unless you were there beside him, you are merely voicing your opinion. He may be right not arrogant or a douchebag.

I know enough about the Canadian and American judicial systems to know that an American spending a few days in Canada then stating that the Canadian judicial system is not as evolved in the rule of law is arrogance. Period. Protesters were chaining themselves to trees as acts of civil disobedience. They had no legal basis to stop logging. None. And more than one judge ordered that the logging be continued.

But one thing I do know is that good economic policy is also good environmental policy. Because if it isn't sound environmental policy, someone is getting rich by making someone else poor.

I also know that what environmentalists call "good" environmental policy is often bad economic policy.

 

[georgephillip]

Why?

Corporations are the greatest drivers of wealth creation in the history of mankind.

Wealth that gets concentrated in fewer and fewer hands with each passing generation.

Just a convenient (corporate) coincidence?

 

[AVG-JOE]

Why?

Corporations are the greatest drivers of wealth creation in the history of mankind.

Hmm, maybe because we are not concerned with great wealth, but instead with clean water in the gulf of Mexico, noncontaminated drinking water in Texas, seals running on the Alaska ice, meat without dieseases, clean air for our children's lungs, a clean river, and rain without acid, our children at the dinner table and not laying at Arlington cemetary, less taxes, more benefits, and more secure employment with living wages. That is kind of a generalization and not even all core items.

And corporations are all you say they are. But they are NOT love, caring, birth or children, warmth or hugs, or any human value. You can pull wealth out of your pocket, but you can't pull a clean river or a smiling face on the end of a fishing pole from there. You go get your wealth. I'll stay here and get a hug.

LMAO!

Get out the violins, tissues, and cry me a fuckin' river!

Yep, lifes just rainbows, unicorns, peace signs, bongs, roach clips, tie dyed t-shirts, Jerry Garcia, pretty flowers, yellow brick roads, partridge family buses, birkenstocks, dirty hair, crusty toes and, Barack Obama farts rose scented fairy dust and shits ribbons of lilac scented rainbows.

Liberals are friggin' NUTS!

Liberals aren't nuts. They just prioritize their lives to include a little fun in the sun. How is it sleeping with your bank statement?

 

[rightwinger]

The Supreme Court has ruled that Corporations should be treated as individuals they should be taxed like any individuals and receive no additional breaks

 

[AVG-JOE]

It all boils down to fair taxes. If you believe that the tax code is just fine the way it is and everyone seems to be paying their fair share for the infrastructure used to create the cash flow that they enjoy, then shout your conservative, status quo maintaining message from the roof tops.

If, on the other hand, you believe that the tax code is a complicated bitch that favors those who can afford lawyers and accountants and really favors those who have generous campaign contribution lists and taxes are not being collected fairly, you may be in favor of a change.

Hell, I'd like to see the tax code changed just because supporting a multi-billion dollar per year industry in this nation to do the fucking yearly paperwork it takes to work here makes us look really stupid to the other kids on the playground.

Remove the complexity. Remove all hints at national favoring one industry or business over another and this conversation is over.

The answer isn't higher taxes or lower taxes. The answer is fair taxes.


Please note that how those taxes are spent is the subject of a valid but different debate. Step one is to have 75% or more of Americans believing that they are taxed fairly.

 

[midcan5]

The addition of the word 'hate' to the rhetorical lexicon is one of those marvelous accomplishments of right wing think tanks, it elucidates nothing but it serves as a wonderful stick to hit any idea that is outside the box of accepted thought.

This video on citizens united demonstrates why some people are critical of corporations.
Democracy after Citizens United | MIT World

Name one thing invented by Government that helped boost our GDP or created an industry and thus jobs.

Nuclear power, Interstate highway system, and the Internet are a few- but it isn't government as person, or as demonized object as most on the right use the word. Government - all of us - the combined efforts of its citizens actually supported, and thus in a real sense invented much of our technology for better or worse.

"In 1929 Federal, state, and municipal governments accounted for about 8 percent of all economic activity in the United States. By the 1960s that figure was between 20 and 25 percent, far exceeding that in India, a socialist country. The National Science Foundation reckoned that federal funds were paying for 90 percent of research in aviation and space travel, 65 percent in electrical and electronic devices, 42 percent in Scientific Instruments, 31 percent in machinery, 28 percent in metal alloys, 24 percent in automobiles, and 20 percent in chemicals." William Manchester "The Glory and the Dream"

 

[Oddball]

The addition of the word 'hate' to the rhetorical lexicon is one of those marvelous accomplishments of right wing think tanks, it elucidates nothing but it serves as a wonderful stick to hit any idea that is outside the box of accepted thought.

God, are you an insolent windbag.

What is it that progressive authoritarian dickweeds like you accuse the likes of Beck and Limbaugh of spreading on their daily radio programs?...Hate talk.

 

[Oddball]

The Supreme Court has ruled that Corporations should be treated as individuals they should be taxed like any individuals and receive no additional breaks

Wrong.

They ruled that they should be treated as "persons"....A legal distinction that seems to have flown over your head.

 

[rdean]

Corporations want fewer laws regarding clean air, clean water and safety.

We know as air and water quality decrease, birth defects increase.

We know as safety regulations are removed, more people are maimed.

So you could say, "Republicans support birth defects". And, "Republicans support injury".

We already know they want to phase out support and health care for poor children. Is there a "theme" here?

Yeah, you're a fucking moron. But then you are rdean... king of all morons.

Don't hate the messenger, hate the message. I notice you couldn't point out a single misconception.

 

[Trajan]

Well Toro, if a man is willing to walk the walk, unless you were there beside him, you are merely voicing your opinion. He may be right not arrogant or a douchebag.

I know enough about the Canadian and American judicial systems to know that an American spending a few days in Canada then stating that the Canadian judicial system is not as evolved in the rule of law is arrogance. Period. Protesters were chaining themselves to trees as acts of civil disobedience. They had no legal basis to stop logging. None. And more than one judge ordered that the logging be continued.

But one thing I do know is that good economic policy is also good environmental policy. Because if it isn't sound environmental policy, someone is getting rich by making someone else poor.

I also know that what environmentalists call "good" environmental policy is often bad economic policy.

If I may;

anyone who really knows anything about mr. Kennedy knows that hes one of these faux intellectual dilettantes, exactly the kind that can do harm because his name, and name only, NOT expertise seems to carry weight , even in the face of his vividly dishonest assertions ala the Thimerosal issue in particular.

 

[georgephillip]

The addition of the word 'hate' to the rhetorical lexicon is one of those marvelous accomplishments of right wing think tanks, it elucidates nothing but it serves as a wonderful stick to hit any idea that is outside the box of accepted thought.

This video on citizens united demonstrates why some people are critical of corporations.
Democracy after Citizens United | MIT World

Name one thing invented by Government that helped boost our GDP or created an industry and thus jobs.

Nuclear power, Interstate highway system, and the Internet are a few- but it isn't government as person, or as demonized object as most on the right use the word. Government - all of us - the combined efforts of its citizens actually supported, and thus in a real sense invented much of our technology for better or worse.

"In 1929 Federal, state, and municipal governments accounted for about 8 percent of all economic activity in the United States. By the 1960s that figure was between 20 and 25 percent, far exceeding that in India, a socialist country. The National Science Foundation reckoned that federal funds were paying for 90 percent of research in aviation and space travel, 65 percent in electrical and electronic devices, 42 percent in Scientific Instruments, 31 percent in machinery, 28 percent in metal alloys, 24 percent in automobiles, and 20 percent in chemicals." William Manchester "The Glory and the Dream"

"Dependency Corruption"

If you believe the framers of the Constitution intended that Congress depend exclusively on its citizens, you might want to consider how citizens have been replaced by funders in today's politics.

"'Congress is mostly responsive to the 99th percentile in terms of income...'

"Congress members spend most of their time raising money, and the dominant givers are special interests, which have now been entirely unleashed by Citizens United."

It's also worth mentioning every single member of Congress is among the richest 1% of Americans. Virtually everyone every member of Congress socializes with is likewise among the 99th percentile of US earners.

Imagine if the US Senate, for example, was apportioned by economic class instead of geography, and the richest 1% of Americans shared a single US Senator?

Democracy after...

 

[JohnnyApplesack]

Name one thing invented by Government that helped boost our GDP or created an industry and thus jobs.

Good gawd you're an idiot.

Ever hear of DARPA? (before you illustrate your gross ignorance further, I suggest you google the org using one of their freakin inventions, stupid).

How about NASA? (before you again make a total jackass outta yourself, ya bimbo, google the technologies they generated and money involved).

How about nuclear energy? Where did that technology come from, dumass?

wow

Freakin idiots.

 

[Ragnar]

I think the point has been well made in this thread that the government has certainly made a legitimate contribution to some fraction of our technological progress. Granted it's a small fraction and is slower and cost more from "Government Inc".

It has not been pointed out strongly enough yet, that the vast majority of government innovation that has taken place, happened while (surprise surprise) the government was fulfilling it's primary obligation to the people. One of it's small handful of legitimate responsibilities even. That is, the national defense. (which includes NASA, especially during the cold war)

Which proves that Reagan was right when he said "Outside of its legitimate function, government does nothing as well or as economically as the private sector."