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Wrong. You're perfectly willing to let them die if you can't force the rest of us to pay for their healthcare.
You Pay for healthcare for people who could not buy it themselves. Your alternative is to let them die
The point is, being unwilling to force others to pay isn't the same thing as being willing to let people die. Nothing is stopping you and I (and anyone else who wants to) from helping people in need. What you're arguing for is ganging up on those who don't and forcing them to help.
EVERYONE KNOWS there was ONLY ONE reason for liberating Iraq was WMDs.. RIGHT?
Since there were none found then the Liberation was not necessary.
Therefore we need ONE simple reason for Obamacare being passed?
What major reason did Obamacare PASS by ONLY 6 votes?
Those Congress members passed Obamacare primarily and for what major reason?
Please tell me what single major reason was Obamacare passed?
Is that really what you think this is? Healthcare?
It's not. It's insurance. ACA dictates that we spend our entire lives making payments to the insurance industry - or be punished for our 'insolence'. How in the hell did we let them do that???
If it was up to me we wouldn't have insurance companies. We would cut out the greedy middle man and go directly to universal healthcare.
But given that we have shackled ourselves to the Health Insurance monster, if you don't have insurance, you don't have healthcare
The days of going to your family doctor and paying with a chicken are long gone. You don't have the money, you are out of luck
That is so painful to read, because it is so, so wrong. Health care is not the same thing as health insurance. Buying into that fallacy is exactly what painted us into this corner in the first place. We need less insurance, not more - only for the catastrophes we could never hope to pay for on our own. We CAN and should cut out the middle man - buy simply minimizing our use of insurance. Or at least we could have, before ACA. Now that opportunity is gone. ACA cements the insurance industry's dominant position in law. Congress sold us out.
^^Preach on, brother^^
I had to get an MRI a few years back. The hospital charged me $10,000. More recently, I needed stitches -- $2000. Luckily, I was able to get approved for charity care, so both bills were covered 100%; but that's not a solution to our nation's health care problems. I am grateful for the charity, but we need a permanent solution.
If it was up to me we wouldn't have insurance companies. We would cut out the greedy middle man and go directly to universal healthcare.
But given that we have shackled ourselves to the Health Insurance monster, if you don't have insurance, you don't have healthcare
The days of going to your family doctor and paying with a chicken are long gone. You don't have the money, you are out of luck
That is so painful to read, because it is so, so wrong. Health care is not the same thing as health insurance. Buying into that fallacy is exactly what painted us into this corner in the first place. We need less insurance, not more - only for the catastrophes we could never hope to pay for on our own. We CAN and should cut out the middle man - buy simply minimizing our use of insurance. Or at least we could have, before ACA. Now that opportunity is gone. ACA cements the insurance industry's dominant position in law. Congress sold us out.
Polyanna.......Polyanna
Which world do you live in? A world where a doctors visit costs $25 and an operation costs $500?
Why are Republicans the only ones in the world who want to bankrupt you for getting sick?
It wouldn't be so bad, but this is the same party trying to hold down worker benefits and pay. Work harder, work longer, make sacrifices, do with less and if you get sick or injured be prepared to lose everything you have
Republican utopia
EVERYONE KNOWS there was ONLY ONE reason for liberating Iraq was WMDs.. RIGHT?
?
to get more people access to healthcare
That is so painful to read, because it is so, so wrong. Health care is not the same thing as health insurance. Buying into that fallacy is exactly what painted us into this corner in the first place. We need less insurance, not more - only for the catastrophes we could never hope to pay for on our own. We CAN and should cut out the middle man - buy simply minimizing our use of insurance. Or at least we could have, before ACA. Now that opportunity is gone. ACA cements the insurance industry's dominant position in law. Congress sold us out.
Polyanna.......Polyanna
Which world do you live in? A world where a doctors visit costs $25 and an operation costs $500?
I'm living in a world of insanity. A world where people of average income, living in the richest country in the world, accept out of control health care prices as "the way things are". And instead of asking why, and doing something about it, they continue down the same path - requiring everyone to indulge the very same habits that created the situation to begin with.
Think about what you're saying. Does it make any sense that basic health care is so expensive? Have you ever really look into why that's the case? Have you thought about what would happen in any other industry if we implemented the same policies we've loaded on health care?
One of the most obvious drivers of health care inflation is that most of us have no reason at all to want cheap health care. We've created a health care market that has two kinds of consumers. Those with health insurance and virtually no incentive to look for cheap health care, and those without who, unless they are very rich, can't afford health care at all.
Why are Republicans the only ones in the world who want to bankrupt you for getting sick?
Stow it. You know I'm not a Republican and you know I don't want to bankrupt anyone. Except perhaps for the bastards in congress creating this shit.
EVERYONE KNOWS there was ONLY ONE reason for liberating Iraq was WMDs.. RIGHT?
Since there were none found then the Liberation was not necessary.
Therefore we need ONE simple reason for Obamacare being passed?
What major reason did Obamacare PASS by ONLY 6 votes?
Those Congress members passed Obamacare primarily and for what major reason?
Please tell me what single major reason was Obamacare passed?
This might be a bit premature, but I'm going to nominate this thread as the dumbest fucking thread of the year. Congrats, you're a moron
If we only stop paying, all those nasty medical bills will just go away. Sorry Doctor but I refuse to pay $500 for that X-ray. Here is $20 now go away
It wouldn't be so bad, but this is the same party trying to hold down worker benefits and pay. Work harder, work longer, make sacrifices, do with less and if you get sick or injured be prepared to lose everything you have
Republican utopia
Hmmm... The Republicans came up with the core of ACA to begin with. Sure you don't want to rethink that line? If anything is a "Republican Utopia", it's the corporatist nightmare of ACA.
It wouldn't be so bad, but this is the same party trying to hold down worker benefits and pay. Work harder, work longer, make sacrifices, do with less and if you get sick or injured be prepared to lose everything you have
Republican utopia
Hmmm... The Republicans came up with the core of ACA to begin with. Sure you don't want to rethink that line? If anything is a "Republican Utopia", it's the corporatist nightmare of ACA.
They did?
Guess that is why none of them would vote for it.
EVERYONE KNOWS there was ONLY ONE reason for liberating Iraq was WMDs.. RIGHT?
Since there were none found then the Liberation was not necessary.
Therefore we need ONE simple reason for Obamacare being passed?
What major reason did Obamacare PASS by ONLY 6 votes?
Those Congress members passed Obamacare primarily and for what major reason?
Please tell me what single major reason was Obamacare passed?
This might be a bit premature, but I'm going to nominate this thread as the dumbest fucking thread of the year. Congrats, you're a moron
Well thanks!
We GOP controlled Congress 1994 to 2006 and failed to produce health reform.
SCOTUS has ruled ACA constitutional.
We have to deal with that fact.
^^Preach on, brother^^
I had to get an MRI a few years back. The hospital charged me $10,000. More recently, I needed stitches -- $2000. Luckily, I was able to get approved for charity care, so both bills were covered 100%; but that's not a solution to our nation's health care problems. I am grateful for the charity, but we need a permanent solution.
EVERYONE KNOWS there was ONLY ONE reason for liberating Iraq was WMDs.. RIGHT?
Since there were none found then the Liberation was not necessary.
Therefore we need ONE simple reason for Obamacare being passed?
What major reason did Obamacare PASS by ONLY 6 votes?
Those Congress members passed Obamacare primarily and for what major reason?
Please tell me what single major reason was Obamacare passed?
Purple. Because aliens don't wear hats.
We GOP controlled Congress 1994 to 2006 and failed to produce health reform.
SCOTUS has ruled ACA constitutional.
We have to deal with that fact.
Yep. We need to remove all the sellouts who voted for it, repeal it, and pass an amendment that sets sane limits on the taxation power so they don't try this kind of shit again.
