The big lie, the gospel of democracy

[Doc7505]

Then why, when one of the constituents of the republic, Maine, follows its own laws, conservatives howl?

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Somebody has to call the balls and strikes. What Colorado, Maine and Oregon smacks of Marxism and Nazism.

 

[cnm]

We see those in media, the government, and academia, continually refer to the United States as a democracy. Trouble is, it is not a democracy, it is a Republic.

Nobody argues that the US is not a Republic dimwit, it is not a pure democracy.

 

[konradv]

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Somebody has to call the balls and strikes. What Colorado, Maine and Oregon smacks of Marxism and Nazism.

Your post smacks of someone who doesn’t have a decent argument, so has to call out the boogeymen.

 

[Crepitus]

Nobody argues that the US is not a Republic dimwit, it is not a pure democracy.

Try again.

You just said it's not a Democracy.. It's the first line in the OP.

Did you forget already?

 

[konradv]

You just said it's not a Democracy.. It's the first line in the OP.

Did you forget already?

They’re walking back the ‘republic’ thing a bit right now, since CO & ME got feisty!

 

[Crepitus]

They’re walking back the ‘republic’ thing a bit right now, since CO & ME got feisty!

Ah, I didn't realize.

Thank you.

 

[Dragonlady]

We defeated the British twice and we'll destroy Democrats eventually.

The difference being that Great Britain is a foreign country, and you're talking about another Civil War. Tell how the last Civil War turned out for the people who started it.

Tell us how the nation benefitted from the hate and rancour which the South still carries towards the North, has improved life in the USA for all of its citizens.

Now tell us why all of your posts are about hating your fellow Americans and wanting to see them die.

 

[konradv]

We defeated the British twice and we'll destroy Democrats eventually.

The second time was a draw.

 

[BluesLegend]

The difference being that Great Britain is a foreign country, and you're talking about another Civil War.

Shut up Canada or we'll stomp the shit out of your wannabe country.

 

[BluesLegend]

The second time was a draw.

LMAO sure it was.

 

[Foxfyre]

We see those in media, the government, and academia, continually refer to the United States as a democracy. Trouble is, it is not a democracy, it is a Republic. But when you point this out to people, they continue to refer to the US as a democracy anyway despite agreeing with your assertion, saying there are democratic aspects to the Republic, so who cares about saying the US is a democracy? Why are such inaccurate mythical truths important?

It is important because the Founding Fathers were horrified of a pure democracy, but why? It is because they were horrified of mob rule, but even if you disagree, you then have to answer the question, why did they set up a Republic instead? You had a Senate that was not directly elected by the people as states legislatures decided who would sit on the Senate to help defend state rights. You had an Electoral college the prevented the most populace states from deciding who won every Presidential election, you had the states running pretty much everything as the Federal government served as a referee between the states, etc.

But all this has changed or is changing. Thanks to the Left, those on the Senate are now elected directly by the people after the Constitution was amended by them, and now the Federal government runs everything from health care to education and pretty much everything else instead of the states, and the Electoral college is attacked daily as the last standout against a purer direct democracy.

So, what is so bad about democracy and mob rule? Is it not power to the people, and does the Left always champion democracy? Read on to better understand.

When democrats were trying to pass Obamacare, they barely had enough votes to pass it. But then Senator Kennedy revealed he had brain cancer and needed his vote. So, the democrats scrambled to change the laws so that there would not be a runoff election to replace him, fearing the replacement would nix the Obamacare vote. However, for whatever reason, they failed to change the laws in time, and the people of Massachusetts elected a Republican for the first time in decades who ran on stopping Obamacare.

You would think that the Blue state of Massachusetts would be all for Obamacare, but they had Romneycare and liked it and did not want the inferior Obamacare as they elected Scott Brown to stop it. However, the scheming democrats were not done thwarting democracy as they used Reconciliation to pass it which bypassed the vote from Scott Brown, and the rest is history.

And today, as we see poll numbers showing Biden will lose, Blue states are beginning to try and take Trump off the ballot, once again showing their disdain for democracy which they purport to be the sole defends of.

In reality, the reason democrats lean toward a pure democracy is because they control the media and academia, and thus can steer support through propaganda. Look at any academic study and you will see that the Left dominates both the media and academia, the only two sources people get their information from. But that is never enough on some issues, such as the public not supporting such things as partial birth abortion. If you put to a vote partial birth abortion, democrats lose in almost every case in every state. So, what did the Left do? They let Roe vs Wade disappear that did restrict such things as partial birth abortion. That then led to states deciding laws on abortion. The Left then entered Red States like Ohio where they proposed constitutional amendments to allow abortion once again, only unrestricted by the government, allowing the patient and doctor to decide what is best. Again, if left to a direct vote, partial birth abortion never passes, but if obscured in legal wording with the premise of letting women have access to abortion again, it passes.

This is why in Red states you will never see a state constitutional amendment get voted on regarding parental rights, or stopping partial birth abortions, or supporting gun ownership. Virtually every Constitutional amendment proposed people can vote on that will pass, is a Left-wing agenda.

In short, democrats are experts in using democracy as a tool for their tyranny, and any democracy that dare stand in their way will get crushed.

It is true. It is a democracy in that the people vote for those who will represent them. It is a republic because it is those elected representatives who are supposed to have the authority to govern.

The electoral college was established to prevent a complete tyranny of a majority in who would be President. The less populated states have less say than the larger populated states but they have some say. Do away with the electoral college and they have no say.

The fact that the various states were given great autonomy by the U.S. Constitution--at least they were intended to have great autonomy--was pure genius. Each would be its own laboratory of trial and error to find out what was profitable for the people and what was not. States could learn from each other but a failure or mistake made by one would affect only that one.

Now with more and more power being shifted to the federal government, a rogue government/DOJ as we have now can and does do whatever it wants to anybody. And the mistakes affect us all.

We are in grave danger of losing our democratic republic for that reason. What happened on J6 endangered it not at all.

 

[Dragonlady]

Shut up Canada or we'll stomp the shit out of your wannabe country.

Wannabe country???? You're truly butthurt here. You couldn't even "stomp the shit" out of the most backward fighting force on earth - the Taliban.

Canada is better than the USA in every way. Cheaper, cleaner, safer, and politically stable. Canadians would never re-elect a clown like Trump. We ENDED the Progressive Conservative Party of Brian Mulroney because of the Free Trade Deal.

Canada doesn't put up with asshole leaders like Trump who lie cheat and steal from the people who elected them. Trump is proven to be corrupt and on the take, and you still want him in office.

Fool you once and you're loyal to him through all 37,000 lies.

 

[BluesLegend]

Wannabe country???? Canada is better than the USA in every way.

Which is why you have to come to the USA for a Politics forum...oh wait