There Goes the Narrative

[Cellblock2429]

/—-/ That’s assuming everyone asked has the education and knowledge of current event s to distinguish between crisis and problem. Remember Appolo “13 Houston we have a crisis” —- or was it a problem?

/—-/ That’s assuming everyone asked has the education and knowledge of current event s to distinguish between crisis and problem. Remember Appolo “13 Houston we have a crisis” —- or was it a problem?

Well, obviously you have that problem.

Houston.........49% say it isn't a crisis.

/----/ Thank you for completely missing my point. Keep up the good work.

Your point was dumb. If you can't readily see the difference in meaning between two different words, then you're truly dumb.
I told you you you couldn't spin it.

/——/ You don’t know what those in the poll thought or understood. What the poll did prove beyond a doubt is only 12% thought there was no problem or crisis.

You're conflating problem and a crisis, dope.
Obviously they are not the same as they are separate choices.

A plurality of those polled saw a crisis.
The majority did not.

I believe it's an ongiong problem that requires a thoughtful and reasoned solution.
It's not a crisis today any more than it was for the last two years.

The shutdown is the crisis.

/----/ "The shutdown is the crisis."
Not for me. It's not even a problem.

 

[Cellblock2429]

/—-/ That’s assuming everyone asked has the education and knowledge of current event s to distinguish between crisis and problem. Remember Appolo “13 Houston we have a crisis” —- or was it a problem?

/—-/ That’s assuming everyone asked has the education and knowledge of current event s to distinguish between crisis and problem. Remember Appolo “13 Houston we have a crisis” —- or was it a problem?

Well, obviously you have that problem.

Houston.........49% say it isn't a crisis.

Hilarious how Trump has you Leftards screaming for open borders, defunding ICE, raising taxes, grabbing guns just as 2020 campaigns kickoff.

No one is "screaming" for that, dope.

Open the govt so we can get this done.

Ok. Yelling.

Derp.......
None of that is the position of the Democratic leadership or the congressional caucus, dope.

Open the govt.

/----/ While the democRATs are partying in Puerto Rico? No way Jose.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Well, obviously you have that problem.

Houston.........49% say it isn't a crisis.

/----/ Thank you for completely missing my point. Keep up the good work.

Your point was dumb. If you can't readily see the difference in meaning between two different words, then you're truly dumb.
I told you you you couldn't spin it.

/——/ You don’t know what those in the poll thought or understood. What the poll did prove beyond a doubt is only 12% thought there was no problem or crisis.

You're conflating problem and a crisis, dope.
Obviously they are not the same as they are separate choices.

A plurality of those polled saw a crisis.
The majority did not.

I believe it's an ongiong problem that requires a thoughtful and reasoned solution.
It's not a crisis today any more than it was for the last two years.

The shutdown is the crisis.

/----/ "The shutdown is the crisis."
Not for me. It's not even a problem.

Wow.......different opinions. What a novel concept.

 

[jknowgood]

Fact is you were okay with it under Obama, but now outraged it happening under Trump which proves you're a hypocrite with no credibility.

Obama never housed 10,000 kids. You’re simply either lying or woefully misinformed. The kids that were stripped from their parents was done out of necessity and not as a deterrent. Again; you’re either lying or woefully misinformed.

But lets say you’re right that Obama did the same thing. I’m sure you can point to YOUR posts praising such inhumanity since you get off on that kind of stuff.

Please link to your posts praising Obama’s treatment of illegal aliens. You can do that; can’t you boy?

Dumbass the pictures were during Obama's presidency. The media put those pictures out trying to make Trump look bad, but when they found out it was during Obama's term. The quickly stopped with it. Tell me do you know the real reason most of them are seperated? Well i hope you do, and yes i would back Obama on it too. Oh, and another thing, those kids are living better than alot of american kids.

The concentration camps that the big orange blob has down there have over 10,000 kids in them. For no other reason than sheer cruelty. It is a lie that Obama ever did anything remotely as reprehensible as that. That they are dying while in our custody would usually draw a UN or Red Cross inspection unit.

But please tell us, since you’re a kidnapping and child abuse aficionado and you say Obama did the same thing..please link to a post of yours praising his inhumanity.

Oh that’s right, there is no such link because there was never any such actions under President Obama.

Listen, this isn't only a Trump administration problem and you know it. This has been a build up over time, and it just so happens that Trump had it land in his lap like W had 9-11 fall upon him as soon as he took office.

Then when these president's try to correct years of bullcrap ignored and/or created in the past, the opposing party sits their like a pack of sharks ready to use any actions taken against a situation to pounce, otherwise to try and blame a sitting president with it or for it.

Anyone who can't see the bullcrap going on is either mentally retarded or just evil (part of the problem), in some form or another.

Bullshit.

If you want.. you can go back to the messages in this forum from Jan 2015. There are few if any about this supposed crisis. It. Wasn’t that important then; it’s not that important now

So was Obama lying when he said there is a crisis on our border? You seem unable to answer that.

 

[jknowgood]

Fact is you were okay with it under Obama, but now outraged it happening under Trump which proves you're a hypocrite with no credibility.

Obama never housed 10,000 kids. You’re simply either lying or woefully misinformed. The kids that were stripped from their parents was done out of necessity and not as a deterrent. Again; you’re either lying or woefully misinformed.

But lets say you’re right that Obama did the same thing. I’m sure you can point to YOUR posts praising such inhumanity since you get off on that kind of stuff.

Please link to your posts praising Obama’s treatment of illegal aliens. You can do that; can’t you boy?

Dumbass the pictures were during Obama's presidency. The media put those pictures out trying to make Trump look bad, but when they found out it was during Obama's term. The quickly stopped with it. Tell me do you know the real reason most of them are seperated? Well i hope you do, and yes i would back Obama on it too. Oh, and another thing, those kids are living better than alot of american kids.

The concentration camps that the big orange blob has down there have over 10,000 kids in them. For no other reason than sheer cruelty. It is a lie that Obama ever did anything remotely as reprehensible as that. That they are dying while in our custody would usually draw a UN or Red Cross inspection unit.

But please tell us, since you’re a kidnapping and child abuse aficionado and you say Obama did the same thing..please link to a post of yours praising his inhumanity.

Oh that’s right, there is no such link because there was never any such actions under President Obama.

Listen, this isn't only a Trump administration problem and you know it. This has been a build up over time, and it just so happens that Trump had it land in his lap like W had 9-11 fall upon him as soon as he took office.

Then when these president's try to correct years of bullcrap ignored and/or created in the past, the opposing party sits their like a pack of shar
ks ready to use any actions taken against a situation to pounce, otherwise to try and blame a sitting president with it or for it.

Anyone who can't see the bullcrap going on is either mentally retarded or just evil (part of the problem), in some form or another.

The problem didn't start with the Trump Administration but the decisions made by this Administration are what have lead directly to the crisis we have now.

Only the Trump Administration made the decision to detain all asylum seekers crossing the border. Only the Trump Administration made the decision to remove children of tender years from the their parents' custody, ship them across the country, with no idea who belonged to whom, and lost track of them. Only the Trump Administration has seen not one but two children die in Border Patrol custody. Only the Trump Administration has built concentration camps on the Southern Border to detain people who have commited misdemeanor crimes, or used those crimes as an excuse for seizing people's children.

This is child abuse. This is torture. This violates the US Constitution. It violates the UN Human Rights Charter which the US helped draft, and it violates all human decency.

It is not the problem of illegal immigrants crossing the border that is causing the problem, but rather President Trump's response to it, that is problematic.

The pictures that started the whole thing, was during the Obama administration.

 

[jknowgood]

Dumbass the pictures were during Obama's presidency. The media put those pictures out trying to make Trump look bad, but when they found out it was during Obama's term. The quickly stopped with it. Tell me do you know the real reason most of them are seperated? Well i hope you do, and yes i would back Obama on it too. Oh, and another thing, those kids are living better than alot of american kids.

The concentration camps that the big orange blob has down there have over 10,000 kids in them. For no other reason than sheer cruelty. It is a lie that Obama ever did anything remotely as reprehensible as that. That they are dying while in our custody would usually draw a UN or Red Cross inspection unit.

But please tell us, since you’re a kidnapping and child abuse aficionado and you say Obama did the same thing..please link to a post of yours praising his inhumanity.

Oh that’s right, there is no such link because there was never any such actions under President Obama.

Listen, this isn't only a Trump administration problem and you know it. This has been a build up over time, and it just so happens that Trump had it land in his lap like W had 9-11 fall upon him as soon as he took office.

Then when these president's try to correct years of bullcrap ignored and/or created in the past, the opposing party sits their like a pack of shar
ks ready to use any actions taken against a situation to pounce, otherwise to try and blame a sitting president with it or for it.

Anyone who can't see the bullcrap going on is either mentally retarded or just evil (part of the problem), in some form or another.

The problem didn't start with the Trump Administration but the decisions made by this Administration are what have lead directly to the crisis we have now.

Only the Trump Administration made the decision to detain all asylum seekers crossing the border. Only the Trump Administration made the decision to remove children of tender years from the their parents' custody, ship them across the country, with no idea who belonged to whom, and lost track of them. Only the Trump Administration has seen not one but two children die in Border Patrol custody. Only the Trump Administration has built concentration camps on the Southern Border to detain people who have commited misdemeanor crimes, or used those crimes as an excuse for seizing people's children.

This is child abuse. This is torture. This violates the US Constitution. It violates the UN Human Rights Charter which the US helped draft, and it violates all human decency.

It is not the problem of illegal immigrants crossing the border that is causing the problem, but rather President Trump's response to it, that is problematic.

Are you serious ??? Good grief.

Trump isn't to blame for the entire situation, and I garantee you that if you had the job Trump had, that you would struggle to straighten up years and years of bullcrap that the past government officials had created and/or ignored.

The child abuse is this dragging of children across dangerous lands in order to enter them criminally into another land. Child trafficking is a major problem, child exploitation is another major problem, and the use of children as human political shields is just as low and/or sick as it gets.

Stripping kids away from their parents as a deterrent is far sicker than involving them in a political debate; your may remember you guys did this with Elian.

You talking about the kid the Clinton administration ripped from his relatives arms with assault rifles?

 

[jknowgood]

Oct, 2013
Undocumented parents are deported while their children struggle - CNN
The number of immigrant children held in custody has surged under Trump's crackdown–but Obama held many more

Now, would you rather a child stay with people that could be criminals, human traffickers, and not their parents, instead of first investigated as to whether they are indeed family?
If so, now that is cruel-

From October 2017 to this February, DHS saw a staggering 315% increase in illegal aliens using children to pose as family units to gain entry into the country, compared to the same time frame the previous year

The concentration camps that the big orange blob has down there have over 10,000 kids in them. For no other reason than sheer cruelty. It is a lie that Obama ever did anything remotely as reprehensible as that. That they are dying while in our custody would usually draw a UN or Red Cross inspection unit.

But please tell us, since you’re a kidnapping and child abuse aficionado and you say Obama did the same thing..please link to a post of yours praising his inhumanity.

Oh that’s right, there is no such link because there was never any such actions under President Obama.

Listen, this isn't only a Trump administration problem and you know it. This has been a build up over time, and it just so happens that Trump had it land in his lap like W had 9-11 fall upon him as soon as he took office.

Then when these president's try to correct years of bullcrap ignored and/or created in the past, the opposing party sits their like a pack of shar
ks ready to use any actions taken against a situation to pounce, otherwise to try and blame a sitting president with it or for it.

Anyone who can't see the bullcrap going on is either mentally retarded or just evil (part of the problem), in some form or another.

The problem didn't start with the Trump Administration but the decisions made by this Administration are what have lead directly to the crisis we have now.

Only the Trump Administration made the decision to detain all asylum seekers crossing the border. Only the Trump Administration made the decision to remove children of tender years from the their parents' custody, ship them across the country, with no idea who belonged to whom, and lost track of them. Only the Trump Administration has seen not one but two children die in Border Patrol custody. Only the Trump Administration has built concentration camps on the Southern Border to detain people who have commited misdemeanor crimes, or used those crimes as an excuse for seizing people's children.

This is child abuse. This is torture. This violates the US Constitution. It violates the UN Human Rights Charter which the US helped draft, and it violates all human decency.

It is not the problem of illegal immigrants crossing the border that is causing the problem, but rather President Trump's response to it, that is problematic.

Are you serious ??? Good grief.

Trump isn't to blame for the entire situation, and I garantee you that if you had the job Trump had, that you would struggle to straighten up years and years of bullcrap that the past government officials had created and/or ignored.

The child abuse is this dragging of children across dangerous lands in order to enter them criminally into another land. Child trafficking is a major problem, child exploitation is another major problem, and the use of children as human political shields is just as low and/or sick as it gets.

Stripping kids away from their parents as a deterrent is far sicker than involving them in a political debate; your may remember you guys did this with Elian.

Yes they would rather children to be released with child molesters, so they can try to make Trump look bad.

 

[depotoo]

They are so blind, lost in their own world full of venom and hate, they couldn’t crawl out if someone gave them a helping hand.

Oct, 2013
Undocumented parents are deported while their children struggle - CNN
The number of immigrant children held in custody has surged under Trump's crackdown–but Obama held many more

Now, would you rather a child stay with people that could be criminals, human traffickers, and not their parents, instead of first investigated as to whether they are indeed family?
If so, now that is cruel-

From October 2017 to this February, DHS saw a staggering 315% increase in illegal aliens using children to pose as family units to gain entry into the country, compared to the same time frame the previous year

Listen, this isn't only a Trump administration problem and you know it. This has been a build up over time, and it just so happens that Trump had it land in his lap like W had 9-11 fall upon him as soon as he took office.

Then when these president's try to correct years of bullcrap ignored and/or created in the past, the opposing party sits their like a pack of shar
ks ready to use any actions taken against a situation to pounce, otherwise to try and blame a sitting president with it or for it.

Anyone who can't see the bullcrap going on is either mentally retarded or just evil (part of the problem), in some form or another.

The problem didn't start with the Trump Administration but the decisions made by this Administration are what have lead directly to the crisis we have now.

Only the Trump Administration made the decision to detain all asylum seekers crossing the border. Only the Trump Administration made the decision to remove children of tender years from the their parents' custody, ship them across the country, with no idea who belonged to whom, and lost track of them. Only the Trump Administration has seen not one but two children die in Border Patrol custody. Only the Trump Administration has built concentration camps on the Southern Border to detain people who have commited misdemeanor crimes, or used those crimes as an excuse for seizing people's children.

This is child abuse. This is torture. This violates the US Constitution. It violates the UN Human Rights Charter which the US helped draft, and it violates all human decency.

It is not the problem of illegal immigrants crossing the border that is causing the problem, but rather President Trump's response to it, that is problematic.

Are you serious ??? Good grief.

Trump isn't to blame for the entire situation, and I garantee you that if you had the job Trump had, that you would struggle to straighten up years and years of bullcrap that the past government officials had created and/or ignored.

The child abuse is this dragging of children across dangerous lands in order to enter them criminally into another land. Child trafficking is a major problem, child exploitation is another major problem, and the use of children as human political shields is just as low and/or sick as it gets.

Stripping kids away from their parents as a deterrent is far sicker than involving them in a political debate; your may remember you guys did this with Elian.

Yes they would rather children to be released with child molesters, so they can try to make Trump look bad.

 

[toobfreak]

legilsation? majically?

If I have to guess what you were trying to say here, I'm sure the thoughts behind the statements weren't real well thought out either.

 

[Dragonlady]

They are so blind, lost in their own world full of venom and hate, they couldn’t crawl out if someone gave them a helping hand.

Oct, 2013
Undocumented parents are deported while their children struggle - CNN
The number of immigrant children held in custody has surged under Trump's crackdown–but Obama held many more

Now, would you rather a child stay with people that could be criminals, human traffickers, and not their parents, instead of first investigated as to whether they are indeed family?
If so, now that is cruel-

From October 2017 to this February, DHS saw a staggering 315% increase in illegal aliens using children to pose as family units to gain entry into the country, compared to the same time frame the previous year

The problem didn't start with the Trump Administration but the decisions made by this Administration are what have lead directly to the crisis we have now.

Only the Trump Administration made the decision to detain all asylum seekers crossing the border. Only the Trump Administration made the decision to remove children of tender years from the their parents' custody, ship them across the country, with no idea who belonged to whom, and lost track of them. Only the Trump Administration has seen not one but two children die in Border Patrol custody. Only the Trump Administration has built concentration camps on the Southern Border to detain people who have commited misdemeanor crimes, or used those crimes as an excuse for seizing people's children.

This is child abuse. This is torture. This violates the US Constitution. It violates the UN Human Rights Charter which the US helped draft, and it violates all human decency.

It is not the problem of illegal immigrants crossing the border that is causing the problem, but rather President Trump's response to it, that is problematic.

Are you serious ??? Good grief.

Trump isn't to blame for the entire situation, and I garantee you that if you had the job Trump had, that you would struggle to straighten up years and years of bullcrap that the past government officials had created and/or ignored.

The child abuse is this dragging of children across dangerous lands in order to enter them criminally into another land. Child trafficking is a major problem, child exploitation is another major problem, and the use of children as human political shields is just as low and/or sick as it gets.

Stripping kids away from their parents as a deterrent is far sicker than involving them in a political debate; your may remember you guys did this with Elian.

Yes they would rather children to be released with child molesters, so they can try to make Trump look bad.

The Trump Administration is doing DNA tests on children and STILL removing them from their parents. One asylum seeker said they accused her of smuggling a child that was not her daughter, and did the swabs. The test came back that the child was in fact her daughter, and they STILL separated the parent from the child - and this was a woman at an airport!

 

[dblack]

Actually you can when the claim was made about a crisis.
Those are the two choices that are not a crisis. Those two groups don't beieve it's a crisis when asked.

There is no way to spin that.

/—-/ That’s assuming everyone asked has the education and knowledge of current event s to distinguish between crisis and problem. Remember Appolo “13 Houston we have a crisis” —- or was it a problem?

/—-/ That’s assuming everyone asked has the education and knowledge of current event s to distinguish between crisis and problem. Remember Appolo “13 Houston we have a crisis” —- or was it a problem?

Well, obviously you have that problem.

Houston.........49% say it isn't a crisis.

/----/ Thank you for completely missing my point. Keep up the good work.

Your point was dumb. If you can't readily see the difference in meaning between two different words, then you're truly dumb.
I told you you you couldn't spin it.

/——/ You don’t know what those in the poll thought or understood. What the poll did prove beyond a doubt is only 12% thought there was no problem or crisis.

And only 42% thought it was a crisis. Which means Trump has no business declaring an emergency. Most people think it isn't.

 

[candycorn]

They are so blind, lost in their own world full of venom and hate, they couldn’t crawl out if someone gave them a helping hand.

Oct, 2013
Undocumented parents are deported while their children struggle - CNN
The number of immigrant children held in custody has surged under Trump's crackdown–but Obama held many more

Now, would you rather a child stay with people that could be criminals, human traffickers, and not their parents, instead of first investigated as to whether they are indeed family?
If so, now that is cruel-

From October 2017 to this February, DHS saw a staggering 315% increase in illegal aliens using children to pose as family units to gain entry into the country, compared to the same time frame the previous year

The problem didn't start with the Trump Administration but the decisions made by this Administration are what have lead directly to the crisis we have now.

Only the Trump Administration made the decision to detain all asylum seekers crossing the border. Only the Trump Administration made the decision to remove children of tender years from the their parents' custody, ship them across the country, with no idea who belonged to whom, and lost track of them. Only the Trump Administration has seen not one but two children die in Border Patrol custody. Only the Trump Administration has built concentration camps on the Southern Border to detain people who have commited misdemeanor crimes, or used those crimes as an excuse for seizing people's children.

This is child abuse. This is torture. This violates the US Constitution. It violates the UN Human Rights Charter which the US helped draft, and it violates all human decency.

It is not the problem of illegal immigrants crossing the border that is causing the problem, but rather President Trump's response to it, that is problematic.

Are you serious ??? Good grief.

Trump isn't to blame for the entire situation, and I garantee you that if you had the job Trump had, that you would struggle to straighten up years and years of bullcrap that the past government officials had created and/or ignored.

The child abuse is this dragging of children across dangerous lands in order to enter them criminally into another land. Child trafficking is a major problem, child exploitation is another major problem, and the use of children as human political shields is just as low and/or sick as it gets.

Stripping kids away from their parents as a deterrent is far sicker than involving them in a political debate; your may remember you guys did this with Elian.

Yes they would rather children to be released with child molesters, so they can try to make Trump look bad.

Enough crawled out of bed in November to flip 40+ House seats and 7 governor mansions.

 

[candycorn]

Obama never housed 10,000 kids. You’re simply either lying or woefully misinformed. The kids that were stripped from their parents was done out of necessity and not as a deterrent. Again; you’re either lying or woefully misinformed.

But lets say you’re right that Obama did the same thing. I’m sure you can point to YOUR posts praising such inhumanity since you get off on that kind of stuff.

Please link to your posts praising Obama’s treatment of illegal aliens. You can do that; can’t you boy?

Dumbass the pictures were during Obama's presidency. The media put those pictures out trying to make Trump look bad, but when they found out it was during Obama's term. The quickly stopped with it. Tell me do you know the real reason most of them are seperated? Well i hope you do, and yes i would back Obama on it too. Oh, and another thing, those kids are living better than alot of american kids.

The concentration camps that the big orange blob has down there have over 10,000 kids in them. For no other reason than sheer cruelty. It is a lie that Obama ever did anything remotely as reprehensible as that. That they are dying while in our custody would usually draw a UN or Red Cross inspection unit.

But please tell us, since you’re a kidnapping and child abuse aficionado and you say Obama did the same thing..please link to a post of yours praising his inhumanity.

Oh that’s right, there is no such link because there was never any such actions under President Obama.

Listen, this isn't only a Trump administration problem and you know it. This has been a build up over time, and it just so happens that Trump had it land in his lap like W had 9-11 fall upon him as soon as he took office.

Then when these president's try to correct years of bullcrap ignored and/or created in the past, the opposing party sits their like a pack of sharks ready to use any actions taken against a situation to pounce, otherwise to try and blame a sitting president with it or for it.

Anyone who can't see the bullcrap going on is either mentally retarded or just evil (part of the problem), in some form or another.

Bullshit.

If you want.. you can go back to the messages in this forum from Jan 2015. There are few if any about this supposed crisis. It. Wasn’t that important then; it’s not that important now

So was Obama lying when he said there is a crisis on our border? You seem unable to answer that.

Except for the 3 times I did answer it.

 

[candycorn]

The concentration camps that the big orange blob has down there have over 10,000 kids in them. For no other reason than sheer cruelty. It is a lie that Obama ever did anything remotely as reprehensible as that. That they are dying while in our custody would usually draw a UN or Red Cross inspection unit.

But please tell us, since you’re a kidnapping and child abuse aficionado and you say Obama did the same thing..please link to a post of yours praising his inhumanity.

Oh that’s right, there is no such link because there was never any such actions under President Obama.

Listen, this isn't only a Trump administration problem and you know it. This has been a build up over time, and it just so happens that Trump had it land in his lap like W had 9-11 fall upon him as soon as he took office.

Then when these president's try to correct years of bullcrap ignored and/or created in the past, the opposing party sits their like a pack of shar
ks ready to use any actions taken against a situation to pounce, otherwise to try and blame a sitting president with it or for it.

Anyone who can't see the bullcrap going on is either mentally retarded or just evil (part of the problem), in some form or another.

The problem didn't start with the Trump Administration but the decisions made by this Administration are what have lead directly to the crisis we have now.

Only the Trump Administration made the decision to detain all asylum seekers crossing the border. Only the Trump Administration made the decision to remove children of tender years from the their parents' custody, ship them across the country, with no idea who belonged to whom, and lost track of them. Only the Trump Administration has seen not one but two children die in Border Patrol custody. Only the Trump Administration has built concentration camps on the Southern Border to detain people who have commited misdemeanor crimes, or used those crimes as an excuse for seizing people's children.

This is child abuse. This is torture. This violates the US Constitution. It violates the UN Human Rights Charter which the US helped draft, and it violates all human decency.

It is not the problem of illegal immigrants crossing the border that is causing the problem, but rather President Trump's response to it, that is problematic.

Are you serious ??? Good grief.

Trump isn't to blame for the entire situation, and I garantee you that if you had the job Trump had, that you would struggle to straighten up years and years of bullcrap that the past government officials had created and/or ignored.

The child abuse is this dragging of children across dangerous lands in order to enter them criminally into another land. Child trafficking is a major problem, child exploitation is another major problem, and the use of children as human political shields is just as low and/or sick as it gets.

Stripping kids away from their parents as a deterrent is far sicker than involving them in a political debate; your may remember you guys did this with Elian.

You talking about the kid the Clinton administration ripped from his relatives arms with assault rifles?

<sarcasm> It was a deterrent to keep Cubans from coming here. LOL

 

[The Original Tree]

70% of Democrats think we have a crisis or problem at The Southern Border.

 

[dblack]

70% of Democrats think we have a crisis or problem at The Southern Border.

How could anyone not think there's a problem? Even if it's just the Trumpsters whining, it's still a "problem". The important question is whether it's a crisis - whether it warrants the President invoking emergency powers. There's obviously no agreement on that. According to the poll, 42% think it is a crisis, 47% don't.

 

[depotoo]

Yep, you did, but-

Republicans Have Full Control of 23 States, Democrats 14

Submitted by jkartch on Thursday, November 8th, 2018, 12,14 PM
Following Tuesday's election:

-Republicans have full control of the legislative and executive branch in 23 states.
-Democrats have full control of the legislative and executive branch in 14 states.

Population of the 23 fully R-controlled states: 136,806,725
Population of the 14 fully D-controlled states: 111,808,708

-Republicans have full control of the legislative branch in 31 states.
-Democrats have full control of the legislative branch in 18 states.

Population of the 31 fully R-controlled states: 192,761,444
Population of the 18 fully D-controlled states: 126,687,156

They are so blind, lost in their own world full of venom and hate, they couldn’t crawl out if someone gave them a helping hand.

Oct, 2013
Undocumented parents are deported while their children struggle - CNN
The number of immigrant children held in custody has surged under Trump's crackdown–but Obama held many more

Now, would you rather a child stay with people that could be criminals, human traffickers, and not their parents, instead of first investigated as to whether they are indeed family?
If so, now that is cruel-

From October 2017 to this February, DHS saw a staggering 315% increase in illegal aliens using children to pose as family units to gain entry into the country, compared to the same time frame the previous year

Are you serious ??? Good grief.

Trump isn't to blame for the entire situation, and I garantee you that if you had the job Trump had, that you would struggle to straighten up years and years of bullcrap that the past government officials had created and/or ignored.

The child abuse is this dragging of children across dangerous lands in order to enter them criminally into another land. Child trafficking is a major problem, child exploitation is another major problem, and the use of children as human political shields is just as low and/or sick as it gets.

Stripping kids away from their parents as a deterrent is far sicker than involving them in a political debate; your may remember you guys did this with Elian.

Yes they would rather children to be released with child molesters, so they can try to make Trump look bad.

Enough crawled out of bed in November to flip 40+ House seats and 7 governor mansions.

 

[bendog]

Children are dying

 

[beagle9]

No. Why don't you tell us, dumbass. The only fact here is that only 12% of the nation don't think the illegals and southern border are between a moderate to HUGE problem. See what I mean? Lo suficientemente claro, idiota?

The question is whether you think the border situation is a true crisis, and thus a valid justification for invoking emergency powers. Or if you think it's a problem, but not justification for emergency powers. Or not even a problem. Only 42% said it was a crisis.

Emergency powers should be reserved for situations where there is broad agreement that the usual rules should be suspended - and never invoked to resolve a political dispute.

The kids and the child abuse "due to criminal illegal acts" committed by illegals crossing the border "illegally", prove it's a major crisis.... Your move !

 

[easyt65]

Foreign Guest works are not illegals. Not the same thing. FAIL = you.

WTF good is any wall, when they're INVITED in as cheap labor to steal our jobs, live in squallor, and collect welfare pumpin' out one 'el bebe' after another ?

FAIL is the inability to see the grand diversion from the fact that we're going to be up to our eyeballs in immigrants wall or no wall

~S~

Why declare you are for securing the border, protecting Americans, and enforcing our laws she you are illegally operating criminal federal law-violating Sanctuary Cities that provide safe haven and protection from our laws to human traffickers, thieves, raoists, gangs, pedophiles, and cop killers?

The Democrats are not even trying to hide or defend what they are doing.