Why Agnosticism is the right choice.

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    I firmly believe that the values of religious/metaphysical beliefs regarding a specific deity, or deities are unknown. I understand that faith in the unknown of an incoporeal deity is paramount to any metaphysical faith, but frankly there are too many loopholes in religion. I would like to consider myself an Agnostic-Theist in the sense that I do believe that God exist, but the definition of God is unknown. I firmly believe that there is a deity that exist and is above all others in the universe but I do not know, nor can define, what this deity is. i guess you can say like people of religious faith, have a faith-like belief in something unknowable. But I firmly believe Agnosticism is probably the most logical thinking. Monotheism, like atheism is fine but there is no proof for either, just philosophical arguments for proof and disproof.

    No true atheist can prove a negative and neither a theist can prove the existence of an incoporeal deity.
     
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    Believe what ya want to.... I couldn't give two turds.



    Agnostic enough for ya?
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    Maybe without the turds, but you cared enough to respond....Thanks!
     
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    Agnostics believe that, as far as can be judged, all metaphysical claims are unknowable. Theists believe that there is a God that is in control of the everyday operation of the universe. You cannot be both an agnostic and a theist.

    The rest of your post makes as much sense as your claim to be an antagonistic theist, ie, none.
     
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    Quantum Douchebag you idiot, I just defined agnosticism in the first sentence. I also highlighted that I am an agnostic-theist. Are you really that stupid?

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnostic_theism
     
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    Or you could put in the effert and search for God and seek revelation and blessings from His hand.
     
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    If you don't have a definition for the concept you're describing, what does it mean to say you believe it exists?
     
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    The Garden is the Physical Presence and Proof of Gods Existence.
     
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    Yes, you can be an agnostic theist. the two terms are not mutually exclusive, as a/gnosticism refers to knowledge, and a/theism addresses belief, and knowledge is a sub-set of belief. I am an agnostic atheist. To be a gnostic anything is epistemological hubris.
     
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    How does the fact that you created a Wiki Article somehow legitimize your position? If I create a Wiki article that talks about Christian-Satanism, would that somehow negate the point that it is inherently impossible to be both at the same time?
     

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