Follow along with the video below to see how to install our site as a web app on your home screen.
Note: This feature currently requires accessing the site using the built-in Safari browser.
It was an attempt to get the Palestinians to formally agree to permanent military occupation with the permanent presence of Israel occupation troops and agree that Israel would control the land borders, air space and territorial sea forever. There was never any offer to grant sovereignty to the Palestinians.
It was a terrible offer, it would have allowed Israel to occupy Palestine forever with the formal agreement of the Palestinians.
It was an attempt to get the Palestinians to formally agree to permanent military occupation with the permanent presence of Israel occupation troops and agree that Israel would control the land borders, air space and territorial sea forever. There was never any offer to grant sovereignty to the Palestinians.
It was a terrible offer, it would have allowed Israel to occupy Palestine forever with the formal agreement of the Palestinians.
Palestinian Mentality.
Abbas: Give me everything I ask for.
Olmert: Okay, here you go.
Abbas: What a terrible offer!
The Olmert plan gave full sovereignty to Palestine, gave generous and eqaul land swaps, removed Israeli presence from the Jordan valley, reliquished Israel sovereignty over the Temple Mount, gave Palestine half of Jerusalem.
View attachment 114862
Then Israel would roll across the West Bank like it did the rest of Palestine until there was nothing left.What if they stopped all the rhetoric and said enough violence, we want peace.
Originally posted by FY
I read that the night after he met with Olmert, Abbas grabbed a napkin at a cafe to draw out the map of Israel and Palestine that was offered to him.Is this a serious negotiator?
They are if we pay their airfare!It's not a matter of feeling but one of fact.But if the description fits, it is not name calling, it is a statement of fact. How else would one call someone that felt that because of one's religion it was justified to expropriate the inhabitants of a place of a different religion to make room for people of one's own religion?
The Jewish people do not feel that. The Jewish people believe they have a right to return to their homeland. The Jewish people believe they have a right to self-determination in their ancestral lands. Now, you may think that we are wrong about that, and that's fine. But you don't get to decide what we "feel" or what our narrative is.
In no sense are Ukrainian Jews returning to a homeland in the Middle East which they have never been to before.
Palestinian blood.
Of course we did; we took it off the Ottomans and instead of giving it to the Palestinians like we declared we would, we kept it for ourselves and called it a "mandate".
Challenger at the core of his portion of the narrative, will give you the conspiracy theory that the world is controlled by Jews.
Wait...what? Kindly point out to me where I've said the world is controlled by "Jews"
In the Levant, just North East of Egypt and South of Lebanon and Syria and to the West of Jordan, no need to thank me.Are you sure? Have you tried to immigrate to Palestine?
Please tell us where this actual country of Palestine is.
For the same reason native americans continued to fight the white invaders against all odds well into the 20th century when the last bands of renegade apache warriors finally surrendered to the US army.
For the same reason native americans continued to fight the white invaders against all odds well into the 20th century when the last bands of renegade apache warriors finally surrendered to the US army.
Wait, well into the 20th century? That would imply at the earliest 1960 or 1970. I thought Geronimo surrendered in 1886.
March 20–23, 1923, Posey War in Utah between Ute and Paiute natives against Mormon colonists.
In 1924, both the Renegade period and the Apache Wars, which had begun decades earlier, ended and brought the American Indian Wars to a close.
American Indian Wars - Wikipedia
Palestinian blood.
Please describe where this country of Palestine ever existed, with it's own language, currency, etc. and therefore what would qualify as "Palestinian blood" you mother fucking idiot dimwit trog.
p.s. Only threw in the name calling because you seem to think it's quite OK and therefore a language you will understand.
Dirtbags Became DuststormsIt was a Jewish synagogue (notice the dome and the link / information posted about early synagogue structures and domes) which the Romans later turned into a cathedral and later on when the Muslims came in and took it over it was turned it into a Mosque. Is there any land, any building, anything the Moslems didn't steal from other people by conquest or terrorism? Pakistan was carved out of India too. Mohammad was born in 570 A.D. so look sometime before 600 A.D. for who the original occupants were of lands, etc. As for the Jews? They were in Israel thousands of years before Mohammad was even a twinkle in his mothers eye and afterward as well. AND THERE WERE NO MOSQUES THEN EITHER.You forgot to mention that the Dome of the Rock was originally a Jewish synagogue and later it was transformed into a Cathedral and then later when the land was conquered and taken over by Muslims it was converted from a church into a Mosque. So as a Mosque, no it didn't stand there for 1300 years. Only in your confused mind.
Well I never mentioned any of the above because there's no evidence that the Dome of the Rock was ever a Jewish synagogue, having been built in 691CE by the Ummayids, that's highly unlikely. Yes, the Crusaders turned it into a church while they ruled Jerusalem and then it was re-converted back into a Mosque when Jerusalem was reconquered ans has remained a mosque ever since. My mind isn't confused, unlike some.
Your Koran identifies Israel as given to the Jews by God. There is no mention of Jerusalem or Palestinians in your Koran. There is no religious connection between Israel and Islam. You've got one Muslim Cleric who even went on record stating there as no religious significance to Muslims connected to Israel or Jerusalem and that the Palestinians were an "Arab Invention." The cat is out of the bag. Could this be the sequel to the tale of the rat in the hat?
Even Medina was Jewish before the predatory desert savages swarmed into it.
Of course we did; we took it off the Ottomans and instead of giving it to the Palestinians like we declared we would, we kept it for ourselves and called it a "mandate".
Then how do you explain splitting more than half of the original mandate off for what is now Jordan?
Challenger at the core of his portion of the narrative, will give you the conspiracy theory that the world is controlled by Jews.
Wait...what? Kindly point out to me where I've said the world is controlled by "Jews"
I am not going to waste my time for you, you know that at the root of your conspiracy theorist type posts, it is always the fault of the Jews. See your post #366.
In the Levant, just North East of Egypt and South of Lebanon and Syria and to the West of Jordan, no need to thank me.Are you sure? Have you tried to immigrate to Palestine?
Please tell us where this actual country of Palestine is.
LOL! Nice dodge. You know what I meant.
For the same reason native americans continued to fight the white invaders against all odds well into the 20th century when the last bands of renegade apache warriors finally surrendered to the US army.
Wait, well into the 20th century? That would imply at the earliest 1960 or 1970. I thought Geronimo surrendered in 1886.
By "well into" I meant the mid-20's, Teddy.
Right or wrong, I think I work miracles here everyday for someone who's not a native speaker.
March 20–23, 1923, Posey War in Utah between Ute and Paiute natives against Mormon colonists.
In 1924, both the Renegade period and the Apache Wars, which had begun decades earlier, ended and brought the American Indian Wars to a close.
American Indian Wars - Wikipedia
Dirtbags Became DuststormsIt was a Jewish synagogue (notice the dome and the link / information posted about early synagogue structures and domes) which the Romans later turned into a cathedral and later on when the Muslims came in and took it over it was turned it into a Mosque. Is there any land, any building, anything the Moslems didn't steal from other people by conquest or terrorism? Pakistan was carved out of India too. Mohammad was born in 570 A.D. so look sometime before 600 A.D. for who the original occupants were of lands, etc. As for the Jews? They were in Israel thousands of years before Mohammad was even a twinkle in his mothers eye and afterward as well. AND THERE WERE NO MOSQUES THEN EITHER.You forgot to mention that the Dome of the Rock was originally a Jewish synagogue and later it was transformed into a Cathedral and then later when the land was conquered and taken over by Muslims it was converted from a church into a Mosque. So as a Mosque, no it didn't stand there for 1300 years. Only in your confused mind.
Well I never mentioned any of the above because there's no evidence that the Dome of the Rock was ever a Jewish synagogue, having been built in 691CE by the Ummayids, that's highly unlikely. Yes, the Crusaders turned it into a church while they ruled Jerusalem and then it was re-converted back into a Mosque when Jerusalem was reconquered ans has remained a mosque ever since. My mind isn't confused, unlike some.
Your Koran identifies Israel as given to the Jews by God. There is no mention of Jerusalem or Palestinians in your Koran. There is no religious connection between Israel and Islam. You've got one Muslim Cleric who even went on record stating there as no religious significance to Muslims connected to Israel or Jerusalem and that the Palestinians were an "Arab Invention." The cat is out of the bag. Could this be the sequel to the tale of the rat in the hat?
Even Medina was Jewish before the predatory desert savages swarmed into it.
So? The Dome of the Rock was never a synagogue.
Transjordania was never part of the mandate.
Transjordania was never part of the mandate.
Really? Explain these:
Those are just the top four. That was easy.
