This is WHY you want the EPA...

[captkaos]

Um still waiting for the reason

The reason is they didn't take the right precautions to prevent the fire.

Yeah, because a business wants to burn down their lively hood. Your hatred for Trump is making you stupid.

Because it's cheaper for a tank or two to burn every once in a while than it is to prevent it.

"Bullfrog" go "croak" on another lilly pad ……… Please? "Stupid" is over there so you won't get lonely!

 

[deanrd]

does the EPA have a magic toxic cloud dispersing raygun that operates on tax dollars somewhere

I live in Houston It doesn't stink as bad here as it does at Border crossings. Crazy leftist Eco terrorists probably started this fire / or it was an equipment malfunction / Or President Trump in his all powerful position ordered it to give the Left something else to whine about! Skies are clear today in Houston! great for disaster watching!
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Years ago I had a roommate who would take the stinkiest paint peeling dumps and leave the door open after he finished. I would tell him your sh!t stinks man. Shut the door. And he would always say “it doesn’t smell that bad“.
And I asked him “have you ever smelled someone else’s sh!t and said wow it doesn’t smell that bad?”

Your post made me think of that when you said Houston doesn’t stink that bad.
How much stink is acceptable to you?

Well if you go by Trump.......

 

[BULLDOG]

does the EPA have a magic toxic cloud dispersing raygun that operates on tax dollars somewhere

I live in Houston It doesn't stink as bad here as it does at Border crossings. Crazy leftist Eco terrorists probably started this fire / or it was an equipment malfunction / Or President Trump in his all powerful position ordered it to give the Left something else to whine about! Skies are clear today in Houston! great for disaster watching!
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Just because you are used to the smell doesn't mean it doesn't stink. Why do you think Pasadena became known as Stinkadena?

 

[jknowgood]

Um still waiting for the reason

The reason is they didn't take the right precautions to prevent the fire.

Yeah, because a business wants to burn down their lively hood. Your hatred for Trump is making you stupid.

Because it's cheaper for a tank or two to burn every once in a while than it is to prevent it.

"Bullfrog" go "croak" on another lilly pad ……… Please? "Stupid" is over there so you won't get lonely!

Lol, he obviously never ran a business. It's cheaper to lose their product instead of trying to prevent from losing it.

 

[BULLDOG]

Um still waiting for the reason

The reason is they didn't take the right precautions to prevent the fire.

Yeah, because a business wants to burn down their lively hood. Your hatred for Trump is making you stupid.

Because it's cheaper for a tank or two to burn every once in a while than it is to prevent it.

"Bullfrog" go "croak" on another lilly pad ……… Please? "Stupid" is over there so you won't get lonely!

Lol, he obviously never ran a business. It's cheaper to lose their product instead of trying to prevent from losing it.

Depends on the cost of preventing the loss. Everything has a cost/benefit analysis.

 

[Thinker101]

And the EPA is remedying this situation in what way?

Thoughtful and smart people say they don’t remedy the situation, they prevent it.

Safety regulations and clean air and clean water are expensive to corporations.

That’s why Republicans like danger, dirty air and dirty water.

Which is weird, because they don’t actually benefit from danger, dirty air and dirty water.

Go figure.

Ok, so what regulations did Trump remove that would have prevented this explosion?

 

[Oddball]

And the EPA is remedying this situation in what way?

Thoughtful and smart people say they don’t remedy the situation, they prevent it.

Safety regulations and clean air and clean water are expensive to corporations.

That’s why Republicans like danger, dirty air and dirty water.

Which is weird, because they don’t actually benefit from danger, dirty air and dirty water.

Go figure.

It really boggles the imagination, how the hell did humanity survive for thousands of years without Obama's EPA regulations?!

So you’re fighting for dirty air and dirty water? Is that your goal, that things should be filthy?

The funny thing is that you're actually stupid enough to believe that.

 

[jknowgood]

The reason is they didn't take the right precautions to prevent the fire.

Yeah, because a business wants to burn down their lively hood. Your hatred for Trump is making you stupid.

Because it's cheaper for a tank or two to burn every once in a while than it is to prevent it.

"Bullfrog" go "croak" on another lilly pad ……… Please? "Stupid" is over there so you won't get lonely!

Lol, he obviously never ran a business. It's cheaper to lose their product instead of trying to prevent from losing it.

Depends on the cost of preventing the loss. Everything has a cost/benefit analysis.

Lol, so it's cheaper to lose your product. Than to keep it, then your not getting enough for your product. So you're saying it's cheaper to let the product burn. Lose the wages for your employees, lose the tanks, pay the clean up charges. Replace or repair the tanks. Pay the wages for that and lose the profits for not producing the product while the repairs or replacement happens. That's what you're saying?

 

[BULLDOG]

Yeah, because a business wants to burn down their lively hood. Your hatred for Trump is making you stupid.

Because it's cheaper for a tank or two to burn every once in a while than it is to prevent it.

"Bullfrog" go "croak" on another lilly pad ……… Please? "Stupid" is over there so you won't get lonely!

Lol, he obviously never ran a business. It's cheaper to lose their product instead of trying to prevent from losing it.

Depends on the cost of preventing the loss. Everything has a cost/benefit analysis.

Lol, so it's cheaper to lose your product. Than to keep it, then your not getting enough for your product. So you're saying it's cheaper to let the product burn. Lose the wages for your employees, lose the tanks, pay the clean up charges. Replace or repair the tanks. Pay the wages for that and lose the profits for not producing the product while the repairs or replacement happens. That's what you're saying?

That wouldn't be so different than Takata knowing their air bags were dangerous, and they would have to pay for a few people who died, but it would cost too much to recall their product, so they did nothing until they were forced to.

 

[jknowgood]

Because it's cheaper for a tank or two to burn every once in a while than it is to prevent it.

"Bullfrog" go "croak" on another lilly pad ……… Please? "Stupid" is over there so you won't get lonely!

Lol, he obviously never ran a business. It's cheaper to lose their product instead of trying to prevent from losing it.

Depends on the cost of preventing the loss. Everything has a cost/benefit analysis.

Lol, so it's cheaper to lose your product. Than to keep it, then your not getting enough for your product. So you're saying it's cheaper to let the product burn. Lose the wages for your employees, lose the tanks, pay the clean up charges. Replace or repair the tanks. Pay the wages for that and lose the profits for not producing the product while the repairs or replacement happens. That's what you're saying?

That wouldn't be so different than Takata knowing their air bags were dangerous, and they would have to pay for a few people who died, but it would cost too much to recall their product, so they did nothing until they were forced to.

How is that working out for them?

 

[bripat9643]

does the EPA have a magic toxic cloud dispersing raygun that operates on tax dollars somewhere

I live in Houston It doesn't stink as bad here as it does at Border crossings. Crazy leftist Eco terrorists probably started this fire / or it was an equipment malfunction / Or President Trump in his all powerful position ordered it to give the Left something else to whine about! Skies are clear today in Houston! great for disaster watching!
.

Years ago I had a roommate who would take the stinkiest paint peeling dumps and leave the door open after he finished. I would tell him your sh!t stinks man. Shut the door. And he would always say “it doesn’t smell that bad“.
And I asked him “have you ever smelled someone else’s sh!t and said wow it doesn’t smell that bad?”

Your post made me think of that when you said Houston doesn’t stink that bad.
How much stink is acceptable to you?

Well if you go by Trump.......

I've worked in Houston for years, and I haven't noticed any "stink."

 

[Flopper]

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Don't know how many are aware of this fire, but it's out of control.

Eight tanks on fire and no way to put it out. More tanks could ignite.

The crime: Intercontinental Terminals is saying it's harmless. Levels are safe.

Anybody stupid enough to believe that shit?

This is why you need to have an EPA, because oil and gas corps are fucking criminals.

Hey Trump, you fucking asshole, THIS is is what an emergency looks like.

Yesterday, from the west side of Houston, the plume is heading west by northwest.

Most people don't understand what the EPA actually does. They assume that it just just creates hardships and adds cost to everything business does. What they really do is save businesses huge amounts of money in lawsuits and clean up costs. They also make it easy for a CEO to sell the board on pollution control.

Most businesses do not take any pleasure in destroying the environment. However, it's nearly impossible for a CEO to sell the board on spending millions of dollars on pollution control which won't add a cent to profits. However, EPA tests, reports, and studies that show the company would be violating the law and damaging the environment without the equipment gets the job done. Those that hope to cripple the EPA are not doing the business community any favors. Businesses may save a few bucks now but they'll pay a lot more latter.

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Don't know how many are aware of this fire, but it's out of control.

Eight tanks on fire and no way to put it out. More tanks could ignite.

The crime: Intercontinental Terminals is saying it's harmless. Levels are safe.

Anybody stupid enough to believe that shit?

This is why you need to have an EPA, because oil and gas corps are fucking criminals.

Hey Trump, you fucking asshole, THIS is is what an emergency looks like.

Yesterday, from the west side of Houston, the plume is heading west by northwest.

What is the "it?" Do you believe flammable substances should be outlawed?

If I am not mistaken, every state has its own EPA that stands alone from the Feds. It is over kill to assume we need a Federal EPA, unless of course they are just passing laws for Federal land in their possession.

ALSO----------> When was this plant built? Its storage units? Was it under Trump? No, not likely. So you understand that any equipment mandated under Obama, Bush, etc, was more than likely, still there since it was already paid for.

Finally, don't let the Left try and sell you a phony bill of goods here-------------->almost EVERY regulation that Trump rescinded, were regulations that had NOT YET taken affect. Now if the OP or anyone else wants to show us a regulation that would have now been in effect that Trump rescinded that would have prevented this, we can then have a conversation; but more than likely, they can't.

All the OP is doing is throwing doggy poo-poo at a wall to see what he can get to stick, basically PROPAGANDIZING and GASLIGHTING you. If you fall for the OPs propaganda, then you are the definition of sheep. It is very easy to do you know, lol. Show you something on fire, blame a Trump policy, and walla…….it is now Trumps fault. It makes no difference that one has NOTHING to do with the other. They do it in reverse also------------>economy picks up, they proclaim it was all Obama after 8 years of misery, and again, walla-------->Trump had nothing to do with something that everyone appreciates.

Notice the inconsistency of the propaganda? Trump removes regulations, but it has nothing to do with the economy, but everything to do with the fire, including the one that happened in California...……..even though his regulatory removals were of those regulations that had NOT YET taken affect. Add to that California and Texas have their own EPA, but the Leftists blame Trump for the bad, and give Obama credit for the good.

Once explained, if you can not see the propagandizing and gaslighting being aimed at you, then you really need to go back to school, and take a critical thinking course.

State Environmental Protection generally does not create the regulations such as determining acceptable amounts of discharge of pollutants, types of testing acceptable, when test should be run, preventive measures, etc. States have a permit to enforce federal environmental laws. Most smaller businesses that operate in a single state will deal directly with the state agency. Companies that operate across state lines or multinationals will often deal directly with the EPA which has 10 regional offices. A state can enact environmental laws that exceed federate requirements but they can't lessen the requirements.

State environmental agencies become the voice of the EPA within their state thus there is no need for federal EPA offices in the states.

Having just state environmental protection would never work because air and water pollution follows no state lines. The polluter may be in one state while damages are in other states. Also, ever state would have to duplicate much of the work of the federal EPA.

 

[Oddball]

State Environmental Protection generally does not create the regulations such as determining acceptable amounts of discharge of pollutants, types of testing acceptable, when test should be run, preventive measures, etc. States have a permit to enforce federal environmental laws. Most smaller businesses that operate in a single state will deal directly with the state agency. Companies that operate across state lines or multinationals will often deal directly with the EPA which has 10 regional offices. A state can enact environmental laws that exceed federate requirements but they can't lessen the requirements.

State environmental agencies become the voice of the EPA within their state thus there is no need for federal EPA offices in the states.

Having just state environmental protection would never work because air and water pollution follows no state lines. The polluter may be in one state while damages are in other states. Also, ever state would have to duplicate much of the work of the federal EPA.

 

[Flopper]

Um still waiting for the reason

The reason is they didn't take the right precautions to prevent the fire.

Yeah, because a business wants to burn down their lively hood. Your hatred for Trump is making you stupid.

Businesses are very reluctant to make large capital expenditures for health and safety or pollution control because most business within 5 to 7 years will be in the hands of new owners, merged, closed, in totally new lines of business or reorganized. So when the CEO is presented with a proposal to spend say 5 million dollars on new fire suppression equipment or pollution control, he asks, can we make it 5 more years on the current equipment and the answer is usually yes. However, when government finds the company in violation of the law, the answer changes rather quickly.

It is not that the CEO wants to harm the business, employees, or the community. He just wants to maximize profits, which is his job. This in a nutshell is the value of regulation. It places safety of the community above the the profits of the business.

 

[Flopper]

The reason is they didn't take the right precautions to prevent the fire.

Yeah, because a business wants to burn down their lively hood. Your hatred for Trump is making you stupid.

Because it's cheaper for a tank or two to burn every once in a while than it is to prevent it.

"Bullfrog" go "croak" on another lilly pad ……… Please? "Stupid" is over there so you won't get lonely!

Lol, he obviously never ran a business. It's cheaper to lose their product instead of trying to prevent from losing it.

Depends on the cost of preventing the loss. Everything has a cost/benefit analysis.

But what value do we place on human lives or the health and safety of the community.

 

[Jitss617]

A few fires but millions of people out of work and put in subsidize housing hmmmm

 

[fncceo]

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Don't know how many are aware of this fire, but it's out of control.

Eight tanks on fire and no way to put it out. More tanks could ignite.

The crime: Intercontinental Terminals is saying it's harmless. Levels are safe.

Anybody stupid enough to believe that shit?

This is why you need to have an EPA, because oil and gas corps are fucking criminals.

Hey Trump, you fucking asshole, THIS is is what an emergency looks like.

Yesterday, from the west side of Houston, the plume is heading west by northwest.

You don't need the EPA. You need the Fire Department.

Very few EPA pencil-pushers would know how to operate a fog nozzle.

 

[Flopper]

A few fires but millions of people out of work and put in subsidize housing hmmmm

The fact is most government regulations work in the interest of employers. It helps keep them out of court, protects their employees and the community. Without regulations, management is put in the position of deciding how much risk are they willing to take with the health, safety, and lives of their employees, customers, and the community in order maximize profits.

 

[fncceo]

they willing to take with health, safety, and lives of their employees, customers, and the community in order maximize profits.

You say that like it's a bad thing.

 

[Jitss617]

A few fires but millions of people out of work and put in subsidize housing hmmmm

The fact is most government regulations work in the interest of employers. It helps keep them out of court, protects their employees and the community. Without regulations, management is put in the position of deciding how much risk are they willing to take with the health, safety, and lives of their employees, customers, and the community in order maximize profits.

Or you can enter at your own risk.. this is America not a communist country